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legendary
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@theshmadz
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You can start a new position.  Only noobs hold their losses too long.  Then they get deep in the red they get afraid to take a loss and hope the price comes back up.  That's how bag holders are born.

Trust me I've done this like first 2 years when I first started trading.  Never fall in love with your trades.  Better to stop out out and take a small jab to the chin than hold on til your trade blows up

If you're trading on margin, then yes, I'd agree.

If you're holding on to a position in the most volatile asset class the world has ever seen for the last 4 years, and seen the market go from 2 dollars to 1200 and back again now to 300, maybe you'd have a different perspective?

I wanted to edit this and apologize for being combative.

I think the point I was trying to make is that sometimes in a fast moving, volatile market, many times the price will run on you and you won't easily be able to open a new position.

Of course this can work both ways and you can indeed be left holding the bag.

I was simply trying to point out that there is a chance that it is the fiat bag holders that might lose out on this deal.



hero member
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You can play for fiat, or you can play for keeps.

The choice is yours.

What you never heard of stops?  Terrible trading advice whoever told you that

Right, I guess that Jesse Livermore is just some idiot who had never traded before  Roll Eyes

Btw, here's some first hand experience of how well stops work in bitcoin land where the exchange operators know exactly where your stops are placed.

Quote from: shmadz link=topic=178336.msg10026441#msg10026441

Stop losses? LOL!

I deposit fiat to the exchange. I withdraw bitcoins to cold storage. Then I wait.

I tried using stop losses. Once I put one on really low and the price briefly spiked down to half a cent below my stop loss, then shot straight back up to the moon again.  Angry


You can start a new position.  Only noobs hold their losses too long.  Then they get deep in the red they get afraid to take a loss and hope the price comes back up.  That's how bag holders are born.

Trust me I've done this like first 2 years when I first started trading.  Never fall in love with your trades.  Better to stop out out and take a small jab to the chin than hold on til your trade blows up
legendary
Activity: 1512
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@theshmadz
... You can play for fiat, or you can play for keeps.

The choice is yours.

Sage & inspiring words of a true BTCeanie BTCeliever.  
Not laughing right now, honest.



Thanks for clipping that part and bringing to light how incredibly cheesy it sounded.

Oh well, I guess I'm just a beanie baby dreamer,
legendary
Activity: 1512
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@theshmadz

You can play for fiat, or you can play for keeps.

The choice is yours.

What you never heard of stops?  Terrible trading advice whoever told you that

Right, I guess that Jesse Livermore is just some idiot who had never traded before  Roll Eyes

Btw, here's some first hand experience of how well stops work in bitcoin land where the exchange operators know exactly where your stops are placed.

Quote from: shmadz link=topic=178336.msg10026441#msg10026441

Stop losses? LOL!

I deposit fiat to the exchange. I withdraw bitcoins to cold storage. Then I wait.

I tried using stop losses. Once I put one on really low and the price briefly spiked down to half a cent below my stop loss, then shot straight back up to the moon again.  Angry
sr. member
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@ Steven Irving

The link to the explanation is broken. Chart buddy shows a 3D view of market depth at bitstamp over the past hour. It's just a series of lines drawn minute by minute showing the order book changing over time.

Thank you for explaining that
hero member
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Looks like it has leveled out for now but if you look at the 1w charts its obvious Bitcoin is going to continue its downward spiral below $272.

Bitcoin value has come back to roost folks...get used to it.

If your not all fiat right now you will miss the reset when it hits single digits before starting the next bubble.

Personally, I would be more afraid to be all fiat at this point. I have a position in this market and I will not be shaken out by panic moves.

It reminds me of something I once read, I think it went something like this:

Quote
"My dear boy," said old Partridge, in great distress "my dear boy, if I sold that stock now I'd lose my position; and then where would I be?"

My point is this, we are all just playing a game, trying to get more of what the other players have. You can play for fiat, or you can play for keeps.

The choice is yours.

What you never heard of stops?  Terrible trading advice whoever told you that
legendary
Activity: 1512
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@theshmadz
@ Steven Irving

The link to the explanation is broken. Chart buddy shows a 3D view of market depth at bitstamp over the past hour. It's just a series of lines drawn minute by minute showing the order book changing over time.
sr. member
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... You can play for fiat, or you can play for keeps.

