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legendary
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The FBI claim that Benthall's unencrypted computer contained "address lists for customers all over the world that will be of significant interest to many global law enforcement agencies."

So pro.

Scare tactics. What they most likely have are encrypted addresses. IOW jackshit.
legendary
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The FBI claim that Benthall's unencrypted computer contained "address lists for customers all over the world that will be of significant interest to many global law enforcement agencies."

So pro.

These people.. wow. Such dicks LOL
hero member
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God i hope at least this new Silk 2.0 idiot at least encrypted his wallets. He was bragging about his security so that'd be rule #1.

I wonder how many time people had to rebuy their own coins. Buy BTC keep them on SR...have in confiscated by FBI purchase that coin again at FBI sale, store that coin at Gox...buy that same coin from "hacker", transfer it to SR2...wait for FBI sale to buy your coin yet again.  

Wouldn't count on it:

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The FBI claim that Benthall's unencrypted computer contained "address lists for customers all over the world that will be of significant interest to many global law enforcement agencies.

http://www.businessinsider.com/fbi-silk-road-seized-arrests-2014-11#ixzz3IJQe55SO
full member
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The FBI claim that Benthall's unencrypted computer contained "address lists for customers all over the world that will be of significant interest to many global law enforcement agencies."

So pro.
legendary
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In order to dump coins one must have coins
God i hope at least this new Silk 2.0 idiot at least encrypted his wallets. He was bragging about his security so that'd be rule #1.

I wonder how many time people had to rebuy their own coins. Buy BTC keep them on SR...have in confiscated by FBI purchase that coin again at FBI sale, store that coin at Gox...buy that same coin from "hacker", transfer it to SR2...wait for FBI sale to buy your coin yet again.  
legendary
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Gathering by the momentum of the sustained rally, looks like SR 2.0 didn't matter.  Grin

S.R 2.0 did not matter for shit.
legendary
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Hmm a risky approach there empowering. Your lack of fear will be disturbing. Courage being contagious and all, they may extinguish the fire that is you before it spreads Sad


Nah... this stuff is already "common" public knowledge, been available and in the public domain for years and years,  I am not saying anything new nor exciting... I already know that everyone out there with an interest in the topics surrounding cryptography, white or black hat hack,  and what they label "individuals with an interest in extreme privacy" are already most likely flagged for interest. I have nothing to fear, because my story is very simple. I just thought I would chip into the discussion on darkweb and the online drug thang, as some have pointed out the people that got caught , got caught because they were daft, and I am surprised they were that daft tbh. Really shocking. The methods mentioned are taught by governments themselves in fact,   where do you think I got this shit from? ha ha  ; )   The methodology on top of the technology is already used by agents and activists globally. Personally I just find it a fascinating subject, hence my input.

I gots nothing to hide so they can look at me all they like, I am currently, in stark contrast to the thought experiment I outlined above, using my laptop from a home connection, in my humble home, all very drab, plus I love my life, my freedom and to travel,  and so I would never do anything to put that at risk, certainly not for money or bitcoin or all the tea in china.

(also my own checklist excludes me from doing anything of such interest, as obviously I am talking about it openly, rule 1. And as Jorge would say, my interest is purely academic)

(though if the GCHQ want to offer me a job, please do, plus bonus they already have all my details to send the forms to Grin)
legendary
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Gathering by the momentum of the sustained rally, looks like SR 2.0 didn't matter.  Grin
legendary
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If a person was going to operate on the dark net, it would make sense to
a) never brag or talk about anything to do with it , ever , in RL, or on the internets, even using a pseudonym
b) never use any RL indentifiers ever
c) use cash bought throw away notebooks, cycle for new every x weeks
d) use TOR but also through a fresh temporary OS live install from a USB , i.e TAILs or live linux distro - close down after every use
e) never use their own internet connection or one tied to you in anyway (even better super dark satellite phone in a moving car on motorway)
f) have a distributed distribution network (the weakest point and really to pull off needs organised connections)
g) create brand names but cycle their darksite operations (better yet use openbazzar etc in future)
h) be paranoid and reclusive
i) not get involved unless they have super discipline

Congratulations, that constitutes probable cause. All your communications are now being closely followed. Jurisdiction is irrelevant. The recordings of all your phone, cell phone and internet useage during the past five years will be analyzed for possible illegal activity. You should assume that encryption provided by your VPN is backdoored.

