Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 24203. (Read 26609306 times)

I just give up. I guess every village needs its idiot. It appears we've come full circle.

There is volume in China. Hey, that's a financial koan.

You are attempting to get me to stop doing something.. . am I attempting to stop you?  NO

If you post FUD, then I may say, "that's bullshit."  Let's stick to substance rather than style, but you trolls and FUD spreaders prefer to get distracted into personal attacks and into misinformation and into non-relevant technicals..   Yes, some of us have noticed that those are the attributes of trolls and fud spreaders and spammers and "spammer trolls"  (my new signature . hahahahaha)...  

YOU NEWBIE IS A "SPAM TROLLER"     

oh no volume again, i hope the price is not going to dive atm  

Indeed.  This may be easier to read:
http://www.walletexplorer.com/address/1i7cZdoE9NcHSdAL5eGjmTJbBVqeQDwgw

Then what could the spike be?

THIS. THIS is the point -- "who died and put you in charge"? THE POINT IS THIS.

 

Who died and put you in charge?  I have every right to call something FUD if that is how I see it, whether I am correct or NOT.

You attempt to act as if you have some superior perspective of what should be or NOT...   

No, they are resting here:

https://blockchain.info/address/1i7cZdoE9NcHSdAL5eGjmTJbBVqeQDwgw

Give the guy a break, those bags he's holding are really heavy.

The spike shows practially unchanged (~43 million bitcoin-days)  in the chart filtered by "minimum age 1 month" but is totally invisible in the chart with "minimum age 1 year".  It means that the coins responsible for the spike were last moved between 30 and 365 days ago.  I would guess that it was a single owner, or maybe a few.  (If it was a collective event, such as Black Friday shopping, it should have moved many young coins too.)

The number of coins involved is therefore between 43 M / 365 = ~118 kBTC and 43 M / 30 = ~1.43 M BTC.

If the owner bought those coins within the past year, he must have paid 45 million to 1.7 billion dollars for them. But the coins may have been bought well before they were last moved, so their cost may have been much less.

That spike may be the ~144'000 coins seized from Ross Ulbricht's laptop.  They were probably moved to a single address by the FBI after his arrest, and are now being moved to an address under control of the USMS, and/or are being split into lots, in preparation for the auction.  If that is the explanation, the last time they were moved must have been 43 M / 144 K = ~300 days ago, by the end of jan/2014.  It should be easy to confirm or exclude this explanation by looking at the blockchain.

It could also be blockchain.info (or some other big holder) moving all their coins to new addresses, if they became concerned about the safety of the old keys.

Seriously somebody shoot me in the face

good for you

if someone came in and attempted to dedicate way too much significance to that one fact, then I may call that FUD spreading, or if someone skewed the information  or if someone only tells part of the story while leaving out obvious relevant and material counter facts, then I may call that FUD spreading too.  Sometimes, I may be wrong about the posters intent to spread FUD

Yea, cut that s--- out... it scares away the normals. Not everything is FUD. Sometimes people are curious or place inaccurate value on certain info. And, if they are overstating certain info, I want to know that, too -- it's not just the info that matters, but what people think the info means. Like, free market of ideas, man. The trolls are not in disguise.

LOVE

empowering killing it with the gifs today!

JJG re-enters my ignore list.

Whatever, I post my response, whether correct or NOT.. I do the best under the circumstances in the event that I feel a need to attempt to intervene.

I have NO problem with Tzupy's days destroyed post; however, for example, if someone came in and attempted to dedicate way too much significance to that one fact, then I may call that FUD spreading, or if someone skewed the information  or if someone only tells part of the story while leaving out obvious relevant and material counter facts, then I may call that FUD spreading too.  Sometimes, I may be wrong about the posters intent to spread FUD, and from time to time, I have admitted my misunderstanding...

Yet part of the reason for posting in forums like this is to be able to, from time to time, interactively bounce ideas off of other posters.

Yeah..

"arrogant prick" = anyone who insists and denigrates trolls for NOT explaining the troll's bullshit conclusions and assertions.  

"arrogant prick" = anyone who attempts to get trolls to clarify the troll's bullshit conclusions and assertions.  


"arrogant prick" = anyone who upsets a troll in spite of the troll's bullshit conclusions and assertions.  

Yes.. seems that I meet those definitions.
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You do go after other people, too... you are a little quick to judge and assume the worst. This doesn't need to be an ongoing thing, but you're not always the most welcoming lad in this joint.


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My own level of welcoming depends on the contents of the post(s) to which I am responding and potentially my own mood.  If someone backs up what s/he / it is saying, then I am generally accepting of that kind of information, even if I don't agree.  

On the other hand, if what seems to be FUD is being spread for what seems to be book talking reasons, then sometimes I will question the intentions of the poster and even question how the poster arrived at such post contents and even point out what appears to be biases in the post contents and seeming intentions.  

And, yes there may be some selective enforcement and even selective targeting based on some randomness.  I would imagine that there are NOT too many of us in here who can keep up with all of the various postings within this thread (whether informative or NOT).
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Dude, you're doing it again. It's over. Sometimes I think that you think your shadow is FUD. FUD isn't everything you disagree with. For instance, if I posted the same thing Tzupy posted, and you might even say it to Tzupy, about the days destroyed peak you might call it FUD. But, I want to know things like that. It helps people avoid getting blindsided. Even rumors that are at least not completely baseless... I want to know those, too... it helps people avoid getting blindsided.

So, if it is a total troll job or like the one guy posting about how the Winklevoss ETF failed when there has simply been no news on it -- go full speed ahead at them. If it's bordering on reasonable, give a counter point.

My own level of welcoming depends on the contents of the post(s) to which I am responding and potentially my own mood.  If someone backs up what s/he / it is saying, then I am generally accepting of that kind of information, even if I don't agree. 

On the other hand, if what seems to be FUD is being spread for what seems to be book talking reasons, then sometimes I will question the intentions of the poster and even question how the poster arrived at such post contents and even point out what appears to be biases in the post contents and seeming intentions. 

And, yes there may be some selective enforcement and even selective targeting based on some randomness.  I would imagine that there are NOT too many of us in here who can keep up with all of the various postings within this thread (whether informative or NOT).

You do go after other people, too... you are a little quick to judge and assume the worst. This doesn't need to be an ongoing thing, but you're not always the most welcoming lad in this joint.