The market is 90% manipulation. It's ridiculous. Bitcoin turned into a pump and dump as we've seen with the tons of alt shitcoins.
Fcking traders. They are Bitcoin's cancer.
Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 25081. (Read 26709104 times)
October 13, 2014, 12:32:25 PM
October 13, 2014, 12:29:33 PM
Apparently the idiot ChiComs haven't mastered the art of this whole "buy low sell high" thing. LOL. Six months from now they'll be buying back at a huge loss. Three generations of Communism has turned the highest I.Q. people in the world (edit: except for Ashkenazi Jews) into morons.
>not realising Communism is a Jewish creation
goyim pls
October 13, 2014, 12:27:05 PM
All you Apple haters - are you jealous or afraid 
It's one thing to disagree, but there has to be a reason for the hate.
It's one thing to disagree, but there has to be a reason for the hate.
Apple haters? Here?
There are certainly people who pity gullible Apple owners around here. Perhaps there are some who hate Apple for taking advantage of those who pay a premium for inferior products but that's like hating Mcdonalds for taking advantage of those who choose to pay more for a Happy Meal than for healthy food from a family-owned restaurant. If a person decides to pay more for less, that's his/her business. Don't blame the showman for fleecing the rube.
Here in Bitcoinland some still dislike Apple for pulling all Bitcoin-related programs from their "Apps" store, although that foolish decision has been rescinded.
I don't think anyone is jealous or fearful. Hate is definitely too strong a word.
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Full disclosure: My only Apple PC is a Hackintosh Asus EeePC901 running OSX Snow Leopard. I haven't bothered with it in years.
I do however own an iPad Mini with "Retina" display which I find to be almost unusable. You can't connect it to a USB port of a PC without an overpriced proprietary cable. Even when it's connected, you cant transfer files to the internal storage (no SD slot) without installing malware called iTunes and connecting to the internet.
You can't install any software (including free) without signing up for an Apple account, disclosing personal information and giving them a credit card number.
My Sony Xperia Z Ultra Android device (I can't call it a phone because I didn't put in a SIM card) just plain works. It is fully anonymous and it didn't even need to be rooted like my almost-as-crappy-as-Apple Nexus7. I can download APK files on a PC, transfer them through a normal USB cable to my Xperia and install them without ever going to "Play" store or even signing up for some sleazy Google account. It's everything the iPad isn't.
TL;DR - Apple sux.
October 13, 2014, 12:25:04 PM
+1
Seems like the troll-box over at BTC-e moved over here.. FUD seems to be the new cool.. Where are the serious posters? Why is it only gambling Chinese talking nonsense about predictions and such.. This is just turning in to a bullshit thread.
October 13, 2014, 12:21:01 PM
October 13, 2014, 12:18:32 PM
October 13, 2014, 12:17:19 PM
Today we learned a great lesson. If you want to manipulate the market down... Put the ask wall on Huobi.
Doesn't work so well in USD markets. ( the bulls eat you alive! )
Doesn't work so well in USD markets. ( the bulls eat you alive! )
October 13, 2014, 12:16:49 PM
dat wall
October 13, 2014, 12:16:34 PM
another fakeout.
but hey, fonzie, we can still profit.
but hey, fonzie, we can still profit.
Profit like a MF. Today is a good day. I don´t think that it is a fakeout, people told me the same yesterday @370$, but we will see.
I went long 10x @360$ with 35 BTC collateral
I think we will grind up slowly to 390-400$, after that we will probably see a nice candle to 420+$
Happy trading to you. May the money flow( into our pockets)
1) Posters aren't really disclosing their actual leveraged positions, are they?
2) seems less than smart to leverage either direction unless you have insider information
Why not? Is a whale really gonna dump just to fuck fonzie over?
Who knows what the fuck whales base their decisions upon, exactly?
I would NOT share this kind of specific information... until maybe after it has played out...
October 13, 2014, 12:15:02 PM
ok im about to do a €20k consumption loan to buy btc...
I want moarrrr MOarrrr MOARRRRR
I want moarrrr MOarrrr MOARRRRR
October 13, 2014, 12:13:40 PM
another fakeout.
but hey, fonzie, we can still profit.
but hey, fonzie, we can still profit.
Profit like a MF. Today is a good day. I don´t think that it is a fakeout, people told me the same yesterday @370$, but we will see.
I went long 10x @360$ with 35 BTC collateral
I think we will grind up slowly to 390-400$, after that we will probably see a nice candle to 420+$
Happy trading to you. May the money flow( into our pockets)
1) Posters aren't really disclosing their actual leveraged positions, are they?