The choice is yours.

Sage & inspiring words of a true BTCeanie BTCeliever.  
Not laughing right now, honest.

legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
@theshmadz
Looks like it has leveled out for now but if you look at the 1w charts its obvious Bitcoin is going to continue its downward spiral below $272.

Bitcoin value has come back to roost folks...get used to it.

If your not all fiat right now you will miss the reset when it hits single digits before starting the next bubble.

Personally, I would be more afraid to be all fiat at this point. I have a position in this market and I will not be shaken out by panic moves.

It reminds me of something I once read, I think it went something like this:

Quote
"My dear boy," said old Partridge, in great distress "my dear boy, if I sold that stock now I'd lose my position; and then where would I be?"

My point is this, we are all just playing a game, trying to get more of what the other players have. You can play for fiat, or you can play for keeps.

The choice is yours.
legendary
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dumping in progress  Lips sealed

cant believe this  Huh
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legendary
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God.....
Are you there.....?
Its me God....
All I ask is for the Bitcoin to go to 400..........
I don't think that is too much to ask for.
Heck, I would be ok if it was just two bots manipulating the price.
I bought 80 BTC at 500$.
I refuse to sell until it hits 350-400$
So does that mean unintentionally I am going to be a permabull with bearish intentions.
Come on lucky dice.
I need you now

WTF?
Lamby?  Grin
Not trolling.
Really sitting on all of these coins.
I just need my money back in a hurry because life has come up.
I don't have until the end of the year when it goes past the ATH
legendary
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That was "crash down and make a new all time recent low" for >40% right? Undecided
sr. member
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legendary
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World Class Cryptonaire
A little perspective from looking back at the crashes of the past.

At least this time we don't have one single point of failure like when gox halted trading in the crash from 266 to what? 70?

At least this time trades are getting filled and people are getting what they want. You want to sell? Sure! Plenty of liquidity at these prices. You want to buy? No problem! A veritable flood of sellers.

I wonder if these high volume events are just an indication of price discovery at work. We may need to get used to sub 300 because there seems to be plenty of liquidity on either side of this price.

285 to 275 sideways range for next couple weeks would suit me just fine.

I don't know how you people make money with crashing prices. I have to learn how to trade this year Undecided

Short selling. Check out bitfinex
legendary
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Strange, yet attractive.
Goodnight fellas. Goodnight Lambchop. I'm gonna have sweet wet dreams tonight. Come on. Admit it. You bought all the way down... Wink
legendary
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A little perspective from looking back at the crashes of the past.

At least this time we don't have one single point of failure like when gox halted trading in the crash from 266 to what? 70?

At least this time trades are getting filled and people are getting what they want. You want to sell? Sure! Plenty of liquidity at these prices. You want to buy? No problem! A veritable flood of sellers.

I wonder if these high volume events are just an indication of price discovery at work. We may need to get used to sub 300 because there seems to be plenty of liquidity on either side of this price.

285 to 275 sideways range for next couple weeks would suit me just fine.

I don't know how you people make money with crashing prices. I have to learn how to trade this year Undecided

Easy. Buy high, sell low. Piece of cake  Grin

Piff paff easy peasy Tongue
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1002
Strange, yet attractive.
God.....
Are you there.....?
Its me God....
All I ask is for the Bitcoin to go to 400..........
I don't think that is too much to ask for.
Heck, I would be ok if it was just two bots manipulating the price.
I bought 80 BTC at 500$.
I refuse to sell until it hits 350-400$
So does that mean unintentionally I am going to be a permabull with bearish intentions.
Come on lucky dice.
I need you now

WTF?
Lamby?  Grin
hero member
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Merit: 1000
Looks like it has leveled out for now but if you look at the 1w charts its obvious Bitcoin is going to continue its downward spiral below $272.

Bitcoin value has come back to roost folks...get used to it.

If your not all fiat right now you will miss the reset when it hits single digits before starting the next bubble.

Single digit talk is just as ridiculous as the people expecting $10K last year.
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