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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 25269. (Read 26608375 times)
October 05, 2014, 05:40:00 PM
October 05, 2014, 05:39:51 PM
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October 05, 2014, 05:39:15 PM
There's a premium that would need to be paid for someone to acquire 30K.. look at the USMS Auction. To show a 30K wall would be completely stupid unless, of course, it's just designed to scare people. It's working.
And yet nobody wants to buy it
Ex-fuggin-zactly. No one wants this shit. You wanted cheap coins? Here they are! No? You wont buy until $274? Oh ok. Tomorrow: $260. Oh, you wont buy until $259?
Oh, you are actually just a desperate bulltard trying to pretend these prices are sooooooo low and the steal of a lifetime... all the way from $600? Eat shit.
I'm not buying, I haven't bought this year, and I don't remember saying that these prices are the steal of a lifetime. Be civil or "eat shit" yourself.
My post wasnt directed at you, its directed at the same people who keep saying every price is the bottom.. for the last $300 of price dropping.
Duly noted, and agreed with.
October 05, 2014, 05:39:10 PM
Doesn't look like 300 will hold on stamp
So before I go to sleep.
What does everyone think is the motivation for this guy sticking 27000 bitcoins in a big ask wall?
Is he trying to stifle any move upwards (otc sale perhaps?) or encourage panic selling into bid walls that belong to him further down so he can accumulate coins?
Or is this a bearish guy who simply wants to sell his coins. 27k seems ludicrously excessive and a terrible way of going about selling.
Theories?
I guess he/they simple wants sell. Maybe speculated for a double bottom and failed. Now he wants to take the ~9,000,000 USD leave the game. I think: it's an offer, not bearish, not bullish, a simple offer.
It's bearish only in the sense that it invalidates all the "big players are paying premium prices, buying OTC to avoid slippage."
Only if it sells..
Actually, just the opposite. The wall being bought would mean that big players do want to buy large quantities without slippage.
Seriously. I´m sure all of the big players that are interested in buying huge chunks have 10 Mio+ laying around on Bitstamp (and on every other exchange to be sure) sitting in front of their computer24/7, just in case someone puts up a 30k BTC wall... And it´s weekend btw.
That wall has been around for a few hours on a Sunday. we´ll see how much longer it stays.
You trade large amounts without your cell ringing when the price hits your mark?
And you think it's some minnow risking 27k coin on a Sunday?
ehh, i was sarcastic about the part that people have millions of USD on every exchange just in case a opportunity arises to buy huge sum of coins without slippage.
Yes, sure. But there was NO volume buying into the wall. This would have to mean that the big guys have NO fiat on exchanges. If that's the case, why?
Could be that it is because big guys love money and bitcoin exchanges this year(and before) havent´t been proven to be very reliable??
Small fishes are too scared too buy in a wall that big(especially after the last months that weren´t too promising about the start of an upcmoing bull trend(e.g. paypal trap), but would probably follow when the first 40-50% have been munched.
October 05, 2014, 05:38:49 PM
Some trolls here still try to deny that he is using the oldest trick ever aka buy everything up below your sell wall...
A lot of people/trolls here probably don't even know such a trick exists.
October 05, 2014, 05:38:04 PM
There's a premium that would need to be paid for someone to acquire 30K.. look at the USMS Auction. To show a 30K wall would be completely stupid unless, of course, it's just designed to scare people. It's working.
And yet nobody wants to buy it
Ex-fuggin-zactly. No one wants this shit. You wanted cheap coins? Here they are! No? You wont buy until $274? Oh ok. Tomorrow: $260. Oh, you wont buy until $259?
Oh, you are actually just a desperate bulltard trying to pretend these prices are sooooooo low and the steal of a lifetime... all the way from $600? Eat shit.
I'm not buying, I haven't bought this year, and I don't remember saying that these prices are the steal of a lifetime. Be civil or "eat shit" yourself.
My post wasnt directed at you, its directed at the same people who keep saying every price is the bottom.. for the last $300 of price dropping.
October 05, 2014, 05:37:50 PM
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October 05, 2014, 05:36:01 PM
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October 05, 2014, 05:35:56 PM
Yes, sure. But there was NO volume buying into the wall. This would have to mean that the big guys have NO fiat on exchanges. If that's the case, why?
theres one simple answer: trust, or rather the lack of it.
October 05, 2014, 05:34:59 PM
Whoever owns that wall probably has inside info about fiat that just landed on the exchange but sits offbook. Pulling the wall causes a short term spike, tempting fiat to move onbook.
October 05, 2014, 05:34:05 PM
There's a premium that would need to be paid for someone to acquire 30K.. look at the USMS Auction. To show a 30K wall would be completely stupid unless, of course, it's just designed to scare people. It's working.
And yet nobody wants to buy it
Ex-fuggin-zactly. No one wants this shit. You wanted cheap coins? Here they are! No? You wont buy until $274? Oh ok. Tomorrow: $260. Oh, you wont buy until $259?
Oh, you are actually just a desperate bulltard trying to pretend these prices are sooooooo low and the steal of a lifetime... all the way from $600? Eat shit.
I'm not buying, I haven't bought this year, and I don't remember saying that these prices are the steal of a lifetime. Be civil or "eat shit" yourself.
October 05, 2014, 05:32:16 PM
Doesn't look like 300 will hold on stamp
So before I go to sleep.
