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hero member
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So what did you say was the bottom line, at which people will switch off their miners and the whole network will collapse?=)

i say 150...


dont worry ill just mine with my computer Cheesy i got this Cheesy
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Ok what is causing this???
Yes it has been going down fast, but this is insane!!!!!

Praying this is manipulation so the biggest whales can get cheap coins and now it will rebound to over 300.
Who is praying with me?

And again. This is getting boring.

What the hell is happening?

Here we go again...

If Bitstamp is back with improved security and no one got Goxed, why are we going nowhere but down?



Jesus Christ! Do i need to explain it again?

Look there are 4 types of Bitcoin users left:

The consumer: This is a very, very small %. They buy coins and spend them. Regardless of the price.

The bagholder: a small group of delusional idiots who keep yelling that we're about to go up, no matter how bad the market is.

These 2 groups don't control the price.
The 2 other groups do control the price and are the reason we're going down.

The early adopter: this big group of people just keeps cashing out. The smart ones did it early last year, the less smart ones have been doing it the rest of the months and even today.

The trader: by far the biggest group. This is the pump and dump you keep on seeing. Sell high, buy low. But the lows keep getting lower. Right now 270 is high. So guess what, they will take the price to 220 to buy low. They will repeat this all the way to 0.  

The group we don't have and which we need are new users. Well, after 6 years we can safely say they won't show up anymore.

Now fucking stop asking why the price is going down. 90% of the "users" of Bitcoin just use it to make short term money and don't give a shit about the technology. They will keep raping Bitcoin till it's dead.
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
Ok what is causing this???
Yes it has been going down fast, but this is insane!!!!!

Praying this is manipulation so the biggest whales can get cheap coins and now it will rebound to over 300.
Who is praying with me?

Less praying, more buying. I don't think Bitcoiners are much in favor if He must pick sides.
legendary
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So what did you say was the bottom line, at which people will switch off their miners and the whole network will collapse?=)

i say 150...
legendary
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Am I the only one worried about a flash crash here?

Worried? How can it get flashier than this?

I mean down through the orderbook..

Edit: should have moved all my coins out of storage..oh well Smiley
legendary
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There's something fishy happening on BFX, bids are slightly higher than asks, maybe it's a bot that tries to hold the price up?

Manipulation, to fool bidders and then dump hard, this shouldn't be allowed. Angry (BTW, I'm still short)
legendary
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and this aint even saturday.  Lips sealed
hero member
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There's something fishy happening on BFX, bids are slightly higher than asks, maybe it's a bot that tries to hold the price up?
to play arb probably

There is no manipulation - Blitz
legendary
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Make Bitcoin glow with ENIAC
Am I the only one worried about a flash crash here?

Worried? How can it get flashier than this?
sr. member
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So what did you say was the bottom line, at which people will switch off their miners and the whole network will collapse?=)
legendary
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Wow wow wow... no resistance here Shocked
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sr. member
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Ok what is causing this???
Yes it has been going down fast, but this is insane!!!!!

Praying this is manipulation so the biggest whales can get cheap coins and now it will rebound to over 300.
Who is praying with me?
legendary
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Finex runs out of money, they can´t stop the dump any more!
legendary
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Am I the only one worried about a flash crash here?
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HIGH.... VOLUME.... CAPITULATION!!!!
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Finex tried to stop the dumps, lmao.
legendary
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bitfinex is down to 231...

 Cry
sr. member
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Nothing drops forever. Every coin sold has been bought by someone.

If this is miners dumping (which clearly it isn't unless it is an active attempt to bankrupt their competition) then they know there is a limit to what bitcoin can endure without being irreparably damaged. Some people may cite 2011 and say, "look it recovered from 2 dollars", but there were less than 10,000 users at that stage. Bitcoin is now in the public eye, discussed openly in the MSM and adoption plus half a billion dollars of VC money ride on bitcoin having a market cap large enough to be useful as an internet currency in the next year.

I personally am not convinced this decline has had anything whatsoever to do with what is fairly minor monetary inflation. It is just speculators trading and shorting the price down. I am cool with short selling in general but in this case I think the fact whales can actively profit with just the price falling means there is less incentive to accumulate coins and profit by selling high later. It is conceivable for a large hedge fund (in fiat only) to be gaming the price with no interest in acquiring coins, instead simply manipulating the price for profit. Whilst bitcoin remains unregulated this could continue ad infinitum. In the real world where demand for a commodity per day is N, a hedge fund short selling 400xN over a few minutes is deemed manipulation. Regulated US exchanges are needed badly.

In the end though, a floor will be found through which traders 'shall not pass'. The question is whether this floor is so low as to effectively destroy the bitcoin economy and permanently damage the experiment. That would be the best outcome for, say, an organisation with a money printer and a dislike of a superior form of money gaining ground, right? Especially as the central banks have been so happy to embrace bitcoin in public; bitcoin would be the only market they aren't currently manipulating if alternative media is to be believed.

Looking through reddit there are a number of despair "i'm out" posts. Hopefully we get a high volume reversal soon, bitcoin is certainly massively oversold technically.

dat wall of fear  Grin
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