2) seems less than smart to leverage either direction unless you have insider information
Why not? Is a whale really gonna dump just to fuck fonzie over?
There are at least 2 30k+BTC whales watching my posts all day just to fuck me over.
I know it, i can feel em right behind me.
were i a big enough whale, i totally would do this kind of thing, just to screw with you guys in this thread.
October 13, 2014, 12:08:20 PM
another fakeout.
but hey, fonzie, we can still profit.
but hey, fonzie, we can still profit.
Profit like a MF. Today is a good day. I don´t think that it is a fakeout, people told me the same yesterday @370$, but we will see.
I went long 10x @360$ with 35 BTC collateral
I think we will grind up slowly to 390-400$, after that we will probably see a nice candle to 420+$
Happy trading to you. May the money flow( into our pockets)
1) Posters aren't really disclosing their actual leveraged positions, are they?
2) seems less than smart to leverage either direction unless you have insider information
Why not? Is a whale really gonna dump just to fuck fonzie over?
There are at least 2 30k+BTC whales watching my posts all day just to fuck me over.
I know it, i can feel em right behind me.
October 13, 2014, 12:02:46 PM
Just got home and stamp back at 380. Upward pressure continues.
October 13, 2014, 12:01:34 PM
another fakeout.
but hey, fonzie, we can still profit.
but hey, fonzie, we can still profit.
Profit like a MF. Today is a good day. I don´t think that it is a fakeout, people told me the same yesterday @370$, but we will see.
I went long 10x @360$ with 35 BTC collateral
I think we will grind up slowly to 390-400$, after that we will probably see a nice candle to 420+$
Happy trading to you. May the money flow( into our pockets)
1) Posters aren't really disclosing their actual leveraged positions, are they?
2) seems less than smart to leverage either direction unless you have insider information
Why not? Is a whale really gonna dump just to fuck fonzie over?
October 13, 2014, 12:00:58 PM
October 13, 2014, 12:00:01 PM
another fakeout.
but hey, fonzie, we can still profit.
but hey, fonzie, we can still profit.
Profit like a MF. Today is a good day. I don´t think that it is a fakeout, people told me the same yesterday @370$, but we will see.
I went long 10x @360$ with 35 BTC collateral
I think we will grind up slowly to 390-400$, after that we will probably see a nice candle to 420+$
Happy trading to you. May the money flow( into our pockets)
1) Posters aren't really disclosing their actual leveraged positions, are they?
2) seems less than smart to leverage either direction unless you have insider information
October 13, 2014, 11:55:35 AM
WTF was that?!?!?!? Is Condesk hacked or something....seriously WTF?
Let's hack this shit !
Stupid Apple fanboys never learn. First their pictures, now their money.
speaking of hacking, just saw great gif yesterday
http://www.killthehydra.com/wp-content/uploads/anonymous-mom-gif.gif
mommy! LEAVE ME ALONE !!!
>> i'm watching bitcoin on the internet! LOLOL
October 13, 2014, 11:51:01 AM
Apparently the idiot ChiComs haven't mastered the art of this whole "buy low sell high" thing. LOL. Six months from now they'll be buying back at a huge loss. Three generations of Communism has turned the highest I.Q. people in the world (edit: except for Ashkenazi Jews) into morons.
October 13, 2014, 11:50:44 AM
WTF was that?!?!?!? Is Condesk hacked or something....seriously WTF?
Let's hack this shit !
Stupid Apple fanboys never learn. First their pictures, now their money.
speaking of hacking, just saw great gif yesterday
Is that you, NotLambchops?
October 13, 2014, 11:37:11 AM
What about you Octaft? You want to chime into the discussion to attempt to arm chair psychologize based on incomplete information or describing the situation of others without revealing your own details?
Are you buying, selling, holding or what? Do you have any BTC? or are you waiting for BTC prices to sink to lower levels? What has been your philosophy and practice regarding BTC? Have you been able to follow it? Has the market gone how you have predicted? Do you bang only 10s?
Are you buying, selling, holding or what? Do you have any BTC? or are you waiting for BTC prices to sink to lower levels? What has been your philosophy and practice regarding BTC? Have you been able to follow it? Has the market gone how you have predicted? Do you bang only 10s?
