if only i could i would travel the world with a mage phone annoucing the good news to everyone i encourter
bitcoin must not fail. pretty sure everything hangs in the balance as this critical piece of technology evolves. just look around its so obvious!
opt the fuck out now!
BUY BUY BUY!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6KXgjLqSTg
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July 30, 2014, 09:23:40 PM
July 30, 2014, 09:07:55 PM
Anybody has a clue why the sell off seems worst on Stamp? All these leveraged longs are on Bitfinex or BTC-e?
Most manipulators reside in bitstamp. They are dragging the price down and Tim Draper is busy arbing the other exchanges down. So the manipulator dumps 1X on one exchange and buys 3X on the other exchanges for a cheaper price. Tim is the one getting played here.
July 30, 2014, 09:07:46 PM
my mom always said the best answer would be to blow up the world.
It isn't inflatable. I looked. There's no nozzle.
July 30, 2014, 09:04:01 PM
rant about BitLicense
BitLicense is a good example of just how fucked up everything is
Ben Lawsky said he would not over regulate, he said they would be very minimal rules even less then current AML laws. to make sure NOT to stifle innovation, he must of said "NOT stifle innovation" at least 21 million times. and now people are talking about how it might necessary to just not service NY customers, because of his proposed laws. lol.
I can only hope some of it gets rewriten, but still, I'd like to thank Mr Lawsky, for being such a prime example why no one should trust a word this goverment says. not a word, never.
USA, you've totaly let the whole world down. for a time we looked up to you, because you valued freedom as priceless, oh you still talk the talk.... but its all fucking lies.
SUCH A SHAME!
bitcoin is the new beacon of hope and freedom!
BitLicense is a good example of just how fucked up everything is
Ben Lawsky said he would not over regulate, he said they would be very minimal rules even less then current AML laws. to make sure NOT to stifle innovation, he must of said "NOT stifle innovation" at least 21 million times. and now people are talking about how it might necessary to just not service NY customers, because of his proposed laws. lol.
I can only hope some of it gets rewriten, but still, I'd like to thank Mr Lawsky, for being such a prime example why no one should trust a word this goverment says. not a word, never.
USA, you've totaly let the whole world down. for a time we looked up to you, because you valued freedom as priceless, oh you still talk the talk.... but its all fucking lies.
SUCH A SHAME!
bitcoin is the new beacon of hope and freedom!
Answer is simple,
Antarctic ice shelf will slide into the ocean and we won't need to worry about new York legislation
my mom always said the best answer would be to blow up the world.
July 30, 2014, 09:03:09 PM
rate, and it took about 3 days to secure.
I could have borrowed more, but I figured that $20k was sufficient given my total situation.
I did several of these kinds of loans in the 2003-6 time-frame, and back then there were some that were completely 0%. It is more difficult to find 0% these days.
I could have borrowed more, but I figured that $20k was sufficient given my total situation.
I did several of these kinds of loans in the 2003-6 time-frame, and back then there were some that were completely 0%. It is more difficult to find 0% these days.
Haha that was awesome. SD/FW used to be the go to place at the time to pump and churn 0% CCs. Ah the memories.
July 30, 2014, 09:02:38 PM
Finex is going to 555 within the next hour. Lot off support there on the order-book, but someone could pull the rug.
July 30, 2014, 09:02:07 PM
rant about BitLicense
BitLicense is a good example of just how fucked up everything is
Ben Lawsky said he would not over regulate, he said they would be very minimal rules even less then current AML laws. to make sure NOT to stifle innovation, he must of said "NOT stifle innovation" at least 21 million times. and now people are talking about how it might necessary to just not service NY customers, because of his proposed laws. lol.
I can only hope some of it gets rewriten, but still, I'd like to thank Mr Lawsky, for being such a prime example why no one should trust a word this goverment says. not a word, never.
USA, you've totaly let the whole world down. for a time we looked up to you, because you valued freedom as priceless, oh you still talk the talk.... but its all fucking lies.
SUCH A SHAME!
bitcoin is the new beacon of hope and freedom!