That makes sense. Like we're not monitored anyway... Tongue
Seriously now, anyone who knows THE BASICS of online security won't go ONLINE to do ANYTHING illegal. Online and secret consist a schema oxymoron.

Step 1 smash your computer and your phone

Step 2 go to the middle of a forest

Step 3 get collecting that lichen and birch bark

Step 4 build pit and make fire

Step 5 find a deer to kick to death

Step 6 dinner

*Step 7 Wear dear carcass as a hat/makeshift bivouac  
legendary
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Hmm a risky approach there empowering. Your lack of fear will be disturbing. Courage being contagious and all, they may extinguish the fire that is you before it spreads Sad
legendary
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legendary
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Strange, yet attractive.

Congratulations, that constitutes probable cause. All your communications are now being closely followed. Jurisdiction is irrelevant. The recordings of all your phone, cell phone and internet useage during the past five years will be analyzed for possible illegal activity. You should assume that encryption provided by your VPN is backdoored.


Yes,  no shit? and to think I had not thought about that, nor that I assume my communications are already monitored along with everyone elses.

And what will they achieve? absolutely sweet fuck all.... they will waste their time and resources and a the end of it have an idea that I like to eat, sleep, shit, work, talk on forums,  fuck, drink and occasionally on special occasions get high... tbh they could just ask... it would be less hassle.

If they want to send a special access team over, the key is under the mat.


LOL. Priceless answer Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1441
If a person was going to operate on the dark net, it would make sense to
a) never brag or talk about anything to do with it , ever , in RL, or on the internets, even using a pseudonym
b) never use any RL indentifiers ever
c) use cash bought throw away notebooks, cycle for new every x weeks
d) use TOR but also through a fresh temporary OS live install from a USB , i.e TAILs or live linux distro - close down after every use
e) never use their own internet connection or one tied to you in anyway (even better super dark satellite phone in a moving car on motorway)
f) have a distributed distribution network (the weakest point and really to pull off needs organised connections)
g) create brand names but cycle their darksite operations (better yet use openbazzar etc in future)
h) be paranoid and reclusive
i) not get involved unless they have super discipline

Congratulations, that constitutes probable cause. All your communications are now being closely followed. Jurisdiction is irrelevant. The recordings of all your phone, cell phone and internet useage during the past five years will be analyzed for possible illegal activity. You should assume that encryption provided by your VPN is backdoored.

Yes,  no shit? and to think I had not thought about that, nor that I assume my communications are already monitored along with everyone elses.

And what will they achieve? absolutely sweet fuck all.... they will waste their time and resources and at the end of it have an idea that I like to eat, sleep, shit, work, talk on forums, fuck, drink and occasionally on special occasions get high... tbh they could just ask... it would be less hassle.

If they want to send a special access team over, the key is under the mat.


legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1002
Strange, yet attractive.
If a person was going to operate on the dark net, it would make sense to
a) never brag or talk about anything to do with it , ever , in RL, or on the internets, even using a pseudonym
b) never use any RL indentifiers ever
c) use cash bought throw away notebooks, cycle for new every x weeks
d) use TOR but also through a fresh temporary OS live install from a USB , i.e TAILs or live linux distro - close down after every use
e) never use their own internet connection or one tied to you in anyway (even better super dark satellite phone in a moving car on motorway)
f) have a distributed distribution network (the weakest point and really to pull off needs organised connections)
g) create brand names but cycle their darksite operations (better yet use openbazzar etc in future)
h) be paranoid and reclusive
i) not get involved unless they have super discipline

Congratulations, that constitutes probable cause. All your communications are now being closely followed. Jurisdiction is irrelevant. The recordings of all your phone, cell phone and internet useage during the past five years will be analyzed for possible illegal activity. You should assume that encryption provided by your VPN is backdoored.

That makes sense. Like we're not monitored anyway... Tongue
Seriously now, anyone who knows THE BASICS of online security won't go ONLINE to do ANYTHING illegal. Online and secret consist a schema oxymoron.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1441
Bitcoin, the future of black market trade!

