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legendary
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things you own end up owning you
you turned to a delusional cultist.... but hey who knows, maybe I am the delusional one here, we will see about it later.
But when the retardo troll crowd tries to spin another major investment by the legacy finance world as further signs that crypto is doomed... well, it's getting a bit transparent.

This is what I am trying to say, Bitcoin is fine for now, in fact it is doing better than anytime before...but Bitcoin price is really not OK,  the soonest this bubble burst the faster things can develop and normal growth can start again ( and we can get rid of these fucking trolls, both sides bears and bulls).... for now it is just painful, slow and boring bear market.


Guess we're in agreement then mostly. There are some signs that the (2013) 2014 (2015) bear market is, if not ending, getting closer to an end, but your guess is as good as mine if we already reached bottom or not.

Here's what I think:

I don't buy the bullshit of extending a line running through historic price on a log chart arriving at ONE MILLION DOLLAR per bitcoin by the end of next Thursday, but I also don't buy the bearshit of declaring Bitcoin dead and failed when VC money pours in like it did this year.

The latter doesn't mean we're going to rally now, not even this year or the next necessarily, but I do take it as another milestone for crypto becoming entrenched as a part of human society.

Which sounds good enough for me. The rest is a matter of your investment time horizon, your risk profile, and your ability to control risk.

Yes, venture capitalists look at things mid-long term, beside they are leveraging their risk by investing in companies that will build the Bitcoin ecosystem and push growth, this is what Bitcoin really need and I am happy that money is going to the right place, these companies will eventually exist even if Bitcoin fails...some think that VC money should be spent on buying bitcoins which is just outrageous, because it will just enrich the "get rich kids" instead of doing any good to the ecosystem and the real community around it.

Most of us here Acknowledge the potential of cryptocurrencies, I choose the objective way to look at things which somehow offend most of people here...I understand, these guys have hopeless lives, they didn't achieve or accomplish anything so they hope and wish and rely on the success of Bitcoin, and by success I mean the price skyrocketing, but the truth is that Bitcoin is already going mainstream and succeeding... guess what, even if Bitcoin fails it wont effect my life a single bit, now try ask your self the same question, if you will be effected a single bit then maybe it is time for your to rethink your position.
full member
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I still read your main account, you put quite a bit of effort into that one, but your alts go on ignore Smiley

you turned to a delusional cultist.... but hey who knows, maybe I am the delusional one here, we will see about it later.


Aww, second time you accuse me of becoming a "cultist". You'll note that there are no "$10k coin in summer" predictions coming from me.

But when the retardo troll crowd tries to spin another major investment by the legacy finance world as further signs that crypto is doomed... well, it's getting a bit transparent.

This is what I am trying to say, Bitcoin is fine for now, in fact it is doing better than anytime before...but Bitcoin price is really not OK,  the soonest this bubble burst the faster things can develop and normal growth can start again ( and we can get rid of these fucking trolls, both sides bears and bulls).... for now it is just painful, slow and boring bear market.

I agree, the sooner this bear bubble bursts the better.

As long as there is mining to prove bitcoin's work and the blockchain. There will be a 'bear bubble', I think there is a total of 3250 btc that needs to be sold daily for miners to return their electricity pay.

oh not again with this no-argument plz. big miners dont dump. or else they dump OTC. not on stamp or finex.

I'm sure some do, is there a lot of liquidity on OTC?

The OTC buyers must sell to someone. What if they dump on stamp or finex?

OTC buyers are usually the whales who manage to acquire thousands of BTC. Perhaps they hold.

Like the US marshals auction winners?

Well, they bought the majority from the auction itself but perhaps they continue to amass bitcoins through OTC, discretely.
sr. member
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I still read your main account, you put quite a bit of effort into that one, but your alts go on ignore Smiley

you turned to a delusional cultist.... but hey who knows, maybe I am the delusional one here, we will see about it later.