BitLicense is a good example of just how fucked up everything is
Ben Lawsky said he would not over regulate, he said they would be very minimal rules even less then current AML laws. to make sure NOT to stifle innovation, he must of said "NOT stifle innovation" at least 21 million times. and now people are talking about how it might necessary to just not service NY customers, because of his proposed laws. lol.
I can only hope some of it gets rewriten, but still, I'd like to thank Mr Lawsky, for being such a prime example why no one should trust a word this goverment says. not a word, never.
USA, you've totaly let the whole world down. for a time we looked up to you, because you valued freedom as priceless, oh you still talk the talk.... but its all fucking lies.
SUCH A SHAME!
bitcoin is the new beacon of hope and freedom!
Answer is simple,
Antarctic ice shelf will slide into the ocean and we won't need to worry about new York legislation
July 30, 2014, 09:00:41 PM
rant about BitLicense
BitLicense is a good example of just how fucked up everything is
Ben Lawsky said he would not over regulate, he said they would be very minimal rules even less then current AML laws. to make sure NOT to stifle innovation, he must of said "NOT stifle innovation" at least 21 million times. and now people are talking about how it might necessary to just not service NY customers, because of his proposed laws. lol.
I can only hope some of it gets rewriten, but still, I'd like to thank Mr Lawsky, for being such a prime example why no one should trust a word this goverment says. not a word, never.
USA, you've totaly let the whole world down. for a time we looked up to you, because you valued freedom as priceless, oh you still talk the talk.... but its all fucking lies.
SUCH A SHAME!
bitcoin is the new beacon of hope and freedom!
BitLicense is a good example of just how fucked up everything is
Ben Lawsky said he would not over regulate, he said they would be very minimal rules even less then current AML laws. to make sure NOT to stifle innovation, he must of said "NOT stifle innovation" at least 21 million times. and now people are talking about how it might necessary to just not service NY customers, because of his proposed laws. lol.
I can only hope some of it gets rewriten, but still, I'd like to thank Mr Lawsky, for being such a prime example why no one should trust a word this goverment says. not a word, never.
USA, you've totaly let the whole world down. for a time we looked up to you, because you valued freedom as priceless, oh you still talk the talk.... but its all fucking lies.
SUCH A SHAME!
bitcoin is the new beacon of hope and freedom!
No offense, I think it's cool if you are, but you seem pretty high right now
July 30, 2014, 09:00:07 PM
Everyone's just talking around here, let's put our money where our mouths are and buy some BTC in order to get this baby on course to the moon again! 
How would you know if posters here are buying or NOT? I'm sure some posters here are buying (and of the belief that you should buy while the prices are going down... or at least attempting to buy most at the lowest price point - without missing the boat). I bought some at $575, and I did NOT know whether prices would go lower, and then I will likely buy some more at $550 or so,,, and maybe at other points... depending on the passage of time and whether BTC prices go lower.
To be honest, I believe that a lot of people around here already maxxed out their allotment which they allow themselves to invest in BTC. Some may even be well above a reasonable level.
When I go to bed tonight, I will sleep well. When I wake up, if the price is lower, I will buy more. I don't care if it is $540, $520, $400, or even lower. If people can't say the same, they should lighten their load. But not now. Bad time to sell.
BTW: I believe that I do NOT fit your definition of someone who is over-invested in BTC b/c I am still continuing to increase my holdings in BTC... little by little.... continuously with much of my spare BTC allocated fiat.
However, in the interest of broader disclosure, I do have some leveraging of my bitcoin holdings... My holdings are leveraged over about 16 months (until September 2015)... ... so the NOTE will be due then. I do have a back up source of money to pay off the leveraged amount, in the event that BTC is NOT performing adequately by September 2015... Then have to go to plan B.... ..
don't leverage if you have the funds to finance your buying yourself. why pay the interest if you don't have to?
The amount was $20k, and the interest was $800 for the whole period from about May 2014 to September 2015. I think that it was a good idea, but I understand what you are saying regarding potential issues with leveraging.
How the hell did you borrow $20K unsecured for less than 4%? I assume it was unsecured and that you didn't take a HELOC to do it.
