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Whoa there.  A ponzi is a pyramid scheme created by a malefactor.
A pyramid scheme is any scheme in which early adopters profit only if new money keeps coming in.  I don't think you want to argue that Bitcoin's price can grow without influx of new money - bitcoin doesn't produce anything other than more bitcoins and heat.

I have already explained why a rational player would invest in a pyramid scheme (buy BTC at the auction), but I'll do it again:

1. Buy BTC below market at auction.
2. Sell on exchanges at market.
3. Profit.

Ok, I understood your point. But, who says that new monies won't come in and people won't profit anymore? BTC is still in development mode and has a lot to capture... Smiley

That's a different question altogether.  There's always new money coming in, the question is "at what rate?"  With Beanie Babies, for instance, it's sufficient for the actors to hodl their Beanies for the price to remain stable.  
Not so with bitcoin.
Unlike the Beanies, which are no longer being printed  mined made, more than 3,600 bitcoins are printed every day.  These, as I've pointed out, are being sold.
Enough fresh money needs to come into the system buy these and keep the price stable.

TL;DR: It's not impossible for the price to go up, but for it to go up substantially is unlikely.  Just an opinion.
legendary
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5th amendment Cheesy to the filing this time I guess the juicy part was them outlining the shares to be sold. I wish the process would have a better time it will take the SEC to approve/disapprove

So is it approved yet?

I have no fucking clue, thanks to the vagueness of everything.

Typical Wall Street

If you read in the main sec.gov COIN page:

Filing Date
2014-12-31
Accepted
2014-12-30 21:10:03

Documents
14

So, I guess it is already accepted and they will work now to launch it.

NO. It always says "accepted", e.g. the first submission: http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1579346/000119312513279830/0001193125-13-279830-index.htm
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legendary
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5th amendment Cheesy to the filing this time I guess the juicy part was them outlining the shares to be sold. I wish the process would have a better time it will take the SEC to approve/disapprove

So is it approved yet?

I have no fucking clue, thanks to the vagueness of everything.

Typical Wall Street

If you read in the main sec.gov COIN page:

Filing Date
2014-12-31
Accepted
2014-12-30 21:10:03

Documents
14

So, I guess it is already accepted and nearly ready to launch.
Hore Shet meme
legendary
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5th amendment Cheesy to the filing this time I guess the juicy part was them outlining the shares to be sold. I wish the process would have a better time it will take the SEC to approve/disapprove

So is it approved yet?

I have no fucking clue, thanks to the vagueness of everything.

Typical Wall Street

If you read in the main sec.gov COIN page:

Filing Date
2014-12-31
Accepted
2014-12-30 21:10:03

Documents
14

So, I guess it is already accepted and they will work now to launch it.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000

5th amendment Cheesy to the filing this time I guess the juicy part was them outlining the shares to be sold. I wish the process would have a better time it will take the SEC to approve/disapprove

So is it approved yet?

I have no fucking clue, thanks to the vagueness of everything.

Typical Wall Street
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5th amendment Cheesy to the filing this time I guess the juicy part was them outlining the shares to be sold. I wish the process would have a better time it will take the SEC to approve/disapprove

So is it approved yet?

I have no fucking clue, thanks to the vagueness of everything.
legendary
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legendary
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!!! RiSe aBovE ThE StoRm !!!
Whoa there.  A ponzi is a pyramid scheme created by a malefactor.
A pyramid scheme is any scheme in which early adopters profit only if new money keeps coming in.  I don't think you want to argue that Bitcoin's price can grow without influx of new money - bitcoin doesn't produce anything other than more bitcoins and heat.

I have already explained why a rational player would invest in a pyramid scheme (buy BTC at the auction), but I'll do it again:

1. Buy BTC below market at auction.
2. Sell on exchanges at market.
3. Profit.

Ok, I understood your point. But, who says that new monies won't come in and people won't profit anymore? BTC is still in development mode and has a lot to capture... Smiley
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5th amendment Cheesy to the filing this time I guess the juicy part was them outlining the shares to be sold. I wish the process would have a better time it will take the SEC to approve/disapprove
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I didn't say that bitcoin was a ponzi, just explained why a reasonable person would invest in one.  Bitcoin is more of a pyramid scheme.
Not sure what people taking BTC for coffee has to do with this.

