Their plan is to make payment gateways for countries with high deflationary FIAT currencies, like Argentina. They've talked also about Africa, Latin-America (Mexico), and Asia.
Good promise, but I couldn't understand how exactly are they going to do it. Or when. They've talked about Bitpagos as an example, but are they going to buy it, or only work with them?
Not too many answers and a lot of questions after this press release. They haven't answer the mother of all questions, how much did they pay for the BTC. Only "more than the others, hahahaha" ¬¬
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July 02, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
July 02, 2014, 05:02:05 PM
The field was most level when our weapons were hands, feet, and teeth. It has become steadily more uneven since then: the guys with more money generally have the best defenses and deadliest weapons, and technological advances have only amplified the difference.
No. It might have been nearly level between young, fit men but age a bit, get sick or be a child or female and you start getting power imbalance.Ain't that "just so"...
Stories about primitive humanity are usually used to explain current behavior, and in my mind rely on a whole lot of guesstimating and extrapolation. It's more a reflection of one's world view than anything grounded in reality as far as I am concerned.
Even worse are claims about "how things happen in nature", where anybody with real knowledge can almost always provide countexamples.
July 02, 2014, 05:02:00 PM
The guy from Vaurum says Brazil is one of their prime targets. They're coming to get you, Jorge! Brazil will be assimilated... 
Why don they try to sell their crap in the US or Europe, where the real money is? Why, hun? 
July 02, 2014, 05:01:50 PM
Fact is he's going to invest in the Bitcoin infrastructure and now he owns 30k BTC so his interests are alined with the rest of us holders. Seems like good news
July 02, 2014, 05:00:38 PM
July 02, 2014, 04:59:12 PM
this press conference wasn't to bad actually
and they did explain what their business plan is, yes
prob a transcription will be online soon
and they did explain what their business plan is, yes
prob a transcription will be online soon
July 02, 2014, 04:59:08 PM
A press conference full of promises and intentions but with only a fact, that guy now has 30k BTC bought at an unknown price.
That's absolutely horrible.
July 02, 2014, 04:58:10 PM
WTF is this? ".. you know, there are clever entrepeneurs, speeding up the blockchain artificially"...
The stream keeps cutting out so I'm not getting the full picture here.
Have these guys got any clue what they're doing? Did they say what their business plan is?
The stream keeps cutting out so I'm not getting the full picture here.
Have these guys got any clue what they're doing? Did they say what their business plan is?
July 02, 2014, 04:56:04 PM
A press conference full of promises and intentions but with only a fact, that guy now has 30k BTC bought at an unknown price.
July 02, 2014, 04:53:12 PM
The guy from Vaurum says Brazil is one of their prime targets. They're coming to get you, Jorge! Brazil will be assimilated...
Why don they try to sell their crap in the US or Europe, where the real money is? Why, hun? They want to help people who need their help the most.
You really should be more grateful :p
July 02, 2014, 04:52:50 PM
@potential buyers, If you are interested to wait until it hits $5000, I have a few thousand BTC for sale. Contact me.
Interesting, rpietila seems to believe that the uptrend is running out of steam.
Hookers an blow
July 02, 2014, 04:52:41 PM
@potential buyers, If you are interested to wait until it hits $5000, I have a few thousand BTC for sale. Contact me.
Interesting, rpietila seems to believe that the uptrend is running out of steam.
Nahh diversification: http://bitcoinsavingsplan.com/
July 02, 2014, 04:51:49 PM
Somebody tell me that dumping wasn't because of that dude doing a press conference. That would be beyond pathetic.
poeple are ______ 
July 02, 2014, 04:51:31 PM
The guy from Vaurum says Brazil is one of their prime targets. They're coming to get you, Jorge! Brazil will be assimilated...
Why don they try to sell their crap in the US or Europe, where the real money is? Why, hun? 
July 02, 2014, 04:50:48 PM
@potential buyers, If you are interested to wait until it hits $5000, I have a few thousand BTC for sale. Contact me.
Interesting, rpietila seems to believe that the uptrend is running out of steam.
July 02, 2014, 04:48:50 PM
That's fine I'm watching it now.
He has confirmed he is not going to release the amount bid. Says he is not concerned about price fluctuations as he is not a trader and he is in it for the long term investment. Wants to put the coins to good use and allow the coins to proliferate.
Good man, I'm seeing eye to eye with that philosophy. This guy could be a trillionaire at some point. He has confirmed he is not going to release the amount bid. Says he is not concerned about price fluctuations as he is not a trader and he is in it for the long term investment. Wants to put the coins to good use and allow the coins to proliferate.
July 02, 2014, 04:47:44 PM
The field was most level when our weapons were hands, feet, and teeth. It has become steadily more uneven since then: the guys with more money generally have the best defenses and deadliest weapons, and technological advances have only amplified the difference.
No. It might have been nearly level between young, fit men but age a bit, get sick or be a child or female and you start getting power imbalance.Weapons made the playing field much more unequal. Those who had swords, guns, bombers etc. could "own" whole countries or continents, taking the best of the resources and forcing millions to work for their benefit.
Now, throw a few inexpensive firearms in there and suddenly even the weak and unskilled can put down several oppressors without letting their physical advantage get anywhere close. It's a game-changer (physical advantage still plays into things but its importance is greatly diminished).
I should know better than getting into firearm discussion, but...Firearms give advantage to those who use them first; they make attackers more powerful, but are very poor for defense. Those who spend all their time, money, and energy to acquire bigger guns will always prevail over those who try to live a honest life of productive work, even if they have guns. A machine gun trumps a revolver, a bazooka trumps a machine gun, a missile trumps a bazooka, and so on.
Several of my relatives and acquanitances have been victims of armed robberies in their homes. (A student frat next door to my house was robbed a couple of months ago, just after the students moved in. Frats are popular targets, since the robbers can count on collecting 6-12 laptopts and that many smartphones, at the very least.) Some of the victims had guns. One was a gun collector. But not one was able to use a gun for defense; instead, the robbers took their guns too.
In the typical armed robbery, one household member is made hostage when he/she enters or leaves the home, and is forced to open the doors for three or four bandits, guns in hand. Usually handguns, but sometimes heavy machine guns. Perhaps one or two family members could use the house gun that is stored somewhere; but only a totally demented person would try to, in those circumstances. In all those cases, fortunately, the robbers left without harming anyone.
It would make no difference if the victims had machine guns, bazookas, or portable tactical nuclear devices in their homes. The robbers will always be one step ahead, and improvements in weapons technology and availability will only make the gap bigger.
Even in the Wild West, the (relatively) best way to keep robbers at bay was to have the State nearby and on your side, with the biggest guns available. That solution has its risks, of course, but by and large ordinary people with governments with guns have always fared better than outlaws with guns.
hello jorge,
attack is the best defense
July 02, 2014, 04:47:25 PM
@potential buyers, If you are interested to wait until it hits $5000, I have a few thousand BTC for sale. Contact me.
You're selling at $5k
July 02, 2014, 04:47:19 PM
@potential buyers, If you are interested to wait until it hits $5000, I have a few thousand BTC for sale. Contact me.
You're selling at $5k Hey! I'm happy to sell at 4999
July 02, 2014, 04:46:52 PM
Somebody tell me that dumping wasn't because of that dude doing a press conference. That would be beyond pathetic.
They must expect him to say he's going to dump them all tomorrow?
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