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Quote from: tarmi on October 10, 2014, 05:22:28 AM

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someone said cup and handle yesterday...

a down correction was inevitable...the questions were: when, how deep, how fast....because of the quick rise we had a sharp fall (bids were not following fast enough)...consolidation seems to be over soon...

if it would have been "the dumper"..we would have seen much bigger dumps....it was just market...and market wants to rise soon

in the trading emotion cycle we are somewhere around hope/doubt

He didn't dump more. Usually between 800-1000.

this makes no sense...he could have made much more if he dumped more...we also would be at 200 if "the dumper" really wants to...

makes perfectly sense because when we were at 680 with 30 K dump we would go straight to 0.

and why should he dump 30k again if way less would do the same job?...this is just fear spreading...if someone really wants us down there...we would be there already...

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Quote from: razorramon on October 10, 2014, 05:18:46 AM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 10, 2014, 05:14:08 AM

Quote from: razorramon on October 10, 2014, 05:04:47 AM

someone said cup and handle yesterday...

a down correction was inevitable...the questions were: when, how deep, how fast....because of the quick rise we had a sharp fall (bids were not following fast enough)...consolidation seems to be over soon...

if it would have been "the dumper"..we would have seen much bigger dumps....it was just market...and market wants to rise soon

in the trading emotion cycle we are somewhere around hope/doubt

He didn't dump more. Usually between 800-1000.

this makes no sense...he could have made much more if he dumped more...we also would be at 200 if "the dumper" really wants to...

it's not always a conspiracy ... and if you love conspiracies so much you could read into: kobane, ukraine crisis, wtc or whatever suits you

I stay far away from conspiracies. No idea why you suggest i would like conspiracies. Don't be stupid. All i'm saying is i see the same dumps as i've been seeing the last few months and they took us down. And will do so again.
Or they are just traders. Then you can thank the fucking traders for once again screwing up the market and stopping new people from buying.

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Quote from: FNG on October 10, 2014, 05:09:01 AM

Free money on bitfinex for anyone with deep pockets and a large pile of BTC.

Place a very high ask..market buy 10k. Margins calls will make you several million $'s and a pile of btc

50 people who are prepared to risk 30btc (to open position 3:1 = 90btc) can turn this around... Who is in? Grin

would be amazing to see...could ignite a temporary chain reaction with a ping pong over a huge price range

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Quote from: razorramon on October 10, 2014, 05:18:46 AM

Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 10, 2014, 05:14:08 AM

Quote from: razorramon on October 10, 2014, 05:04:47 AM

someone said cup and handle yesterday...

a down correction was inevitable...the questions were: when, how deep, how fast....because of the quick rise we had a sharp fall (bids were not following fast enough)...consolidation seems to be over soon...

if it would have been "the dumper"..we would have seen much bigger dumps....it was just market...and market wants to rise soon

in the trading emotion cycle we are somewhere around hope/doubt

He didn't dump more. Usually between 800-1000.

this makes no sense...he could have made much more if he dumped more...we also would be at 200 if "the dumper" really wants to...

makes perfectly sense because when we were at 680 with 30 K dump we would go straight to 0.

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Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 10, 2014, 05:14:08 AM

Quote from: razorramon on October 10, 2014, 05:04:47 AM

someone said cup and handle yesterday...

a down correction was inevitable...the questions were: when, how deep, how fast....because of the quick rise we had a sharp fall (bids were not following fast enough)...consolidation seems to be over soon...

if it would have been "the dumper"..we would have seen much bigger dumps....it was just market...and market wants to rise soon

in the trading emotion cycle we are somewhere around hope/doubt

He didn't dump more. Usually between 800-1000.

this makes no sense...he could have made much more if he dumped more...we also would be at 200 if "the dumper" really wants to...

it's not always a conspiracy ... and if you love conspiracies so much you could read into: kobane, ukraine crisis, wtc or whatever suits you

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I think today the stock markets will go down significantly.

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Quote from: razorramon on October 10, 2014, 05:04:47 AM

someone said cup and handle yesterday...

a down correction was inevitable...the questions were: when, how deep, how fast....because of the quick rise we had a sharp fall (bids were not following fast enough)...consolidation seems to be over soon...

if it would have been "the dumper"..we would have seen much bigger dumps....it was just market...and market wants to rise soon

in the trading emotion cycle we are somewhere around hope/doubt

He didn't dump more. Usually between 800-1000.

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Dr. Bearwahl has around 7m USD. Perhaps he should buy now.

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Quote from: FNG on October 10, 2014, 05:09:01 AM

Free money on bitfinex for anyone with deep pockets and a large pile of BTC.

Place a very high ask..market buy 10k. Margins calls will make you several million $'s and a pile of btc

i was also thinking that something like this could happen...