Obviously, it has to... Because it is a part too of the so-called pyramid scheme you talking about... Take Microsoft as example, they started taking BTC and yes, I do believe that for us the price of Bitcoins ain't what we wanted after bashing in all the stupid posts regarding the moons, but this is what these big guys wanted, a bit-stable environment to neither profit a lot, nor make a huge loss... Else, whilst the previous auction was held, nobody would have bought any of these...

Whoa there.  A ponzi is a pyramid scheme created by a malefactor.
A pyramid scheme is any scheme in which early adopters profit only if new money keeps coming in.  I don't think you want to argue that Bitcoin's price can grow without influx of new money - bitcoin doesn't produce anything other than more bitcoins and heat.

I have already explained why a rational player would invest in a pyramid scheme (buy BTC at the auction), but I'll do it again:

1. Buy BTC below market at auction.
2. Sell on exchanges at market.
3. Profit.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1000
!!! RiSe aBovE ThE StoRm !!!
If Joe Sixpack suddenly had to estimate the width of Kim Kardashian´s ass

in centimeters rather than inches there would probably be a revolution in

the land. So I wouldn´t really count on them as authority.

I ain't counting on them as authorities, but they can just be called Contributors...

I didn't say that bitcoin was a ponzi, just explained why a reasonable person would invest in one.  Bitcoin is more of a pyramid scheme.
Not sure what people taking BTC for coffee has to do with this.

Obviously, it has to... Because it is a part too of the so-called pyramid scheme you talking about... Take Microsoft as example, they started taking BTC and yes, I do believe that for us the price of Bitcoins ain't what we wanted after bashing in all the stupid posts regarding the moons, but this is what these big guys wanted, a bit-stable environment to neither profit a lot, nor make a huge loss... Else, whilst the previous auction was held, nobody would have bought any of these...
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Because profiting from a ponzi is guaranteed, as long as you manage to get out before the rubes catch on?

I believe BTC ain't a pnozi because if it was, I don't think people are too fool to be true to put in their monies in this so-called pnozi...

There are still some places where people accept BTC to buy a coffee, ain't there? Wink

I didn't say that bitcoin was a ponzi, just explained why a reasonable person would invest in one.  Bitcoin is more of a pyramid scheme.
Not sure what people taking BTC for coffee has to do with this.
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Because profiting from a ponzi is guaranteed, as long as you manage to get out before the rubes catch on?

I believe BTC ain't a pnozi because if it was, I don't think people are too fool to be true to put in their monies in this so-called pnozi...

There are still some places where people accept BTC to buy a coffee, ain't there? Wink

If Joe Sixpack suddenly had to estimate the width of Kim Kardashian´s ass

in centimeters rather than inches there would probably be a revolution in

the land. So I wouldn´t really count on them as authority.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1000
!!! RiSe aBovE ThE StoRm !!!
Because profiting from a ponzi is guaranteed, as long as you manage to get out before the rubes catch on?

I believe BTC ain't a pnozi because if it was, I don't think people are too fool to be true to put in their monies in this so-called pnozi...

There are still some places where people accept BTC to buy a coffee, ain't there? Wink
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In other words, it´s some sort of a scam. A ponzi scheme if you will.

Wow, if it's a ponzi, why are you in? Tongue Lolz, seriously man...

Because profiting from a ponzi is guaranteed, as long as you manage to get out before the rubes catch on?
legendary
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Strange, yet attractive.
But have fun chasing it down. Don´t let me bother you.

You know how people are; chasing dreams all the time. Don't ruin it for us all fools here. You outsmart us all anyway. Thank you for your contribution anyway. Kiss
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!!! RiSe aBovE ThE StoRm !!!
In other words, it´s some sort of a scam. A ponzi scheme if you will.

Wow, if it's a ponzi, why are you in? Tongue Lolz, seriously man... Ok, I get your point somewhere, but even if it's a ponzi, I feel proud to say that I am a part of it... Wink

It's been 5 years since this ^PNOZI's^ running...  Grin It's gonna enter 6th now... You better decide whether you are in or not...   Cheesy  Cool

Happy New Year Dude... Smiley

EDIT:
If you constantly throw increasing production capacity at a product

that keeps falling in price you have to hedge by selling the product

short. Otherwise how can the scheme keep going ?

+1 to the above mentioned explanation... Smiley
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