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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 24574. (Read 26713344 times)

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How about you look for a job instead of trolling this thread every day?

You might be able to buy some bitcoins to profit from this run  Roll Eyes

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one day, when you're ready, you will see the (technical) light, and identify the two main drivers of markets (outside fundamentals): momentum, and mean reversion Cheesy

Seriously, here is one of the reasons why I can't take most TA seriously:

An n-day moving average (MAn) is the average of n consecutive prices.  Charting the moving average instead of the price reduces the random day-to-day noise while preserving the longer-term variations.

An exponential moving average (EMA) is  similar, but gives more weight to the recent behavior -- and is easier to compute if you are using pencil and paper or a slide rule. 8-)

The difference between two MAs with different periods -- say, 7 and 21 days -- is basically a smoothed version of the second derivative of the price.  If MA7 is higher than MA21, the trend of the price is bearish, curving downwards: it is braking while going up, then accelerating down.  Conversely, if  MA7 is lower than MA21, it means that the trend is bullish, curving upwards: braking while going down, then accelerating up.   When the two graphs cross, then, the trend is changing from one mood to the other.

Good so far. However, the average of the last 21 prices tells what the price was 10 days ago, not today.   But analysts always plot the MA21 value at the final date of the 21-day interval, not at the central date.  So, the traditional MA21 plot is displaced 10 days to the right relative to its logically correct position (and you can see that clearly when it is plotted over the daily price chart).  Similarly, the  MA7  chart is shifted 3 days to the right.  Therefore, the two plots cross at the wrong dates; if they were drawn at the correct dates, crossings might appear or disappear.

TA folks even understand this problem, but they have been plotting their MAs and EMAs that way since the lower Paleolithic, and cannot be convinced to change their habits.  There may also be a psychological factor: plotting the MAn values at the correct dates makes it obvious that the analysis is based on information that is 10 days old; whereas plotting it the traditional way gives the impression that the analysis is hot from the ticker's mouth.

There is also the problem that the crossings depend on the arbitrary choice of the MA periods.   It is like computing the ROI of bitcoin investment: one gets completely different results depending on the time scale considered.

Finally,  this MA-crossing analysis depends on the hypothesis that there is an underlying price trend that can be revealed by smoothing the price.  That may be true in ordinary stocks, where the price is partly determined by fundamentals that change slowly with time (such as the overall economy and product sales).  It is rather questionable with bitcoin, since its "fudamentals" are isolated unpredictable events (like PBoC decrees and rumors).  We see that in the charts, where rallies and crashes often start suddenly, out of nowhere.
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why is today a good day to die?

Because Google said so.  Try it yourself:  Type "today is a good day " and see what the top suggestion is Smiley
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all i got was this

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How about you look for a job instead of trolling this thread every day?

You might be able to buy some bitcoins to profit from this run  Roll Eyes
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^How about you learn something about Bitcoin instead of shitting up this thread with your inanities?

I alreAdy learned the greatest lesson bitcoin can teach.
That I can make a fuck-tonne of money sitting on my ass and drinking beer. Granted those days are gone, I can still do the latter 2/3 rds
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^Google and I understand each other Smiley

why is today a good day to die?

Because Google said so.  Try it yourself:  Type "today is a good day " and see what the top suggestion is Smiley
Google knows Cool
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^How about you learn something about Bitcoin instead of shitting up this thread with your inanities?

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^Google and I understand each other Smiley

why is today a good day to die?


Well if you just sold everything some days ago at 350 or less.... well yeah Lips sealed
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why is today a good day to die?
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^Google and I understand each other Smiley

Praise Mao agood gentleman! Confirmed.
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Still sabotaging your nation's economy, Bitcoin parasite? Angry

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Have faith.
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...Today is a good day in bitcoinland Smiley



Good morning, gentlemen.
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At least the dump is taking care of the exchange divergence.
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Please raise your hand if you sold at the bottom of that dump. I know many of you traders did.

Grin  Grin Grin

That has to be the funniest pic I have ever seen on the forums 


Cheesy  Cheesy Cheesy  Cheesy  Grin
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Woah, you guys break something?  Can't take you guys anywhere.  Went to sleep at $460 and all my low ball limit orders triggered down to the teens.



Gonna have tight stop losses $1 above entry points, otherwise just gonna let these ride since I already have a core stash before this run-up started.





Nice trades
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Please raise your hand if you sold at the bottom of that dump. I know many of you traders did.

Grin  Grin Grin
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I will try to find a good entry point for 10x leverage.

Today is a good day in bitcoinland Smiley
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