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legendary
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Science is a tool, but many scientists don't use it properly and cling to their beliefs on faith alone.
It could be considered a religion in some ways. Science tries to explain the whole universe, most religions do the same. Quantum goes full circle and puts belief before creation.

Religion does it on faith. Science adapts its views based on what's observed and goes out of its way to find observations that conflict with its current understanding of the world. Not the same by a long shot.

Until your theory threatens their funding, then they refuse to consider your evidence and proceed blindly in the wrong direction.

Also, as a critically thinking Christian, my beliefs are indeed based on observation and I actively seek out new experiences that frequently force me to see the world differently.

Blind faith is an error that can be made by scientists and religious people alike.
legendary
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http://www.appsapus.com/2014/09/26/aegis-bitcoin-wallet/

look look we can make the nerdist looking watch ever too , stick it you know where apple watch.
legendary
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Science is a tool, but many scientists don't use it properly and cling to their beliefs on faith alone.
It could be considered a religion in some ways. Science tries to explain the whole universe, most religions do the same. Quantum goes full circle and puts belief before creation.

Religion does it on faith. Science adapts its views based on what's observed and goes out of its way to find observations that conflict with its current understanding of the world. Not the same by a long shot.
legendary
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There is the dilemma I guess.  Money in of itself is not evil.  The LOVE of money is evil.  Do I love money?  I think it is hard not to be tempted by the comfort it can bring for sure.  I wrestle with this.  I am going to India in six weeks and I will be hit in the face and greatly humbled by those that can live lives of complete contentment and even joy with far less than I have.  So in a way you are right.  It is an area that I probably have some issues with, especially growing up in a rich area in the United States that is surrounded by every luxury we could ever want.  

You almost sound smug beforehand, as if you're being a better person by deciding to go somewhere where people are poor, and already portraying yourself as 'being humbled' before you even went.

As a critically thinking Christian (a rear breed indeed), I can assure you that the vast majority of Christians do see themselves as "better".  But, I also think most of them are fools who take the wrong things literally while ignoring the crucial truths that can be found in religious texts of all creeds.

@BitChick, while you're in India PLEASE do more listening than talking, especially about religion.
legendary
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hero member
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There is the dilemma I guess.  Money in of itself is not evil.  The LOVE of money is evil.  Do I love money?  I think it is hard not to be tempted by the comfort it can bring for sure.  I wrestle with this.  I am going to India in six weeks and I will be hit in the face and greatly humbled by those that can live lives of complete contentment and even joy with far less than I have.  So in a way you are right.  It is an area that I probably have some issues with, especially growing up in a rich area in the United States that is surrounded by every luxury we could ever want.  

You almost sound smug beforehand, as if you're being a better person by deciding to go somewhere where people are poor, and already portraying yourself as 'being humbled' before you even went.
hero member
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It depends what the main goal is?

Would it be nice to have the freedom to do more things in life?  Sure.  Money is just a necessary tool that can be used for great good in the world.  Money is useful and there are some things I would like to use it for, but there are many more important things in life than money!  But we should be wise with it too.  Some people think Bitcoin is a foolish investment.  I think keeping all of my cash in USD and stocks could be a foolish investment.  We put our trust in the wrong things sometimes.

I'm not even saying wanting to make money is bad, I mean we're all here, are we not? I'm trying to make as much money as I can too.. I'm just using you as an example to the forum for how you can make buttloads of hypothetical money and then still lose most of it due to tunnel vision and stubbornness in your beliefs.

I could lose every penny I have and that would be OK, really.  I can't trust in money.  We trust in money too much in this world unfortunately.

I think I do enjoy the adrenalin rush a little too much during a bubble though.  Perhaps that is wrong?  That could be greed.   Undecided  I need to think about that.  It is perhaps an area in my life I should pray about.

If you think I am stubborn about Bitcoin, don't even get me started about my Christian beliefs.   Cheesy  

Nonsense, your christian belief is adapted to fit your own desires. Greed of money is your belief. So nope, you are not stubborn, actually you are very flexible. The quotes I pasted clearly disagree with you praying about bitcoin price going up. No? Please refute me.