Whether you are overexposed or not is really up to your own judgment. I think diversification is beautiful, myself. I've learned hard lessons in my life. If BTC runs, I'm happy. If not, I'm still happy. Of course, one thing that might make me different on this board is that I'm 46 years old. It has given me time to screw up financially and recover at least a couple of times. It has given me time to earn and accumulate assets. I have a plan and a path to financial security that BTC can't shake, it can only hasten.
You are correct. The loan was unsecure. It is a credit card promotional rate, and it took about 3 days to secure.
I could have borrowed more, but I figured that $20k was sufficient given my total situation.
I did several of these kinds of loans in the 2003-6 time-frame, and back then there were some that were completely 0%. It is more difficult to find 0% these days.
July 30, 2014, 08:59:58 PM
July 30, 2014, 08:58:03 PM
Anybody has a clue why the sell off seems worst on Stamp? All these leveraged longs are on Bitfinex or BTC-e?
July 30, 2014, 08:56:58 PM
Won't you have a Pepsi?
About 3 years ago, I gave up about 99% of sodas - and life has gone on without those kinds of drinks....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5jfepuLO4M
July 30, 2014, 08:55:17 PM
It seems to be all manipulation attempts with no panic selling. To do it right you need to have fake bad news and then dump to create panic and buy in cheaper. You don't just sell for the fuck of it. Silly manipulator.
It kinda looks like a bottom
It kinda smells like a bottom
Why am I not convinced this is the bottom?
Monkey has been calling it an anomalous bottom that won't play out for two more days, probably three. I keep trying to buy the dips, when the monkey says it will rise directly, but the rise which follows is never enough to justify the bother. I think from here on I will wait for the allotted days of anomaly to pass before I attempt to make another move.
July 30, 2014, 08:52:30 PM
this could be the reason for the drop in price the past few day?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6dboY9FtDo
"BitLicense"
I guess i missed this news when it came out.
so apparently Bitcoin is pretty hard to use to buy small things in NY ( you have to give allkinds of info to buy anything with bitcoin in NY? )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6dboY9FtDo
"BitLicense"
I guess i missed this news when it came out.
so apparently Bitcoin is pretty hard to use to buy small things in NY ( you have to give allkinds of info to buy anything with bitcoin in NY? )
THAT proposed regulation is at the 45 day public comment period. Accordingly, it is still only a proposal.
Doesn't NY limit the size soda drinks you can buy too? I don't see Coke and Pepsi stock dropping
That Soda restriction legislation news got a lot of press, too, but I think in the end that legislation did NOT withstand the test of time.
But, back to NY bitcoin legislation, it seems too preliminary to be having such a negative impact on the BTC price - even though rumors do have negative impacts.. .
Won't you have a Pepsi?
About 3 years ago, I gave up about 99% of sodas - and life has gone on without those kinds of drinks....
July 30, 2014, 08:52:04 PM
rant about BitLicense
BitLicense is a good example of just how fucked up everything is
Ben Lawsky said he would not over regulate, he said they would be very minimal rules even less then current AML laws. to make sure NOT to stifle innovation, he must of said "NOT stifle innovation" at least 21 million times. and now people are talking about how it might necessary to just not service NY customers, because of his proposed laws. lol.
I can only hope some of it gets rewriten, but still, I'd like to thank Mr Lawsky, for being such a prime example why no one should trust a word this goverment says. not a word, never.
USA, you've totaly let the whole world down. for a time we looked up to you, because you valued freedom as priceless, oh you still talk the talk.... but its all fucking lies.
SUCH A SHAME!
bitcoin is the new beacon of hope and freedom!
BitLicense is a good example of just how fucked up everything is
Ben Lawsky said he would not over regulate, he said they would be very minimal rules even less then current AML laws. to make sure NOT to stifle innovation, he must of said "NOT stifle innovation" at least 21 million times. and now people are talking about how it might necessary to just not service NY customers, because of his proposed laws. lol.
I can only hope some of it gets rewriten, but still, I'd like to thank Mr Lawsky, for being such a prime example why no one should trust a word this goverment says. not a word, never.
