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How the hell does NotLambChop do it? How is he so good at trolling? The guy is an obvious troll like 98% of the time, everyone says he's a troll, the guy even outright admits it occasionally, and he STILL baits people into responding to him.

Either he is the best troll of all time, or a lot of you are very easy to troll. I'm putting my money on the latter.

Certainly one of the best trolls I've ever come across. And I was a b/tard once



Some skills are only so transferable Grin
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How the hell does NotLambChop do it? How is he so good at trolling? The guy is an obvious troll like 98% of the time, everyone says he's a troll, the guy even outright admits it occasionally, and he STILL baits people into responding to him.

Either he is the best troll of all time, or a lot of you are very easy to troll. I'm putting my money on the latter.
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Comparing prices among some exchanges

The goal of this exercise was to compare the prices on major exchanges over time, trying to filter out daily variations.

For this goal, I collected from the ste bitcoincharts.com the daily prices at six major exchanges available there:

  MGOX 2010-07-17 -- 2014-02-25 MtGOX    
  BTCE 2011-08-14 -- 2014-11-27 BTC-e    
  BSTP 2011-09-13 -- 2014-11-27 Bitstamp  
  BFNX 2013-03-31 -- 2014-11-27 Bitfinex  
  BTCC 2011-06-13 -- 2014-11-27 BTC-China
  OKCO 2013-06-12 -- 2014-11-27 OKCoin.cn

Specifically, for each exchange, I used the average of the trade prices within each UTC day, weighted by the trade volumes. These prices were smoothed with a 29-day Hahn window, and interpolated over small gaps by weighted linear regression in that window. See the plot below.


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In this plot, for easier comparison, the prices at BTC-China and OKCoin were divided by 6.18, the mean CNY:USD currency rate since April 2014.

Initial inflation

Note that, when each of those exchanges opened, its price was significantly above the others for some time.  A possible explanation is that their initial clients include many enthusiastic but novice traders, who had not yet learned to compare prices among exchanges.  The only exception is BTC-e, which has been somewaht lower than the others, most of the time.

Reference price

To compare the prices of those six exchanges, I had to pick a reference price.  None of those exchanges existed over the complete time interval spanend by the data, from 2010-07-17 to 2014-11-27.  Moreover, every one of them was clearly "deviant" at some time or another.

For example, it is well-known that MtGOX's price was well above market  A visual comparison of the plots show that the discrepancy started around 2013-04-01:  


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It turns out that, between May/2012 and Jan/2013, the prices of MtGOX and Bitstamp are fairly close.   Therefore, I decided to set the (smoothed) reference price as being the (smoothed) MtGOX price before 2012-05-01 and the (smoothed) Bitstamp price after 2013-01-31, with a gradual transition between the two (a weighted mean of the two, with shifted-sine weight).

Relative prices

The following plot shows the ratios of the (smoothed) price at each exchange to the (smoothed) reference price defined as above:


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Note that BTC-e was below the MtGOX/Bitstamp reference most of the time. Also, except at the opening in April 2013, Bitfinex has always been
always almost identical to Bitstamp.

The BTC:CNY prices in BTC-China and OKCoin were quite close, except for a couple of weeks after OKCoin opened on 2013-06-12.  However, both varied significantly relative to the MtGOX/Bitstamp reference.

Specifically, the price in China was significantly higher than normal during the ascending phases of the bubbles that peaked on 2012-06-01,
2012-10-01, 2013-04-09, 2013-11-29.  The Chinese prices sharply dropped in the descending phases of those bubbles, particularly around 2013-06-01 and 2013-12-20. This behavior is consistent with the theory that those bubbles were created by the opening of markets in China, and markets outside China struggled to follow.

On the other hand, the prices at BTC-China were higher than normal also from 2011-07-01 to 2012-01, and around 2013-06-15, when the price was falling. That may indicate that those drops of the price were due to loss of demand (or increased offer) outside China, and BTC-China lagged behind.

Data files

Raw volumes and smoothed prices. The data fields (ignoring the "|" separators) are the UTC date and the start UTC hour of the sampling interval (always "00:00:00" hour), and then, for each of the six exchanges: the day's traded volume in the national currency, the day's traded volume in BTC, and the smoothed mean trade price. Zero values are missing data.

Relative smoothed prices. The data fields are the date and time as above, the smoothed reference price (smooth splice of MtGOX and Bitstamp prices), and then, for each exchange, the ratio of its smoothed mean price to the smoothed reference price.  Zero relative prices indicate missing data.
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Very volume.
*Seriously tho, feel that calm before Satan poops in your sandbox?
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Yo, the price going up or is it going down? IHNFC!!

Neither.

Flatlining.
it will go up today.

Monday is the day Wink

I hope you are right but it looks awfully quiet.
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Yo, the price going up or is it going down? IHNFC!!

Neither.

Flatlining.
it will go up today.

Monday is the day Wink
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Yo, the price going up or is it going down? IHNFC!!

Neither.

Flatlining.

Flatlining could be good. Besides being better than falling, it would be nice with a small juletime adoption wave.
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can anyone tell me if there is any point in not ignoring odalv?

because he's trolling the troll maybe ?

Please don´t quote the troll (Fatman3001), thx.

Am I the dumbest troll or am I quoting?

Trick self-referential question.  The correct answer is "both."
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Yo, the price going up or is it going down? IHNFC!!

Neither.

Flatlining.
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Yo, the price going up or is it going down? IHNFC!!
legendary
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can anyone tell me if there is any point in not ignoring odalv?

because he's trolling the troll maybe ?

Please don´t quote the troll (Fatman3001), thx.

Am I the troll or am I quoting?
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I have to admit, this ignore button is addictive. Bye JJG!

Under his great walls of text I eventually caved in, too.


I think it is what the germans call "durchfall"
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I have to admit, this ignore button is addictive. Bye JJG!

Under his great walls of text I eventually caved in, too.
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I have to admit, this ignore button is addictive. Bye JJG!
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can anyone tell me if there is any point in not ignoring odalv?

because he's trolling the troll maybe ?

Please don´t quote the troll (Fatman3001), thx.
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Tonight on 60 Minutes, why holiday shoppers should be worried about getting their credit card info stolen...

Would have been a great time to unveil a Bitcoin commercial. Oh well, maybe one day.

There was a whole series of ads posted by this guy...

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