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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 26560. (Read 26608133 times)

legendary
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Argentina defaults!

Debt defaults are good for fiat currencies because bankruptcy is the cleansing mechanism of fractional reserve banking. In the case of sovereign debt there are different scenarios based upon whether the debt is in domestic or foreign currency. Argentina has shown that it will print any amount of pesos to pay off government and financial sector debts - denominated in pesos. The problem here is that it owes dollars and can't print them. The Federal Reserve can print dollars, and could bail out Argentina, just has it has done many stealth bailouts of foreign institutions since 2007/8.

tldr; if the Fed prints dollars to bail out Argentina then this is good for Bitcoin. Argentina defaulting shows this is not happening, so should be btc neutral.


http://www.aei-ideas.org/2014/07/the-fall-out-from-an-argentine-default/


 "A default now would almost certainly trigger more capital flight from the country, which would severely impact the Argentine currency and cause inflation to ratchet up further. More serious yet, a default now would keep Argentina locked out of international capital markets for many years to come, which would severely constrain the country’s longer-run economic growth prospects."
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
That's it,  crypto ponzi is going to POP. Big people earned enough money, now it is time to exit.
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1006
100 satoshis -> ISO code
Argentina defaults!

Debt defaults are good for fiat currencies because bankruptcy is the cleansing mechanism of fractional reserve banking. In the case of sovereign debt there are different scenarios based upon whether the debt is in domestic or foreign currency. Argentina has shown that it will print any amount of pesos to pay off government and financial sector debts - denominated in pesos. The problem here is that it owes dollars and can't print them. The Federal Reserve can print dollars, and could bail out Argentina, just has it has done many stealth bailouts of foreign institutions since 2007/8.

tldr; if the Fed prints dollars to bail out Argentina then this is good for Bitcoin. Argentina defaulting shows this is not happening, so should be btc neutral.
hero member
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Merit: 503
don't understand why this dump is caused
legendary
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Merit: 1823
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full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 100
I chickened out on the big short.  The 560 wall went away, but that 557 wall is still there, so I lost a chance at a small profit.

I am going all in at 551, I think.   If it goes down to $540, that is only a 2% difference in price.  I can't see anything on the charts that says lower.
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1748
Aminorex's monkey is getting better. 

Trust it, I am.

Lock and load. Buying now...
hero member
Activity: 496
Merit: 500
Spanish Bitcoin trader
monkey says buy, so i buy now.
You mentioned you monkey worked on mean-reversion. What happens if it turns out the sample data we have is not relevant to the current situation? That is, what if Bitcoin price action has entered a new era?
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1441
Argentina defaults!

I thought it would be a close one....




Sounds
as though they may pull out of the nose dive at the last minute, if so... some damage done but nothing to serious just yet... lets see what they pull out of the bag in the next few days... they had better sort something out asap though.. there are cross-default clauses that could trip them up.

CDS holders are probably touching themselves in anticipation right now...

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-29/how-argentina-s-default-may-trigger-29-billion-in-claims.html
member
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My theory is Bitcoin bagholders are dumping to buy Argentine Pesos.

Not Bulgarian lev?

Or Dogecoin...
hero member
Activity: 841
Merit: 1000
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1441
My theory is Bitcoin bagholders are dumping to buy Argentine Pesos.

Not Bulgarian lev?
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Good ideas. Thanks!

Perhaps you can combine the graph and the news graph into 1, like Google Finance.
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 11299
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
My theory is Bitcoin bagholders are dumping to buy Argentine Pesos.


Buying pesos and dongs... a funny thing  Cheesy Cheesy
member
Activity: 119
Merit: 10
Screw this!
I´m out. Can´t fucking sleep... weak hand perhaps  Embarrassed
Best of luck gentlemen!
sr. member
Activity: 434
Merit: 250
Some sort of border around the news item to visually let people know it's a popup from the current news item.



A scrollbar for the graph




Good ideas. Thanks!

While your at it...

Something like this:



PS: image is highly inaccurate.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
Just bought more.  Nom nom nom.
legendary
Activity: 3920
Merit: 11299
Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Everyone's just talking around here, let's put our money where our mouths are and buy some BTC in order to get this baby on course to the moon again!  Grin

How would you know if posters here are buying or NOT?  I'm sure some posters here are buying (and of the belief that you should buy while the prices are going down... or at least attempting to buy most at the lowest price point - without missing the boat).  I bought some at $575, and I did NOT know whether prices would go lower, and then I will likely buy some more at $550 or so,,, and maybe at other points... depending on the passage of time and whether BTC prices go lower.
member
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Merit: 10
Some sort of border around the news item to visually let people know it's a popup from the current news item.



A scrollbar for the graph




Good ideas. Thanks!
donator
Activity: 1736
Merit: 1014
Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
My theory is Bitcoin bagholders are dumping to buy Argentine Pesos.
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