There is the dilemma I guess.  Money in of itself is not evil.  The LOVE of money is evil.  Do I love money?  I think it is hard not to be tempted by the comfort it can bring for sure.  I wrestle with this.  I am going to India in six weeks and I will be hit in the face and greatly humbled by those that can live lives of complete contentment and even joy with far less than I have.  So in a way you are right.  It is an area that I probably have some issues with, especially growing up in a rich area in the United States that is surrounded by every luxury we could ever want.  

Why do I want the price to go up though?  Well, I really wanted to bring a few thousand dollars more with me to India for one thing.  Also, I would love to send both my daughters to great Christian colleges at some point, which is pricey and I don't have the funds to do that either.  Also, my husband would really like to work at home and has some projects he is interested in doing but doesn't have the time to do them. I would like to think my motives are fairly pure, but maybe they are not.  It is something I should consider.

Alright thats fine, being honest with yourself. But lets not forget this final quote of what awaits you if you indeed become rich.

Mark 10:25

"It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God."

I know its hard to deal with the reality of being a christian, but .. well thats what is demanded of you if you are indeed following the book.
legendary
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I'm a known a-religionist, but trust me there's nothing stronger than faith. It's somehow incorporated into this damn Matrix. Like a virus, or a secret weapon which whoever possesses a glimpse of it, can make miracles. Christian, Buddhist, Science; whatever you believe, if you believe it strongly, you can actually make it real.  

Except science is not a religion, thank you, and it is the only thing that can produce 'miracles' with actual reproducibility.

Science is a tool, but many scientists don't use it properly and cling to their beliefs on faith alone.
legendary
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Money, in general, can be a bitch, but bitcoin is divine.


Not when its linked to money it isnt its frustrating on the way down. Smiley
sr. member
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You guys are too hard on BitChick.  She's Christ-like!  Remember He complimented the money changers for bringing some volume to the Temple, and made an excellent impression on the locals, who honored Him with a big shindig on that nice Golgotha hill?   Well, WE are money changers.

Welcome, Church Lady!
legendary
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400. everything is going to be alright  Smiley
legendary
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i am and Existentialist, existence precedes essence.
legendary
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Plus I am female!   Shocked    What am I even doing on this thread!?  Cheesy
Are you even allowed on the internet??

I think if I posted a picture of my butt in a thong I would be OK.   Grin  (I could even get away with quoting Bible that way too perhaps. Wink )


We wouldn't be reading the post anyway.
legendary
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Money, in general, can be a bitch, but bitcoin is divine.
legendary
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I didn't know God loves M&M's


 Grin Grin

Yes. But not the peanut ones, just the chocolate centered ones.

Psalms 119:103 - How sweet are thy words unto my taste! [yea, sweeter] than honey to my mouth
hero member
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I'm a known a-religionist, but trust me there's nothing stronger than faith. It's somehow incorporated into this damn Matrix. Like a virus, or a secret weapon which whoever possesses a glimpse of it, can make miracles. Christian, Buddhist, Science; whatever you believe, if you believe it strongly, you can actually make it real.  

Except science is not a religion, thank you, and it is the only thing that can produce 'miracles' with actual reproducibility.
legendary
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Plus I am female!   Shocked    What am I even doing on this thread!?  Cheesy
Are you even allowed on the internet??

I think if I posted a picture of my butt in a thong I would be OK.   Grin  (I could even get away with quoting Bible that way too perhaps. Wink )

Edit. . .  leaving thread now as it degenerates in seconds  3, 2, 1

legendary
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Strange, yet attractive.
god is the universe.

we are a part of him

he is unaware of are being, and completely indifferent.

FTFY! Grin
The "are being" is still cryptic though...

He's talking about my schizophrenic personality. It's OK. WE AGREE! Grin
sr. member
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god is the universe.

we are a part of him

he is unaware of are being, and completely indifferent.


I didn't know God loves M&M's


 Grin Grin
legendary
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god is the universe.

we are a part of him

he is unaware of are being, and completely indifferent.


yes... that is a bitcoin on the ground next to the key...
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