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sr. member
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legendary
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Yep, I could sense a big dump was coming.

will it bounce back like its done all day?

probably not, b4 now we one whale had painted a series of higher lows [while selling coins to himself], this trend is broken, epic knife coming everyone run to darkcoin Ripple!


FTFY  Cheesy

yes the same whale everywhere at the same time, and no one else contributed to this...



You do realize a single whale can have multiple accounts on multiple exchanges, right?  That's how they arbitrage, as well as fake the market volume.   Grin

whale must have infinite fiat and different colors of fiat too

bullish?

 Cheesy
legendary
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Yep, I could sense a big dump was coming.

will it bounce back like its done all day?

probably not, b4 now we one whale had painted a series of higher lows [while selling coins to himself], this trend is broken, epic knife coming everyone run to darkcoin Ripple!


FTFY  Cheesy

yes the same whale everywhere at the same time, and no one else contributed to this...



You do realize a single whale can have multiple trading accounts on multiple exchanges, right?  That's how they arbitrage, as well as fake the market volume.   Grin
legendary
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good drop! most volume we've seen all day.
legendary
Activity: 1904
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Trusted Bitcoiner
Yep, I could sense a big dump was coming.

will it bounce back like its done all day?

probably not, b4 now we one whale had painted a series of higher lows [while selling coins to himself], this trend is broken, epic knife coming everyone run to darkcoin Ripple!


FTFY  Cheesy

yes the same whale everywhere at the same time, and no one else contributed to this...

legendary
Activity: 3822
Merit: 5504
Yep, I could sense a big dump was coming.

will it bounce back like its done all day?

probably not, b4 now we one whale had painted a series of higher lows [while selling coins to himself], this trend is broken, epic knife coming everyone run to darkcoin Ripple!


FTFY  Cheesy
legendary
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also the idea of "co-opting" bitcoin is silly we can all see the code.... and thats all that matters, who cares if USA or CHINA or a group of hackers, holds more, point is everyone can clearly see they played by the rules and won.

You say it is impossible, but I was able to come up with a co-opt strategy in 10 minutes. Keep reading.

Let's say that a powerful actor want to disrupt bitcoin (or any blockchain / 'mining' based technology).
He can build mining facilities, careful to not disclose that they are associated and can act in accordance.
With time, he obtain the vast majority of the hashing power.
Then, it start to inhibit transactions at random.
At this point users realize that the system is unusable and try to switch to another similar system.
The actor repeat the process.
The only solution at this point is another technology shift in these matters, with the same benefits of bitcoin but without his (by now perceived) drawbacks.



hashing power will ALWAYS service us the moment it doesn't we ignore it
legendary
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Yep, I could sense a big dump was coming.

will it bounce back like its done all day?

probably not, b4 now we had painted a series of higher lows, this trend is broken, epic knife coming everyone run to darkcoin!
full member
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playing pasta and eating mandolinos
also the idea of "co-opting" bitcoin is silly we can all see the code.... and thats all that matters, who cares if USA or CHINA or a group of hackers, holds more, point is everyone can clearly see they played by the rules and won.

You say it is impossible, but I was able to come up with a co-opt strategy in 10 minutes. Keep reading.

Let's say that a powerful actor want to disrupt bitcoin (or any blockchain / 'mining' based technology).
He can build mining facilities, careful to not disclose that they are associated and can act in accordance.
With time, he obtain the vast majority of the hashing power.
Then, it start to inhibit transactions at random.
At this point users realize that the system is unusable and try to switch to another similar system.
The actor repeat the process.
The only solution at this point is another technology shift in these matters, with the same benefits of bitcoin but without his (by now perceived) drawbacks.


sr. member
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Who cares?
... time to be all in now, nuff said.

edit: oh, and get your coins off the exchanges if you value them.

