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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 25821. (Read 26610402 times)

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Screw It, Let's Do It

I have consulting relationships with people who have told me that they were doing it.  I consider their statements to be factual because of context.  


I call that BS.
I work in consulting and only a few even know bitcoin.

Maybe it's different in your country. But I doubt it. And no, I'm not from a 3. world state (like the usa).
legendary
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anymore bad news today?

lets get this thing going DOWN

CYLMF

I thought we only went down on good news. Is it now all news?

Soon, It'll be unrelated news as well Wink



the only thing left to do is CYL
hero member
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anymore bad news today?

lets get this thing going DOWN

CYLMF

I thought we only went down on good news. Is it now all news?

Soon, It'll be unrelated news as well Wink

legendary
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anymore bad news today?

lets get this thing going DOWN

CYLMF
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You're never too old to think young.
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lol what intersts me bangladesh? Roll Eyes
legendary
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legendary
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i ain't buying till sub 350

CUT YOUR LOSSES NOW!

INB4

I told you since $700
Cut your Looses, final capitulation, don't buy on a dead cat bounce, blahblahblah  Tongue
legendary
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i ain't buying till sub 350

CUT YOUR LOSSES NOW!
legendary
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bitfinex just cracked a new low...
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legendary
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trade your way to a fortune SELL NOW!
hero member
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12h macD going into red will trigger the fat dump dildos to the 400$, thats what i am thinking
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Meanwhile consolidation on Stamp and Finex is not finished yet. You will all left behind when it skyrocks with a breakout upwards  Cheesy





People talking about sky rockets for months.

And no sky rocket so far, only downwards

It was a semi-joke. Not a joke as consolidation in fact has not ended yet, but it looks quite bearish and nothing seems to indicate a breakuout upwards. ~400 is quite likely, ~300 also seems reasonable, and there is even potencial for a further capitulation.

I will say it again, and get mocked for it again:

If btc goes below 340-350, there is no future for btc.  We have already lost so many new adopters this year.  Expecting anyone with a buy in from 2014 to stick around for a 40-70% drop in value is ludicrous.  Long-term growth is based on adoption, not short-term greed.  It would be a Pyrrhic victory for the whales who engineered it. (Exponential growth implies exponential adoption, which implies that the vast majority of btc owners are from 2014, amirite?)

Inb4 is btc dead AGAIN, remember 2012, stupid newbie (who has owned coins for 3 years...), there is no such thing as manipulation, this is consolidation, this is is the accumulation stage, etc.

Discussion question: do the vast majority of early adopters believe in btc, or are they trying to get as much money out of the next "bubble" as possible, then run with the fiat?  And the follow up question: does evidence from the market support one side or the other of question #1?  Scary for those who think, tragic for those who feel.

I am going to drink some Chang draft for the next few weeks, and try not to pray for a crash.


I don't agree.

First let me explain the potencial capitulation aspect. It looks like that over the past years a lot of market participants have developted some very naive kind of market perspective, that implies we top out at some point and after that we have a bear market to 0.3 - 0.25 of the top only to repeat the same pattern until we reach 1,000,000$ and beyond. Now breaking below 340, could effect a cascade of Get-Rich-Quick Holders to unload their cold wallets and we could see a cascade of heavy selling waves forcing a capitulation.

This possible cataclysm has not has to materialize never, but it's far away from delusional bearish dreaming. If we now draw a mid sized cataclysm of a capitulation low to ~220 you really mean this would be the end of bitcoin? I say, no! I say the market only would liberate hisself from exaggerated expectation, and from people who mean they can calculate market movements by counting 1 + 1 = 2.

Regarding your point of new adopters: in this early stage of bitcoin they have no big impact to the markets. They market makers, the ruling traders etc. have an impact. New adopters are like flies smelling shit, they go away when there's nothing to earn, only to come back as a bigger crowd when weather is bettering.

As I said, capitulation has not to materialize, but if it does you should stop kinda thinking that many called permabulls here have. A lot of them  (not all - as there are of course some real believers) will sell and than quitle likely beeing trapped. Hold, sell now, buy now, do what you want but don't sell into a capitulation and don't believe capitulation would mean the end of bitcoin, it likely would mean the contrary.
legendary
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If we can trust Aminorex  Wink

You can take your advice from an imaginary cyborg monkey ridden by a whiskey-swilling amphetamine-chewing hacker ex-cowboy if you wish....I doubt you will get far with the judge however.
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legendary
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this market is bad shit crazy.
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Smart money is dumping btc on exchanges to hold down marks for contract coins.  This much I know for a fact.  I then speculate:  When that dam breaks, there will be a mighty wave.


How do you know that ?

I have consulting relationships with people who have told me that they were doing it.  I consider their statements to be factual because of context.


Ok, thanks for this information. It is consolidating my opinion: price on exchanges is much lower than it should be. I am very optimist for the value of my bitcoins.

Good to hear confirmation of this. If we can trust Aminorex  Wink
legendary
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What if Hedge Fund(s) have started to sell? Could it be the source of so many damn coins?
What if we had no need of speculating about this and could look up historical action of one particular BTC fund? https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gbtc-bitcoin-investment-trust-observer-337486

What if we could use this as an indication for other funds where we do not have the data?

What if the people pumping/hyping GABI had confronted reality and done this, maybe they would have been less disappointed now?  Shocked

SMBIT is an excellent contrarian indicator.

Smart money is dumping btc on exchanges to hold down marks for contract coins.  This much I know for a fact.  I then speculate:  When that dam breaks, there will be a mighty wave.

That is so wicked it is probably true!!!
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