Aww, second time you accuse me of becoming a "cultist". You'll note that there are no "$10k coin in summer" predictions coming from me.

But when the retardo troll crowd tries to spin another major investment by the legacy finance world as further signs that crypto is doomed... well, it's getting a bit transparent.

This is what I am trying to say, Bitcoin is fine for now, in fact it is doing better than anytime before...but Bitcoin price is really not OK,  the soonest this bubble burst the faster things can develop and normal growth can start again ( and we can get rid of these fucking trolls, both sides bears and bulls).... for now it is just painful, slow and boring bear market.

I agree, the sooner this bear bubble bursts the better.

As long as there is mining to prove bitcoin's work and the blockchain. There will be a 'bear bubble', I think there is a total of 3250 btc that needs to be sold daily for miners to return their electricity pay.

oh not again with this no-argument plz. big miners dont dump. or else they dump OTC. not on stamp or finex.

I'm sure some do, is there a lot of liquidity on OTC?

The OTC buyers must sell to someone. What if they dump on stamp or finex?

OTC buyers are usually the whales who manage to acquire thousands of BTC. Perhaps they hold.

Like the US marshals auction winners?
hero member
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No that we know Bitfinex is doing insider trading this article goes well along.

http://www.nasdaq.com/article/recent-big-bitcoin-drop-looks-like-a-squeeze-that-could-be-a-huge-problem-cm434773

News flash, every market is insider traded. What do you think the marker makers on the floor of trading pits do? They can see the big orders coming in (they must make a market with these), and they see where all the stops are.
full member
Activity: 215
Merit: 100
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I still read your main account, you put quite a bit of effort into that one, but your alts go on ignore Smiley

you turned to a delusional cultist.... but hey who knows, maybe I am the delusional one here, we will see about it later.


Aww, second time you accuse me of becoming a "cultist". You'll note that there are no "$10k coin in summer" predictions coming from me.

But when the retardo troll crowd tries to spin another major investment by the legacy finance world as further signs that crypto is doomed... well, it's getting a bit transparent.

This is what I am trying to say, Bitcoin is fine for now, in fact it is doing better than anytime before...but Bitcoin price is really not OK,  the soonest this bubble burst the faster things can develop and normal growth can start again ( and we can get rid of these fucking trolls, both sides bears and bulls).... for now it is just painful, slow and boring bear market.

I agree, the sooner this bear bubble bursts the better.

As long as there is mining to prove bitcoin's work and the blockchain. There will be a 'bear bubble', I think there is a total of 3250 btc that needs to be sold daily for miners to return their electricity pay.

oh not again with this no-argument plz. big miners dont dump. or else they dump OTC. not on stamp or finex.

I'm sure some do, is there a lot of liquidity on OTC?

The OTC buyers must sell to someone. What if they dump on stamp or finex?

OTC buyers are usually the whales who manage to acquire thousands of BTC. Perhaps they hold.
legendary
Activity: 1092
Merit: 1000
you turned to a delusional cultist.... but hey who knows, maybe I am the delusional one here, we will see about it later.
But when the retardo troll crowd tries to spin another major investment by the legacy finance world as further signs that crypto is doomed... well, it's getting a bit transparent.

This is what I am trying to say, Bitcoin is fine for now, in fact it is doing better than anytime before...but Bitcoin price is really not OK,  the soonest this bubble burst the faster things can develop and normal growth can start again ( and we can get rid of these fucking trolls, both sides bears and bulls).... for now it is just painful, slow and boring bear market.


Guess we're in agreement then mostly. There are some signs that the (2013) 2014 (2015) bear market is, if not ending, getting closer to an end, but your guess is as good as mine if we already reached bottom or not.

