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hero member
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will probably not even get to 390...

you spoke too soon

i didn't expect someone to leverage short 750 coins right now...lol

but it's fine...we'll be up anyway

Does leveraged short mean the exchanges are lending them money??

In a way. It means that the exchange gives them bitcoins e.g. give the exchange 1 bitcoin and they give you 10 (or 20 or 50, depending how much leverage you have).
They then dump these coins straight onto the market and try to rebuy cheaper. When they re-buy they can sell back to the exchange and pocket the difference.
There was a lot of money being made doing this all the way down from $600.

Now the price is going back up and the shorts forgot to buy back in. They are now being forced to buy back in but some brave souls are trying to dump more to stop the rise. Shit's getting real. Let's hope the exchange didn't get greedy either and lend more than they can get back!

This is the true meaning of sharks

I just learned what a short was last night, and to be honest, thats one hell of a risk if you ask me.
hero member
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This market is broken.
legendary
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holy crap.. surprised none of you have cross posted this here yet.. Shocked

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-13/what-happens-when-someone-desperate-sell-750-million-stocks


Relevance to bitcoin wall observer?

It is the same guy that crashed the price to 102 on btc-e.
legendary
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Personally, I believe that bitcoin is NOT going to win in the short-term merely on it's payment system and low costs (though in the long run, bitcoin will provide a lot of competition regarding costs), and more savvy persons (like you and me and several other bullish-oriented posters in this thread) are going to realize that bitcoin holds much more value (than centralized systems, such as apple pay) because of its decentrailzation, flexibility and its store of value and we are NOT (hopefully) going to get distracted by mere ease of use framings... even though many of us alsolikely wished that BTC were easier to use in a variety of ways (yet we understand that ease of use will likely improve with time).

Totally agree

He's good at the analysis
sr. member
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Personally, I believe that bitcoin is NOT going to win in the short-term merely on it's payment system and low costs (though in the long run, bitcoin will provide a lot of competition regarding costs), and more savvy persons (like you and me and several other bullish-oriented posters in this thread) are going to realize that bitcoin holds much more value (than centralized systems, such as apple pay) because of its decentrailzation, flexibility and its store of value and we are NOT (hopefully) going to get distracted by mere ease of use framings... even though many of us alsolikely wished that BTC were easier to use in a variety of ways (yet we understand that ease of use will likely improve with time).

Totally agree
legendary
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The West has left the Bitcoin price in a good place for today.

China, over to you. Don't fuck it up.
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legendary
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legendary
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Time to reel some more shorts in before the next pump. Smiley
hero member
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will probably not even get to 390...

you spoke too soon

i didn't expect someone to leverage short 750 coins right now...lol

but it's fine...we'll be up anyway

Does leveraged short mean the exchanges are lending them money??

they lend bitcoins to short Smiley

Ohhhh. Well there is the problem right there isn't it Angry

It works the other way as well. They can lend you $ to buy more BTC than you could afford. You might even buy more BTC by keeping some BTC there, effectively harvesting more BTC on a way up (like now - well, at least up to 400 an who knows from here...) thus you might end up with BTC + extra $ or even BTC + BTC (you can automatically buy BTC for the $ you earned).
hero member
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will probably not even get to 390...

you spoke too soon

i didn't expect someone to leverage short 750 coins right now...lol

but it's fine...we'll be up anyway

Does leveraged short mean the exchanges are lending them money??

they lend bitcoins to short Smiley

Technically they are lending other people's bitcoins, and the lenders are making interest.
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legendary
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legendary
Activity: 1260
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will probably not even get to 390...

you spoke too soon

i didn't expect someone to leverage short 750 coins right now...lol

but it's fine...we'll be up anyway

Does leveraged short mean the exchanges are lending them money??

they lend bitcoins to short Smiley

Ohhhh. Well there is the problem right there isn't it Angry
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
will probably not even get to 390...

you spoke too soon

i didn't expect someone to leverage short 750 coins right now...lol

but it's fine...we'll be up anyway

Does leveraged short mean the exchanges are lending them money??

they lend bitcoins to short Smiley
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 500
will probably not even get to 390...

you spoke too soon

i didn't expect someone to leverage short 750 coins right now...lol

but it's fine...we'll be up anyway

Does leveraged short mean the exchanges are lending them money??

In a way. It means that the exchange gives them bitcoins e.g. give the exchange 1 bitcoin and they give you 10 (or 20 or 50, depending how much leverage you have).
They then dump these coins straight onto the market and try to rebuy cheaper. When they re-buy they can sell back to the exchange and pocket the difference.
There was a lot of money being made doing this all the way down from $600.

Now the price is going back up and the shorts forgot to buy back in. They are now being forced to buy back in but some brave souls are trying to dump more to stop the rise. Shit's getting real. Let's hope the exchange didn't get greedy either and lend more than they can get back!

This is the true meaning of sharks
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1116
will probably not even get to 390...

you spoke too soon

i didn't expect someone to leverage short 750 coins right now...lol

but it's fine...we'll be up anyway

Does leveraged short mean the exchanges are lending them money??
newbie
Activity: 31
Merit: 0
We passed 400 finally. I'm expecting uptrend for short term.
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