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Free money on bitfinex for anyone with deep pockets and a large pile of BTC.

Place a very high ask..market buy 10k. Margins calls will make you several million $'s and a pile of btc

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someone said cup and handle yesterday...

a down correction was inevitable...the questions were: when, how deep, how fast....because of the quick rise we had a sharp fall (bids were not following fast enough)...consolidation seems to be over soon...

if it would have been "the dumper"..we would have seen much bigger dumps....it was just market...and market wants to rise soon

in the trading emotion cycle we are somewhere around hope/doubt

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Quote from: tarmi on October 10, 2014, 04:42:07 AM

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Bitfinex spikes to a new high. 14,384 btc short

Grin

Going to be epic

did to anyone occur that he who is opening those short knows what is he doing?

If they know what they're doing they've got way bigger balls than me

What happens if a large buyers steps up and forces margin calls?

they dont need to have bigger balls -> just insiders info.

Wink

insiders info directly from the CEO of bitcoin?

Wink

no, directly from mr 30 k guy who is btw raping stamp's order book since july.

NOW, you are engaging in near total speculation, here, Tarmi. I doubt that you have any real direct evidence that there is only one guy responsible for downward price manipulation. Sure it is plausible, but what is the evidence, beyond your merely baldly asserting such?

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Quote from: 600watt on October 10, 2014, 04:39:09 AM

money moving towards alts is getting less:

Quote from: cypherdoc on October 07, 2014, 12:11:21 PM

nice graph from Pantera. Bitcoin continuing to gain on altscams:

https://cdn.panteracapital.com/wp-content/uploads/Pantera-Bitcoin-Letter-September-2014.pdf

Yeah, it's a good thing. But keep in mind that this graph goes from 86% to 100%, and thus looks a tad biased. I.e. the money in alts hasn't halved or anything. We're talking about a 1/10 of all crypto to begin with. Still a good thing.

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Quote from: ShroomsKit on October 10, 2014, 04:59:39 AM

And another 900 coins. Everyone still in denial here? The uptrend is over.

Thank god there are such things as shorting :^)

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And another 900 coins. Everyone still in denial here? The uptrend is over.

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could btc/usd prices be impacted by cryptsys huge volume of XRP markets ? and would altcoins help or make it worse for the growth of BTC/USD?

The altcoins that come to mind that seek larger speculation of growth like Coin Magi (XMG), Primecoin (XPM), Peercoin (PPC) ..?

DOGE is a pretty big one

its hard to say exactly how it these alts effect he BTC market

but the idea that BTC is needed to bid in these markets is rather bullish for BTC.

Alts have diluted capital flow into BTC. Perhaps just fool's money, but imagine if all the cash that went into DOGE et al. went into BTC.

money moving towards alts is getting less:

Quote from: cypherdoc on October 07, 2014, 12:11:21 PM

nice graph from Pantera. Bitcoin continuing to gain on altscams:

https://cdn.panteracapital.com/wp-content/uploads/Pantera-Bitcoin-Letter-September-2014.pdf

YES!!! That is certainly an interesting trend, when some people try to give so much importance to the supposed dynamic of alts stealing away market cap from BTC, when we look more closely at the facts, the story seems to be quite to the contrary... alts are proliferating and so far pretty much stealing from each other rather than from bitcoin b/c as a whole bitcoin is NOT losing market share to such alts. NOW again, that is a good metric to monitor b/c it could change in a year or so or somewhere down the line some of the alts may begin to take some market share from BTC.

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14,428 shorties continue to pile on.

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Quote from: ImI on October 10, 2014, 04:36:48 AM

Quote from: tarmi on October 10, 2014, 04:35:48 AM

Quote from: FNG on October 10, 2014, 04:21:17 AM

Quote from: tarmi on October 10, 2014, 04:13:48 AM

Quote from: FNG on October 10, 2014, 03:50:17 AM

Bitfinex spikes to a new high. 14,384 btc short

Grin

Going to be epic

did to anyone occur that he who is opening those short knows what is he doing?

If they know what they're doing they've got way bigger balls than me

What happens if a large buyers steps up and forces margin calls?

they dont need to have bigger balls -> just insiders info.

Wink

insiders info directly from the CEO of bitcoin?

Wink

Or enough coins either in their disposal or disposal of someone(s) else to feel fairly confident that either they or their associates have the power and/or resolve to sufficiently move the price in one direction or another. They may miscalculate the strength of the other side though.. that is if the other side is mustering up a defense.. and that seems to be be kind of what has been happening in the past few weeks.. there seems to be less willingness of some of the bulls to tolerate continued downward movement of the BTC prices and some bulls are getting anxious for some upward price movement.... but still the bulls may NOT have enough resolve to really fight the downward price direction if they feel sufficiently confident that they will be able to move BTC prices up again if and when needed.

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