Here's what I think:
extending a line running through historic price on a log chart arriving at ONE MILLION DOLLAR per bitcoin by the end of next Thursday,



what ?? bitcoin is going to be worth 1M by next thrusday ?? everybody did you hear that ?? bitcoin will be worth 1M by next thursday! the train is leaving the terminal. all aboard the "1M bitcoin by next thursday" 'unicorns of odakrell' train .
legendary
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hero member
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sr. member
Activity: 314
Merit: 250
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I still read your main account, you put quite a bit of effort into that one, but your alts go on ignore Smiley

you turned to a delusional cultist.... but hey who knows, maybe I am the delusional one here, we will see about it later.


Aww, second time you accuse me of becoming a "cultist". You'll note that there are no "$10k coin in summer" predictions coming from me.

But when the retardo troll crowd tries to spin another major investment by the legacy finance world as further signs that crypto is doomed... well, it's getting a bit transparent.

This is what I am trying to say, Bitcoin is fine for now, in fact it is doing better than anytime before...but Bitcoin price is really not OK,  the soonest this bubble burst the faster things can develop and normal growth can start again ( and we can get rid of these fucking trolls, both sides bears and bulls).... for now it is just painful, slow and boring bear market.

I agree, the sooner this bear bubble bursts the better.

As long as there is mining to prove bitcoin's work and the blockchain. There will be a 'bear bubble', I think there is a total of 3250 btc that needs to be sold daily for miners to return their electricity pay.

oh not again with this no-argument plz. big miners dont dump. or else they dump OTC. not on stamp or finex.

I'm sure some do, is there a lot of liquidity on OTC?

The OTC buyers must sell to someone. What if they dump on stamp or finex?
full member
Activity: 215
Merit: 100
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I still read your main account, you put quite a bit of effort into that one, but your alts go on ignore Smiley

you turned to a delusional cultist.... but hey who knows, maybe I am the delusional one here, we will see about it later.


Aww, second time you accuse me of becoming a "cultist". You'll note that there are no "$10k coin in summer" predictions coming from me.

But when the retardo troll crowd tries to spin another major investment by the legacy finance world as further signs that crypto is doomed... well, it's getting a bit transparent.

This is what I am trying to say, Bitcoin is fine for now, in fact it is doing better than anytime before...but Bitcoin price is really not OK,  the soonest this bubble burst the faster things can develop and normal growth can start again ( and we can get rid of these fucking trolls, both sides bears and bulls).... for now it is just painful, slow and boring bear market.

I agree, the sooner this bear bubble bursts the better.

As long as there is mining to prove bitcoin's work and the blockchain. There will be a 'bear bubble', I think there is a total of 3250 btc that needs to be sold daily for miners to return their electricity pay.

oh not again with this no-argument plz. big miners dont dump. or else they dump OTC. not on stamp or finex.

I'm sure some do, is there a lot of liquidity on OTC?
full member
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As long as there is mining to prove bitcoin's work and the blockchain. There will be a 'bear bubble', I think there is a total of 3250 btc that needs to be sold daily for miners to return their electricity pay.

That's $692,250 a day at current prices. 24hr volume is $17mil. Please research your statements.

It is easy to pump volume, a trade backwards and forwards at the current market price adds to volume. Do your research.
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
I hardly recognize any of the people on this forum any more. That collapse last week really hit hard. But if the market can keep gobbling up those manipu-dumps I think the future might look a little brighter.
sr. member
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...When they discover they just can hold it anonymously, they will come in and we will see it in price action. ...

You should probably give them a call & clue them in.  They'll be really grateful & give you a nice mansion.
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You don't have understand technology to understand why a currency capped at 21M with half already in the hands of neck beard nerds and come into existence by solving puzzles in big jerry rigged Chinese warehouses is not ever gonna work in the real world.


This is as funny as wrong.

Wasn't it Buffet who said about land - they don't make it anymore. I think some professional investors know that the value would rise with more holding, and could take the risk with a small sum, but I think they are held back by not knowing how to report it, taxing and so on. When they discover they just can hold it anonymously, they will come in and we will see it in price action. If I know these guys right, they (some of them) don't care about reporting if they think they can get away without reporting it.


Bitcoin is not a secret any more FYI.