USA, you've totaly let the whole world down. for a time we looked up to you, because you valued freedom as priceless, oh you still talk the talk.... but its all fucking lies.
SUCH A SHAME!
bitcoin is the new beacon of hope and freedom!
July 30, 2014, 08:51:55 PM
Everyone's just talking around here, let's put our money where our mouths are and buy some BTC in order to get this baby on course to the moon again!
How would you know if posters here are buying or NOT? I'm sure some posters here are buying (and of the belief that you should buy while the prices are going down... or at least attempting to buy most at the lowest price point - without missing the boat). I bought some at $575, and I did NOT know whether prices would go lower, and then I will likely buy some more at $550 or so,,, and maybe at other points... depending on the passage of time and whether BTC prices go lower.
To be honest, I believe that a lot of people around here already maxxed out their allotment which they allow themselves to invest in BTC. Some may even be well above a reasonable level.
When I go to bed tonight, I will sleep well. When I wake up, if the price is lower, I will buy more. I don't care if it is $540, $520, $400, or even lower. If people can't say the same, they should lighten their load. But not now. Bad time to sell.
BTW: I believe that I do NOT fit your definition of someone who is over-invested in BTC b/c I am still continuing to increase my holdings in BTC... little by little.... continuously with much of my spare BTC allocated fiat.
However, in the interest of broader disclosure, I do have some leveraging of my bitcoin holdings... My holdings are leveraged over about 16 months (until September 2015)... ... so the NOTE will be due then. I do have a back up source of money to pay off the leveraged amount, in the event that BTC is NOT performing adequately by September 2015... Then have to go to plan B.... ..
don't leverage if you have the funds to finance your buying yourself. why pay the interest if you don't have to?
The amount was $20k, and the interest was $800 for the whole period from about May 2014 to September 2015. I think that it was a good idea, but I understand what you are saying regarding potential issues with leveraging.
How the hell did you borrow $20K unsecured for less than 4%? I assume it was unsecured and that you didn't take a HELOC to do it.
Whether you are overexposed or not is really up to your own judgment. I think diversification is beautiful, myself. I've learned hard lessons in my life. If BTC runs, I'm happy. If not, I'm still happy. Of course, one thing that might make me different on this board is that I'm 46 years old. It has given me time to screw up financially and recover at least a couple of times. It has given me time to earn and accumulate assets. I have a plan and a path to financial security that BTC can't shake, it can only hasten.
July 30, 2014, 08:50:50 PM
It seems to be all manipulation attempts with no panic selling. To do it right you need to have fake bad news and then dump to create panic and buy in cheaper. You don't just sell for the fuck of it. Silly manipulator.
It kinda looks like a bottom
It kinda smells like a bottom
Why am I not convinced this is the bottom?
July 30, 2014, 08:50:30 PM
683 last high, 20% down to 545 would officially put us in a bear market again.
July 30, 2014, 08:49:45 PM
Bitfinex interest rates are getting lower and the amount of longs remains the same. At least these sellers are doing something right... Oh and giving everyone cheap coins too.
July 30, 2014, 08:47:39 PM
this could be the reason for the drop in price the past few day?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6dboY9FtDo
"BitLicense"
I guess i missed this news when it came out.
so apparently Bitcoin is pretty hard to use to buy small things in NY ( you have to give allkinds of info to buy anything with bitcoin in NY? )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6dboY9FtDo
"BitLicense"
I guess i missed this news when it came out.
so apparently Bitcoin is pretty hard to use to buy small things in NY ( you have to give allkinds of info to buy anything with bitcoin in NY? )
THAT proposed regulation is at the 45 day public comment period. Accordingly, it is still only a proposal.
Doesn't NY limit the size soda drinks you can buy too? I don't see Coke and Pepsi stock dropping
That Soda restriction legislation news got a lot of press, too, but I think in the end that legislation did NOT withstand the test of time.
But, back to NY bitcoin legislation, it seems too preliminary to be having such a negative impact on the BTC price - even though rumors do have negative impacts.. .
Won't you have a Pepsi?
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