2014 was sooooo shit.
Agreed, worst year ever
Nice bulltrap btw, almost got me.
Worse than 2011?
Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 24426. (Read 26713688 times)
November 21, 2014, 07:10:21 AM
Agreed, worst year ever
Nice bulltrap btw, almost got me.
Worse than 2011?
November 21, 2014, 07:08:50 AM
those coins will go above market exchange price
Exchanges and OTC are both parts of the market.
November 21, 2014, 07:07:15 AM
2014 was sooooo shit.
Agreed, worst year ever
Nice bulltrap btw, almost got me.
November 21, 2014, 07:03:07 AM
Price movement may be related to the Feds flogging thousands today.Well think its today
Which coins? I know they are auctioning off 50000 silk road bitcoins in early December. Do you mean those coins, or are they selling other coins that I had not heard about sooner?
November 21, 2014, 07:01:12 AM
November 21, 2014, 07:01:00 AM
2014 was sooooo shit.
November 21, 2014, 07:00:36 AM
Again it seems the case of one step forward and 2step back... lets see if this cycle that's occurring from a while now breaks by the end of the year.
November 21, 2014, 06:58:23 AM
Can someone explain this to me: When the price is inching up slowly in what could be a reversal of a downtrend, but probably isn't, and someone drops a 500 bitcoin wall in front of the buyers at OKCoin, is it
- manipulation,
- incredibly stupid,
- a whale mating call,
- some kind of a test of market resolve, or
- the secret best way of selling 500 bitcoins?
It's probably either manipulation, or incredibly stupid. Perhaps the seller knows something we don't, or perhaps he's a retard.
So, now there is two walls. How does that work?
Could be a trick to push the price up, I suppose.
It beats me. Perhaps someone incredibly clever is playing an incredibly clever trick on the market.
Probably the whale who did it managed to sell a few coins fairly high by playing with his walls or something.
i have theory, maybe its all about conspiracy by the cloud miner... you know the one did not have any physical miner, they need to give bitcoin to their customer, so how do they do that
buy bitcoin at lower price at the expense of real miner with physical miner. how do they buy at lower price by selling at higher price that is... 
November 21, 2014, 06:57:32 AM
Fuck...since January, anytime i buy the price goes down...i am hodling for over 18 months now, i hope the patience will be rewarded for us all
So you're hoping new suckers join, so you can profit at their expense?
No, i don't plan to sell BTC, just hold it few more years and then spend by shops where they do the same as me only...What you are talking about - ponzi scheme - central bank or somebody important released new report few days ago, that BTC is not ponzi scheme...And if BTC will succeed, there will be no suckers, only the ones who will sell at loss...And to be honest, i don't care about people investing more than they can afford to lose and then sell with loss even when in the big picture the bitcoin is in huge uptrend since 2009...if they don't have faith or want to get rich quick, they should not invest in BTC
Even if you intend to spend them, you hope their purchasing power will be greater than fiat's you invested in it. So, then again, you hope newcomers will increase your purchasing power (=you profit at their expense)
Please give me one example of an investment that doesn't work like this? How do assets or stocks go up in value and who holding that asset doesn't hope it will go up? Just explain me this in detail please and then explain the difference with Bitcoin.
i doubt you will rerceive a valuable answer from deadbrain. he choose his name not by accident.
November 21, 2014, 06:56:53 AM
Fuck...since January, anytime i buy the price goes down...i am hodling for over 18 months now, i hope the patience will be rewarded for us all
So you're hoping new suckers join, so you can profit at their expense?
No, i don't plan to sell BTC, just hold it few more years and then spend by shops where they do the same as me only...What you are talking about - ponzi scheme - central bank or somebody important released new report few days ago, that BTC is not ponzi scheme...And if BTC will succeed, there will be no suckers, only the ones who will sell at loss...And to be honest, i don't care about people investing more than they can afford to lose and then sell with loss even when in the big picture the bitcoin is in huge uptrend since 2009...if they don't have faith or want to get rich quick, they should not invest in BTC
Even if you intend to spend them, you hope their purchasing power will be greater than fiat's you invested in it. So, then again, you hope newcomers will increase your purchasing power (=you profit at their expense)
I think it is the reward for investing in the times like this, when there is blood in streets, when nobody really knows what happen with BTC. I take big risk and even when i accept the risk, i invest in BTC almost 90% of my monthly earningy. Do you think i should not be rewarded for that? It is the same as apple and other company shares years ago, if you hate early adopters of BTC getting more purchasing value by newcomers, you should hate all the successfull investors in world in all the assets and commodities
World doesn't owe you anything, just because you're investing and taking risk it doesn't necessarily guarantee reward.
Apple and other companies at least actually produce value, pay dividends and legally exist, can be sued in case they do something wrong.
Same cannot be applied for bitcoin. It doesn't produce extra value from it's clients or consumers, all of its value comes exclusively from other investors and hodlers. It's mathematically impossible for everyone to profit, so if someone made a profit and got richer, someone else has to lose (even if he doesn't know it aka. hodling).
November 21, 2014, 06:56:11 AM
Fuck...since January, anytime i buy the price goes down...i am hodling for over 18 months now, i hope the patience will be rewarded for us all
So you're hoping new suckers join, so you can profit at their expense?
No, i don't plan to sell BTC, just hold it few more years and then spend by shops where they do the same as me only...What you are talking about - ponzi scheme - central bank or somebody important released new report few days ago, that BTC is not ponzi scheme...And if BTC will succeed, there will be no suckers, only the ones who will sell at loss...And to be honest, i don't care about people investing more than they can afford to lose and then sell with loss even when in the big picture the bitcoin is in huge uptrend since 2009...if they don't have faith or want to get rich quick, they should not invest in BTC
Even if you intend to spend them, you hope their purchasing power will be greater than fiat's you invested in it. So, then again, you hope newcomers will increase your purchasing power (=you profit at their expense)
The hope is that a sufficient number of people should find sufficient utility in Bitcoin to be willing to pay considerably more than XBT is worth today. They will not be suckers, and the profit to the hodlers comes from thinking ahead. If this fails the only suckers are the hodlers themselves, if it succeeds everyone is a winner. In any event, anyone buying Bitcoin needs to be aware of the risks involved and manage their positions accordingly.