Most investores like "sure play" bitcoin is NOT sure play. If you had any considerable amounts of money in your pocket/wallet/bank you would also be very carefull on not investing it on something like Bitcoin, at least in this stage.

Taxing gains is never an issue, but what happens if you lose out? Will that get reducted from you tax? Thats some unclare questions, not the questions you asked.

Sorry for the hostality, but your post was NOT well though.
legendary
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You don't have understand technology to understand why a currency capped at 21M with half already in the hands of neck beard nerds and come into existence by solving puzzles in big jerry rigged Chinese warehouses is not ever gonna work in the real world.


This is as funny as wrong.

Wasn't it Buffet who said about land - they don't make it anymore. I think some professional investors know that the value would rise with more holding, and could take the risk with a small sum, but I think they are held back by not knowing how to report it, taxing and so on. When they discover they just can hold it anonymously, they will come in and we will see it in price action. If I know these guys right, they (some of them) don't care about reporting if they think they can get away without reporting it.
legendary
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central banking = outdated protocol
As long as there is mining to prove bitcoin's work and the blockchain. There will be a 'bear bubble', I think there is a total of 3250 btc that needs to be sold daily for miners to return their electricity pay.

That's $692,250 a day at current prices. 24hr volume is $17mil. Please research your statements.

+1
legendary
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you turned to a delusional cultist.... but hey who knows, maybe I am the delusional one here, we will see about it later.
But when the retardo troll crowd tries to spin another major investment by the legacy finance world as further signs that crypto is doomed... well, it's getting a bit transparent.

This is what I am trying to say, Bitcoin is fine for now, in fact it is doing better than anytime before...but Bitcoin price is really not OK,  the soonest this bubble burst the faster things can develop and normal growth can start again ( and we can get rid of these fucking trolls, both sides bears and bulls).... for now it is just painful, slow and boring bear market.


Guess we're in agreement then mostly. There are some signs that the (2013) 2014 (2015) bear market is, if not ending, getting closer to an end, but your guess is as good as mine if we already reached bottom or not.

Here's what I think:

I don't buy the bullshit of extending a line running through historic price on a log chart arriving at ONE MILLION DOLLAR per bitcoin by the end of next Thursday, but I also don't buy the bearshit of declaring Bitcoin dead and failed when VC money pours in like it did this year.

The latter doesn't mean we're going to rally now, not even this year or the next necessarily, but I do take it as another milestone for crypto becoming entrenched as a part of human society.

Which sounds good enough for me. The rest is a matter of your investment time horizon, your risk profile, and your ability to control risk.
hero member
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As long as there is mining to prove bitcoin's work and the blockchain. There will be a 'bear bubble', I think there is a total of 3250 btc that needs to be sold daily for miners to return their electricity pay.

That's $692,250 a day at current prices. 24hr volume is $17mil. Please research your statements.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1002
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I still read your main account, you put quite a bit of effort into that one, but your alts go on ignore Smiley

you turned to a delusional cultist.... but hey who knows, maybe I am the delusional one here, we will see about it later.


Aww, second time you accuse me of becoming a "cultist". You'll note that there are no "$10k coin in summer" predictions coming from me.

But when the retardo troll crowd tries to spin another major investment by the legacy finance world as further signs that crypto is doomed... well, it's getting a bit transparent.

This is what I am trying to say, Bitcoin is fine for now, in fact it is doing better than anytime before...but Bitcoin price is really not OK,  the soonest this bubble burst the faster things can develop and normal growth can start again ( and we can get rid of these fucking trolls, both sides bears and bulls).... for now it is just painful, slow and boring bear market.

I agree, the sooner this bear bubble bursts the better.

As long as there is mining to prove bitcoin's work and the blockchain. There will be a 'bear bubble', I think there is a total of 3250 btc that needs to be sold daily for miners to return their electricity pay.

oh not again with this no-argument plz. big miners dont dump. or else they dump OTC. not on stamp or finex.
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