From Oct 6th:
Pretty sure he's spreading around the wealth so he can
1) get more money to give support if the price continues to drop
2) buy more bitcoins at this price, in the event he was the one selling us down and has a lot of money already and
3) perhaps entice big players who see this action to come along and buy, thus giving more people with lots of cash the incentive to help him keep the price up. If they enter, expect a nice run-up. If they don't, expect a rise followed by a drop when the whale recognizes this fact, and needs to take profit so he can prepare to defend at a lower price. He makes money all the way, and if the price skyrockets, well I'm sure the dude would rather have 15k bitcoins at $2000 than 30k bitcoins at $200.
Seems bullish to me, and quite generous of him to leave the wall there and give others a chance to buy. I'd buy, but I'm just some ahole on the internet, so listen to me at your own risk. After all, I could be back here in a few weeks saying "whoops!"
1) get more money to give support if the price continues to drop
2) buy more bitcoins at this price, in the event he was the one selling us down and has a lot of money already and
3) perhaps entice big players who see this action to come along and buy, thus giving more people with lots of cash the incentive to help him keep the price up. If they enter, expect a nice run-up. If they don't, expect a rise followed by a drop when the whale recognizes this fact, and needs to take profit so he can prepare to defend at a lower price. He makes money all the way, and if the price skyrockets, well I'm sure the dude would rather have 15k bitcoins at $2000 than 30k bitcoins at $200.
Seems bullish to me, and quite generous of him to leave the wall there and give others a chance to buy. I'd buy, but I'm just some ahole on the internet, so listen to me at your own risk. After all, I could be back here in a few weeks saying "whoops!"
Obviously if I said it seems bullish, I bought, right into that wall. I have a target for this run-up, which I will not disclose but at which point I will start taking profit (I kind of already am, but still holding a reasonable chunk of what I bought). I do not think we are out of the bear market yet, although there is a greater than 0 chance that we are heading out of it. If we break-out after I sell, I can always take a small loss and rebuy.
I believe I posted something on here around $800-900 urging people to exercise caution, but -- as I expected -- nobody listened. I sold most of what I had around that time, because people I have known for years who never gave a shit about bitcoin started asking me if they should get in, so I told them "dear god no you missed this train sit it out!" and used that as an indication that I should sell. There was also a (popular?) internet bitcoin market analyst who was calling for a potential 3200 top, which suggested to me we hit "new paradigm." I held onto a little bit, of course, and that's an amount I'll take to the grave or to a million, because I like bitcoin and don't want to be all the way out. I also watched the trading very closing during that time, and noticed that nobody was really buying once we broke over 1000. I could have been wrong, and I might have missed out on a nice chunk, but I figured hey, you know, let's not be too greedy.
Before I make myself sound like a genius, I also hedged my bets by selling small portions on the way up. The bulk was sold 50-150 from the top or so. I do this both ways to divest myself and help keep emotions out of my decisions.
When I made that comment to chessnut about "well I think you got your bearish sentiment now" a while back on that last drop to 350 (the one before the drop to 275), that was my hint that I was buying. I sold a bit too soon on that one, but hey, profit is profit.
Just because I don't shout my opinion to the rooftops to make sure everyone heard it, doesn't mean I'm not sharing. You've just got to pay attention, man. I generally trade big moves; I don't really day trade much, although occasionally I will use sentiment to try to catch falling knives and tops. This last purchase however was basely solely on my confidence in upward manipulation by that big wall that the guy was obviously going to buy out (at least a decent portion of) himself, and he would be okay with selling the rest to others for the reasons I quoted.
If you look back, notice how a few days later I mention that there had been little buying pressure, then suddenly once a 30k wall shows up, magically "everyone" is buying.
Well thanks for "sharing" that information, yet to me, your overall sentiment seems to retain an air of competition... and your making a comment about my supposedly being bitter suggest that I am in a similar competitive / one-up-manship mindset as you, which I doubt.
Surely, posters are here in this thread for varying reasons and into bitcoin for various reasons, and I attempt to share my thoughts and to read the contributions of others (to the extent that I perceive them to be contributions or to the extent that I feel that I have time to read and absorb "contributions"). Some posters receive greater credence in my assessment than others - and each of us will come to our own conclusions in regard to who we read, how much we read and how and when we invest into BTC, if at all.
As I mentioned several times, we cannot necessarily judge the BTC investment decisions of others unless we sufficiently know a variety of factors including their timeline, risk tolerances, view of probabilities, finances available for BTC investing, other non-BTC financial investments, personal goals and objectives, etc.
It is my sense that thread of discussion that we are having at the moment here began mostly with tone, rather than actual facts, and your seeming need to chime in to the discussion in order to engage in name-calling.
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