November 21, 2014, 06:50:45 AM
Fuck...since January, anytime i buy the price goes down...i am hodling for over 18 months now, i hope the patience will be rewarded for us all
So you're hoping new suckers join, so you can profit at their expense?
No, i don't plan to sell BTC, just hold it few more years and then spend by shops where they do the same as me only...What you are talking about - ponzi scheme - central bank or somebody important released new report few days ago, that BTC is not ponzi scheme...And if BTC will succeed, there will be no suckers, only the ones who will sell at loss...And to be honest, i don't care about people investing more than they can afford to lose and then sell with loss even when in the big picture the bitcoin is in huge uptrend since 2009...if they don't have faith or want to get rich quick, they should not invest in BTC
Even if you intend to spend them, you hope their purchasing power will be greater than fiat's you invested in it. So, then again, you hope newcomers will increase your purchasing power (=you profit at their expense)
The hope is that a sufficient number of people should find sufficient utility in Bitcoin to be willing to pay considerably more than XBT is worth today. They will not be suckers, and the profit to the hodlers comes from thinking ahead. If this fails the only suckers are the hodlers themselves, if it succeeds everyone is a winner. In any event, anyone buying Bitcoin needs to be aware of the risks involved and manage their positions accordingly.
November 21, 2014, 06:37:59 AM
Fuck...since January, anytime i buy the price goes down...i am hodling for over 18 months now, i hope the patience will be rewarded for us all
So you're hoping new suckers join, so you can profit at their expense?
No, i don't plan to sell BTC, just hold it few more years and then spend by shops where they do the same as me only...What you are talking about - ponzi scheme - central bank or somebody important released new report few days ago, that BTC is not ponzi scheme...And if BTC will succeed, there will be no suckers, only the ones who will sell at loss...And to be honest, i don't care about people investing more than they can afford to lose and then sell with loss even when in the big picture the bitcoin is in huge uptrend since 2009...if they don't have faith or want to get rich quick, they should not invest in BTC
Even if you intend to spend them, you hope their purchasing power will be greater than fiat's you invested in it. So, then again, you hope newcomers will increase your purchasing power (=you profit at their expense)
Please give me one example of an investment that doesn't work like this? How do assets or stocks go up in value and who holding that asset doesn't hope it will go up? Just explain me this in detail please and then explain the difference with Bitcoin.
November 21, 2014, 06:37:31 AM
I don't know why i always argue with the biggest haters and trolls
November 21, 2014, 06:34:53 AM
Fuck...since January, anytime i buy the price goes down...i am hodling for over 18 months now, i hope the patience will be rewarded for us all
So you're hoping new suckers join, so you can profit at their expense?
No, i don't plan to sell BTC, just hold it few more years and then spend by shops where they do the same as me only...What you are talking about - ponzi scheme - central bank or somebody important released new report few days ago, that BTC is not ponzi scheme...And if BTC will succeed, there will be no suckers, only the ones who will sell at loss...And to be honest, i don't care about people investing more than they can afford to lose and then sell with loss even when in the big picture the bitcoin is in huge uptrend since 2009...if they don't have faith or want to get rich quick, they should not invest in BTC
Even if you intend to spend them, you hope their purchasing power will be greater than fiat's you invested in it. So, then again, you hope newcomers will increase your purchasing power (=you profit at their expense)
I think it is the reward for investing in the times like this, when there is blood in streets, when nobody really knows what happen with BTC. I take big risk and even when i accept the risk, i invest in BTC almost 90% of my monthly earningy. Do you think i should not be rewarded for that? It is the same as apple and other company shares years ago, if you hate early adopters of BTC getting more purchasing value by newcomers, you should hate all the successfull investors in world in all the assets and commodities
November 21, 2014, 06:26:25 AM
Price movement may be related to the Feds flogging thousands today.Well think its today
They are being sold on the 4th of December - bidding registration opened on the 17th and closes a few days before the sale itself. More details here:
http://www.usmarshals.gov/assets/2014/dpr-bitcoins/
November 21, 2014, 06:07:25 AM
Price movement may be related to the Feds flogging thousands today.Well think its today
Which coins? I know they are auctioning off 50000 silk road bitcoins in early December. Do you mean those coins, or are they selling other coins that I had not heard about sooner?
November 21, 2014, 06:05:32 AM
Fuck...since January, anytime i buy the price goes down...i am hodling for over 18 months now, i hope the patience will be rewarded for us all
So you're hoping new suckers join, so you can profit at their expense?
No, i don't plan to sell BTC, just hold it few more years and then spend by shops where they do the same as me only...What you are talking about - ponzi scheme - central bank or somebody important released new report few days ago, that BTC is not ponzi scheme...And if BTC will succeed, there will be no suckers, only the ones who will sell at loss...And to be honest, i don't care about people investing more than they can afford to lose and then sell with loss even when in the big picture the bitcoin is in huge uptrend since 2009...if they don't have faith or want to get rich quick, they should not invest in BTC
Even if you intend to spend them, you hope their purchasing power will be greater than fiat's you invested in it. So, then again, you hope newcomers will increase your purchasing power (=you profit at their expense)
November 21, 2014, 06:01:11 AM
November 21, 2014, 06:00:54 AM
Price movement may be related to the Feds flogging thousands today.Well think its today
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