Yep, appears to be another meaningless truism.. without any real legs but supports an anti-govt thesis.
Yes, once again you simply dismiss anything that doesn't fit your world view. Any arguments, proofs or examples that current government is not good are invalid because the government is good.
Good synopsis of my position.....
NOTWe may be repeating things; however, first you snipped the substance of what you are quoting from me.. of course, I can easily link back to it, but your post does NOT show to what your comments are referring.
Our arguments do NOT seem to boil down to whether the current government is good or NOT, because we could probably both agree that reform is needed in a lot of ways, and we may even be able to agree to some of the reforms, if we actually sat down and maybe if we were forced to make some meaningful compromises regarding some working system.
Several times, you various anti-government folks get into these tangents about minimizing and/or removing government or even localizing decision making, but do NOT elaborate very specifically about how to get from point A to point B. I tend to fault you guys in that regard, even though I do have some sympathy for the fact that it would NOT be easy to outline such a plan within a thread, such as this... yet sometimes the vociferous criticisms are emanating from anti-governmentalists and a lot of this vociferous criticisms are misplaces and are capable of better analysis and more specific examples.
My overall sentiments are that government is good, but NOT to praise the status quo but to indicate that government is the potential voice and vehicle of the people and it is necessary in order to have community living (which that is what we seem to have with 7 billion-ish peeps on the planet). We can probably agree that there are a lot of status quo problems with the current government arrangement, and likely many of us seem to agree about the various problems of having too much monied interests controlling the direction of government decision-making and in that regard, monied interest frequently use the government as a vehicle to get the public resources and interests to serve private purposes (and frequently narrow private purposes that have been camouflaged as being in the public interst).
Time to get back to wall watching. Not because I'm upset or throwing my toys out of the pram, merely that I think the essentials have been covered on both sides and flogging a dead horse is tiresome for all.
No problem, either way... I'm sure the topic of the role of government and taxes and variations thereof will continue to come up from time to time.