Because, you know, it makes perfect sense to use an "Internet cash" that can be traced to your IP address by authorities with little trouble. And then, buy drugs online and provide your post address to a central party, where thereby it can be easily collected once the site is busted.  Roll Eyes

As a paranoid customer you could use the method I outline above also, and have your goods delivered to a block, with communal post, with a fake name.  

(again just a thought exercise)

(In reality as someone posted above, it is far easier to walk down to your local bar, chat to your local friends, and get whatever one could need within minutes, at leas this is the case in most cities around the world, in my experience, and is certainly true of London. No shootings, no stabbings (sure they happen, usually gang related/organised crime)

 In my local area, and all over London and much of the U.K to be honest the police, do not care much about use, and less and less about low level distributors, unless they fall into their laps, which they often do. The government may say in public that they care, but they seem to have gone so far off the boil in that respect that it is laughable, and also they really do know that in 100% of the bars and restaurants and clubs in London, drugs are freely available pretty much every night of the week, these people are not even hiding,  and more to the point in London now, from the dustman, to the judge, to the doctor, to the police officer , to the office worker, from the working class the middle class and to the rich , drugs are everywhere, and I mean everywhere. In the UK there is very little social stigma attached anymore to the issue (behind closed doors)

The reality of it is drug use will slowly become decriminalised and reclassified and replaced by education, controls, production and taxing. And after all why not, it is the only thing that will work in reducing the harm that goes hand in hand with the illegal global drug trade. It will reduce crime, reduce income for organised crime, and reduce the cost on the tax payer both in terms of health and policing/incarceration, and will eventually overtime via education make drug abuse less likely/harmful.

full member
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Colletrix - Bridging the Physical and Virtual Worl
If a person was going to operate on the dark net, it would make sense to
a) never brag or talk about anything to do with it , ever , in RL, or on the internets, even using a pseudonym
b) never use any RL indentifiers ever
c) use cash bought throw away notebooks, cycle for new every x weeks
d) use TOR but also through a fresh temporary OS live install from a USB , i.e TAILs or live linux distro - close down after every use
e) never use their own internet connection or one tied to you in anyway (even better super dark satellite phone in a moving car on motorway)
f) have a distributed distribution network (the weakest point and really to pull off needs organised connections)
g) create brand names but cycle their darksite operations (better yet use openbazzar etc in future)
h) be paranoid and reclusive
i) not get involved unless they have super discipline

Congratulations, that constitutes probable cause. All your communications are now being closely followed. Jurisdiction is irrelevant. The recordings of all your phone, cell phone and internet useage during the past five years will be analyzed for possible illegal activity. You should assume that encryption provided by your VPN is backdoored.
legendary
Activity: 1680
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Have you used bitcoin before?
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1045
Bitcoin, the future of black market trade!

Because, you know, it makes perfect sense to use an "Internet cash" that can be traced to your IP address by authorities with little a lot of trouble. And then, buy drugs online and provide your post address to a central party seller, where thereby it can be easily collected once the site is busted is never found, unless they find the seller and he/she was stupid enough to leave your unencrypted address somewhere in their house.

so much wrong.

Fixed it for you.
sr. member
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If a person was going to operate on the dark net, it would make sense to

a) never brag or talk about anything to do with it , ever , in RL, or on the internets, even using a pseudonym
b) never use any RL indentifiers ever
c) use cash bought throw away notebooks, cycle for new every x weeks
d) use TOR but also through a fresh temporary OS live install from a USB , i.e TAILs or live linux distro - close down after every use
e) never use their own internet connection or one tied to you in anyway (even better super dark satellite phone in a moving car on motorway)
f) have a distributed distribution network (the weakest point and really to pull off needs organised connections)
g) create brand names but cycle their darksite operations (better yet use openbazzar etc in future)
h) be paranoid and reclusive
i) not get involved unless they have super discipline
...

j) after following (a) through (j) for any length of time, going to jail will seem like a lifestyle upgrade.

Yes dear

Are you an aging queen IRL?



Thanks for the boss opsec advice, tho.  Very valuable.  Ever thought of writing a book?
full member
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Bitcoin, the future of black market trade!

Because, you know, it makes perfect sense to use an "Internet cash" that can be traced to your IP address by authorities with little trouble. And then, buy drugs online and provide your post address to a central party, where thereby it can be easily collected once the site is busted.  Roll Eyes
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