What does everyone think is the motivation for this guy sticking 27000 bitcoins in a big ask wall?
Is he trying to stifle any move upwards (otc sale perhaps?) or encourage panic selling into bid walls that belong to him further down so he can accumulate coins?
Or is this a bearish guy who simply wants to sell his coins. 27k seems ludicrously excessive and a terrible way of going about selling.
Theories?
I guess he/they simple wants sell. Maybe speculated for a double bottom and failed. Now he wants to take the ~9,000,000 USD leave the game. I think: it's an offer, not bearish, not bullish, a simple offer.
It's bearish only in the sense that it invalidates all the "big players are paying premium prices, buying OTC to avoid slippage."
Only if it sells..
Actually, just the opposite. The wall being bought would mean that big players do want to buy large quantities without slippage.
Seriously. I´m sure all of the big players that are interested in buying huge chunks have 10 Mio+ laying around on Bitstamp (and on every other exchange to be sure) sitting in front of their computer24/7, just in case someone puts up a 30k BTC wall... And it´s weekend btw.
That wall has been around for a few hours on a Sunday. we´ll see how much longer it stays.
You trade large amounts without your cell ringing when the price hits your mark?
And you think it's some minnow risking 27k coin on a Sunday?
ehh, i was sarcastic about the part that people have millions of USD on every exchange just in case a opportunity arises to buy huge sum of coins without slippage.
Yes, sure. But there was NO volume buying into the wall. This would have to mean that the big guys have NO fiat on exchanges. If that's the case, why?
October 05, 2014, 05:29:26 PM
Battle of the manipulators? 
The instant the wall was pulled, BFX went nuts. It wasnt the other way around.
At first I though the price started to rise on BFX and the wall guy removed it.. which would lead me to believe it was fake, but that is not the case.
He might have been moving it down and now is confused as the price just shot up.
The instant the wall was pulled, BFX went nuts. It wasnt the other way around.
At first I though the price started to rise on BFX and the wall guy removed it.. which would lead me to believe it was fake, but that is not the case.
He might have been moving it down and now is confused as the price just shot up.
October 05, 2014, 05:28:53 PM
Some trolls here still try to deny that he is using the oldest trick ever aka buy everything up below your sell wall...
October 05, 2014, 05:28:51 PM
Well it seems to me that that wall did it's job.
We seemed to bounce back. From 276 to above 320. Then he sold and put up a giant wall to prevent further recovery.
Thanks a lot.
We seemed to bounce back. From 276 to above 320. Then he sold and put up a giant wall to prevent further recovery.
Thanks a lot.
It does not mean a lot. Could start to sell a part, move it down...next hours/days will show.
October 05, 2014, 05:28:09 PM
October 05, 2014, 05:28:03 PM
Now a 25k buy takes us to $1100 
October 05, 2014, 05:27:57 PM
Doesn't look like 300 will hold on stamp
So before I go to sleep.
What does everyone think is the motivation for this guy sticking 27000 bitcoins in a big ask wall?
Is he trying to stifle any move upwards (otc sale perhaps?) or encourage panic selling into bid walls that belong to him further down so he can accumulate coins?
Or is this a bearish guy who simply wants to sell his coins. 27k seems ludicrously excessive and a terrible way of going about selling.
Theories?
I guess he/they simple wants sell. Maybe speculated for a double bottom and failed. Now he wants to take the ~9,000,000 USD leave the game. I think: it's an offer, not bearish, not bullish, a simple offer.
It's bearish only in the sense that it invalidates all the "big players are paying premium prices, buying OTC to avoid slippage."
Only if it sells..
Actually, just the opposite. The wall being bought would mean that big players do want to buy large quantities without slippage.
Seriously. I´m sure all of the big players that are interested in buying huge chunks have 10 Mio+ laying around on Bitstamp (and on every other exchange to be sure) sitting in front of their computer24/7, just in case someone puts up a 30k BTC wall... And it´s weekend btw.
That wall has been around for a few hours on a Sunday. we´ll see how much longer it stays.
You trade large amounts without your cell ringing when the price hits your mark?
And you think it's some minnow risking 27k coin on a Sunday?
ehh, i was sarcastic about the part that people have millions of USD on every exchange just in case a opportunity arises to buy a huge sum of coins without slippage.
October 05, 2014, 05:27:31 PM
Doesn't look like 300 will hold on stamp
So before I go to sleep.
What does everyone think is the motivation for this guy sticking 27000 bitcoins in a big ask wall?
Is he trying to stifle any move upwards (otc sale perhaps?) or encourage panic selling into bid walls that belong to him further down so he can accumulate coins?
Or is this a bearish guy who simply wants to sell his coins. 27k seems ludicrously excessive and a terrible way of going about selling.
Theories?
My theorie, its some one that whants the price to go down. They are not intending to sell, otherwhise they would not have closed the sell wall and put it up higher.
And with 30k I think that they can well bring it to 100 -130 if done right.
The question is, who and why
Wild speculation would be, that the winklov brothers need more Bitcoin for there ETF. So they are trying to bring the Price down. ^^
Nigga, please. The last thing the winks are going to get involved with right now would be rampant manipulation. They don't want that etf to have any association with anything that might be construed as illeagal.
October 05, 2014, 05:27:25 PM
300-310-300 in about 5 seconds
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