Do you know secret things?
legendary
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Yep, I could sense a big dump was coming.
legendary
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492. CO-OPT ME YOU KNOW YOU WANA.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1038
Trusted Bitcoiner
also the idea of "co-opting" bitcoin is silly we can all see the code.... and thats all that matters, who cares if USA or CHINA or a group of hackers, holds more, point is everyone can clearly see they played by the rules and won.
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playing pasta and eating mandolinos
http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/06/11/bitcoin-is-sedition/

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Even if they manage to completely co-opt Bitcoin development, the global insurrection against the status quo will not simply evaporate. It will simply move on to a different venue and all the resources they put into neutering Bitcoin will be wasted.

wait a min.
"Even if they manage to completely co-opt Bitcoin development"
isn't that what we want?
we want the world on board,
that in itself will satisfy the " global insurrection against the status quo "

what more do you want? control of the world? ya  cool join the club and buy some bitcoin.

Have a look here http://morgana.unimore.it/bertocchi_graziella/papers/cooptweb.pdf for what, in my opinion, he mean for co-option.

no i get it, they will try to, co-opt bitcoin and "rule it" how they see it.

i dont know who rules bitcoin right now, nor do i care.

point is we all want to.

thats what gives it value.

you can't just move to a new venue, thats admitting defeat and then going to play another game.

Let's imagine the beginning of the press era. A few revolutionaries tried to print their ideas and spread them far and wide, to the uttermost disconcert of the ruling class that at that point controlled the mean of mass information (papers nailed outside the churches), almost without effort.

Now, we know how it all ended: the ruling class just saw the potential of the medium not to spread potentially destabilizing information, but to spread stabilizing ones. I bet that Gutenberg didn't see that coming.
legendary
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http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/06/11/bitcoin-is-sedition/

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Even if they manage to completely co-opt Bitcoin development, the global insurrection against the status quo will not simply evaporate. It will simply move on to a different venue and all the resources they put into neutering Bitcoin will be wasted.

wait a min.
"Even if they manage to completely co-opt Bitcoin development"
isn't that what we want?
we want the world on board,
that in itself will satisfy the " global insurrection against the status quo "

what more do you want? control of the world? ya  cool join the club and buy some bitcoin.

Have a look here http://morgana.unimore.it/bertocchi_graziella/papers/cooptweb.pdf for what, in my opinion, he mean for co-option.

no i get it, they will try to, co-opt bitcoin and "rule it" how they see it.

i dont know who rules bitcoin right now, nor do i care.

point is we all want to.

thats what gives it value.

you can't just move to a new venue, thats admitting defeat and then going to play another game.
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
playing pasta and eating mandolinos
http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/06/11/bitcoin-is-sedition/

Quote
Even if they manage to completely co-opt Bitcoin development, the global insurrection against the status quo will not simply evaporate. It will simply move on to a different venue and all the resources they put into neutering Bitcoin will be wasted.

wait a min.
"Even if they manage to completely co-opt Bitcoin development"
isn't that what we want?
we want the world on board,
that in itself will satisfy the " global insurrection against the status quo "

what more do you want? control of the world? ya  cool join the club and buy some bitcoin.

Have a look here http://morgana.unimore.it/bertocchi_graziella/papers/cooptweb.pdf for what, in my opinion, he mean for co-option.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1038
Trusted Bitcoiner
http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/06/11/bitcoin-is-sedition/

Quote
Even if they manage to completely co-opt Bitcoin development, the global insurrection against the status quo will not simply evaporate. It will simply move on to a different venue and all the resources they put into neutering Bitcoin will be wasted.

wait a min.
"Even if they manage to completely co-opt Bitcoin development"
isn't that what we want?
we want the world on board,
that in itself will satisfy the " global insurrection against the status quo "

what more do you want? control of the world? ya  cool join the club and buy some bitcoin.

bitcoin is the decentralization of world domination
legendary
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legendary
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It's amazing it's so close.
I suspect something about how the Moon was formed in the first place has something to do with it. The difference in energy is probably came from whatever hit the Earth hard enough to knock part of it up there in the first place.
hero member
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you clearly have not taken any cyber space physics classes

all kinds of possibilities open up



I was wrong anyway. The Earth has enough rotational energy to winch the Moon down to the surface. (21x1028 vs 8x1028 J)

On the bright side, we'd have more hours in the day.

Hey Justus, I just read your 'bitcoin is sedition' article and I wish to thank you, the best read in a while! And your analysis is very interesting!
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it.

It's amazing it's so close.

I think today was the turning point. Expect a run up again.
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