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legendary
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Ah, this

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Well, its definitely odd.. but is it important? It looks to be someone just fluffing the volume, possibly testing a HFT bot. No fees, so its not like there are repercussions to it like on USD exchanges.

It is important when the buys and sells doesn't match with the orderbook... Isn't it? Roll Eyes

No, not really? I guess if you are a TA PRO who relies on volume as an indicator  Huh

I give a lot on volume on stamp chart... I don't see chinies exchanges as a price leader. Problem is that 70% of traders thinks chinies exchanges are reliable despite all this.

Well I dont think anyone disagrees that gauging the "real" volume by China is quite difficult. Thats why I rarely bother trying to compare it. I just think of them as equals (Huobi, Okcoin, Bitstamp, and Bitfinex) despite China having a lot more volume.

If I really want to compare, then I'd look at the orderbooks, copy it down, and compare it in future. For example, if there were 5k of bids to break 2100CNY, and 12 hours later its 4k, but there was 50k of volume... I'd consider it a lot closer to '10k real' volume than 50k. So that absurd 10k volume spike earlier? Well, its pretty much insignificant volume and can be ignored.

Likewise, if the price broke 2100CNY on 10k volume, then I'd say most of it was real.

You see this sort of activity a lot when volume dies down. The price is just as volatile with a tenth of the volume, presumably because there isnt so much "high frequency trading".  
hero member
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If we just could get MtGox back as the market leader with 70-80% of the trading volume, things would be much easier.  Grin Cheesy
Mark to the rescue?
legendary
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Ah, this



Well, its definitely odd.. but is it important? It looks to be someone just fluffing the volume, possibly testing a HFT bot. No fees, so its not like there are repercussions to it like on USD exchanges.

It is important when the buys and sells doesn't match with the orderbook... Isn't it? Roll Eyes

No, not really? I guess if you are a TA PRO who relies on volume as an indicator  Huh
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Everyone knows the chinese exchanges are suspicious.

Put they wouldn't put that much effort to make the price fall if they don't want make it rise somewhere in the future.

Would they?

Jesse Livermore once said: the only way to sell is on the way down
legendary
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10 K buy in china is big fkin SHORT in my order book.
legendary
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Ah, this

Well, its definitely odd.. but is it important? It looks to be someone just fluffing the volume, possibly testing a HFT bot. No fees, so its not like there are repercussions to it like on USD exchanges.

They drove the pullback from $340 to $355. I'm sure without okcoin buying pressure manipulation price wouldn't go that high.
legendary
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No maps for these territories
sr. member
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Everyone knows the chinese exchanges are suspicious.

Put they wouldn't put that much effort to make the price fall if they don't want make it rise somewhere in the future.

Would they?
legendary
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Ah, this



Well, its definitely odd.. but is it important? It looks to be someone just fluffing the volume, possibly testing a HFT bot. No fees, so its not like there are repercussions to it like on USD exchanges.
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donator
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Keep looking at okcoin and huobi since it is clear they are faking the volume... Example: anomalies in last two days.
Way to go.

https://i.imgur.com/EY0w31q.jpg
I see nothing odd.

I would call this at least a bit suspicious.
1min OKcoin chart.



10k+BTC volume in 7-8 min, and the price didn´t move more than 2-5 CNY. At that time there were no big sell or asks. Just dozens of 30-100BTC transactions that changed hands back and forth in lightning speed at the same price.
BTW: I have no idea if the exchange themself is doing this or (a) trader(s), i guess the latter one.
Seems legit!
hero member
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Keep looking at okcoin and huobi since it is clear they are faking the volume... Example: anomalies in last two days.
Way to go.

https://i.imgur.com/EY0w31q.jpg
I see nothing odd.

I would call this at least a bit suspicious.
1min OKcoin chart.



10k+BTC volume in 7-8 min, and the price didn´t move more than 2-5 CNY. At that time there were no big sell or asks. Just dozens of 30-100BTC transactions that changed hands back and forth in lightning speed at the same price.
BTW: I have no idea if the exchange themself is doing this or (a) trader(s), i guess the latter one. (Tyring to paint a bottom or whatever...)
legendary
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legendary
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Keep looking at okcoin and huobi since it is clear they are faking the volume... Example: anomalies in last two days.
Way to go.

I see nothing odd.

Look volume at okcoin. Opposite to other exchanges they had no major volume on last dump from $355 to $440, but they had massive buying pressure after that.
It's quite suspicious.

Price is going down under 2120 where they massively bought, and now again there is no volume. How can you explain that?

Remember they have huge farms, if they can fakeout volume and rise the price $10 or $20 before selling their coins in other exchanges... it's a great deal for them. Also for opening new shorts at higher levels...
legendary
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Keep looking at okcoin and huobi since it is clear they are faking the volume... Example: anomalies in last two days.
Way to go.



I see nothing odd.
hero member
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Ok, so I am a bear, but what the f--- are these maniac shorters doing? The shorts have been around 13,000 on BFX for several hours, the price has stabilized or gone up slightly, and the price on BFX is $3 below that of BTC-e. For a while I thought there might be a chance for a flash crash on manipulation, but we've stabilized. I can understand being wary to buy in at this point, but to have a short right now is pure f---ing madness. Who the hell wants to be in a line with 13,000 BTCs trying to close out the shorts? That's f---ing nuts.

+1
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in about 1 -2 hours the break out should happen.  It looks pretty bullish to me.



If you're just looking to buy and hold, you probably should not be using 15 minute charts.

I do a bit of everything. But i'm using the 15 min to show when the ext big movement will come.   And it will come in in the next hour or so imho Wink

Triangle has broken and price is going down.

Yep just like the last time went it broke out bullish but then dumped..  funny that. 

Rinse,  then massive bullish volume. 
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legendary
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Pain incoming.

One's pain is another's delight.

Until we break below 266 I'm still of the opinion that as low as possible for as long as possible is the best path forward for bitcoin. Adoption and price are tied at the hip, and mass adoption is not possible until the infrastructure is in place to such a level that bitcoin is actually easier than traditional methods. The masses don't care about fundamentals or obscure charges that are hidden in the background, they care about ease of use.

If the price could just stay below 800 until 2016, that'd be great, thanks.

(Of course if we break below 266, then I don't know what the fuck is going on and all bets are off.)
legendary
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Up or down. Definitely
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