Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 27110.

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Quote from: oda.krell on June 20, 2014, 08:34:21 AM

I'm a bear troll myself now, huh? Kind of used inflationary lately. Oh well, better start posting random downtrends while I'm still unignored by a few laggards.

Thanks for postin this, i don´t see us havin a bottom reached yet, and for the first time thinking about sellin my precious Bitcoins.
I couldn´t stand it seeing them going lower again. maybe it´s time to get out of the game! I possibly will buy in again @ around 100-300$
I will NOT enter above! From what i understand about TA and learned in the last weeks, this whole uptrend has been nothing else that another bulltrap on it´s way to the real bottom!
I made the mistake to listen to the false prophets in here.

JayJuenGee?!

Ohh "Brand new JayJuenGee"

I see whats happening here..

He seems far more economical and lucid than version JJG 1.0

Yeah, right..... Tongue

NOT

Cassius

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Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 20, 2014, 11:55:02 AM

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Quote from: JorgeStolfi on June 20, 2014, 05:44:55 AM

I am currently pessimistic about the chances of the price ever getting much higher than now

I bet you 1 bitcoin that some time during the lifespan of bitcoin the price will rise above the $580 range. If this does not happen in the next 5 years, I give you a bitcoin. Sound fair?

Oh and a sell off before July? This consolidation has bear trap written all over it.

For a variety of reasons, including how you have structured this bet, NO ONE with any brain would take this bet... maybe if you changed the reward to dollars, then possibly, who would want a bitcoin that may have little value in 5 years.

Also, maybe change the amount to $700 or some other more reasonable and higher amount.. $580 is the current floating price, as you know.... within 5 years, many would even bet $1000 or more... as a sure thing in their thinking.

I CAN'T TAKE THIS ANY MORE!! BETWEEN THE LINES, MAN. READ BETWEEN THE LINES. IS IT SO HARD?

JayJuanGee

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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

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Quote from: Dragonkiller on June 20, 2014, 08:03:05 AM

Jorge will go down in history as one of the most successful trolls to have ever lived. Intelligent people here still don't understand he's a troll.

Is there anyone who ever said Jorge is not a troll Huh

Oda for one.

I don't think Jorge is a troll, per se -I think he just decided on the thesis for the book he plans to write about The Great Bitcoin Ponzi Scheme long before he showed up here to start doing research - so now he cannot allow himself to be swayed.

Sad because he would probably make more money investing in bitcoin than he is ever likely to make from any such book.

Frequently, people mistakenly believe that others should be motivated by money... which is too simplistic of a framing of motivation(s).

bitcoinsrus

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can anyone tell me why its going down? sub 590 (at time of this post)

JayJuanGee

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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: oda.krell on June 20, 2014, 08:20:51 AM

Quote from: Dragonkiller on June 20, 2014, 08:05:26 AM

Quote from: Parazyd on June 20, 2014, 08:04:19 AM

Quote from: Dragonkiller on June 20, 2014, 08:03:05 AM

Jorge will go down in history as one of the most successful trolls to have ever lived. Intelligent people here still don't understand he's a troll.

Is there anyone who ever said Jorge is not a troll Huh

Oda for one.

Sure. And I stand by that. However, I also pointed out how stubborn (and biased) he can be. But if a majority of this community considers what Jorge does 'trolling' then I'd have to conclude they're thinner skinned than I imagined.

What igorr, mah87 or fonzie does can be justifiably called trolling. Jorge is just being obstinate.

I am o.k. with the fact that sometimes Jorge is being obstinate.... Really, I see nothing wrong with that, and being obstinate could be, in many circumstances a public service. However, it seems that you, Oda, are giving Jorge too much credit b/c sometimes, he is giving misinformation and seeming to do so on purpose. That is the part that bothers me, and maybe you are o.k. with that or possibly, you just have NOT seen any examples of such purposeful misinformation giving from Jorge.... or you could be blinded by your love for Jorge... Cheesy

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JayJuanGee

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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: blatchcorn on June 20, 2014, 06:57:26 AM

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on June 20, 2014, 05:44:55 AM

I am currently pessimistic about the chances of the price ever getting much higher than now

I bet you 1 bitcoin that some time during the lifespan of bitcoin the price will rise above the $580 range. If this does not happen in the next 5 years, I give you a bitcoin. Sound fair?

Oh and a sell off before July? This consolidation has bear trap written all over it.

For a variety of reasons, including how you have structured this bet, NO ONE with any brain would take this bet... maybe if you changed the reward to dollars, then possibly, who would want a bitcoin that may have little value in 5 years.

Also, maybe change the amount to $700 or some other more reasonable and higher amount.. $580 is the current floating price, as you know.... within 5 years, many would even bet $1000 or more... as a sure thing in their thinking.

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DRK has forked again.

JayJuanGee

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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: JorgeStolfi on June 20, 2014, 06:03:35 AM

Quote from: Tzupy on June 20, 2014, 05:53:54 AM

There is a timing problem with the 'buy to dump immediately on exchanges' scenario: [ ... ] The buyer has to be cautious with respect to market movement 27th June - 3rd July.

Yes, he must include that forced delay in his estimate of how much money he would get if he got those coins. It is irrelevant for the optimistic bidder, very important for the pessimistic bidder.

The delay is does NOT make any difference whether a person is optimistic or pessimistic... but it would likely weed out some short term manipulations. In that respect the delay affects long term versus short term calculations regarding those coins.

NONETHELESS, i believe one theory is that many of the bidders would likely already hold a large number of coins - and accordingly, their total investment in bitcoin could be enhanced by any kind of manipulative affect from the coin sales...

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Quote from: Youghoor on June 20, 2014, 10:24:02 AM

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Should I sell BTC before US auction of btc begins or should I hold ?

If you cannot decide on your own what to do or whom to follow, then do nothing. Presumably there is a reason that you bought BTC. If it still exists, hold. If it doesn't or never did, sell.

I bought BTC because concept of decentralization appealed to me. I am not in it for profit as I don't hold much BTC.

You are then part of the P2P Fed replacement. For best results and maximum benefit to all participants in this decentralized experiment you should :

Hold (and accumulate) when liquidity is high - price is falling.
Sell when liquidity is low. Price goes up too fast.

For a rough guide on when the price is too high or too low see https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/stephen-reeds-million-dollar-logistic-model-366214 this projection is a little steep but I hope you get the idea.

kireinaha

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weekend crash/long squeeze coming. This isn:t looking good, is it?

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Quote from: KFR on June 20, 2014, 10:57:01 AM

Just replace what you use. Cool

I know you are right but I just can't bring myself to spend any right now.

KFR

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Per ardua ad luna

Just replace what you use. Cool

Bios Optimus

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Quote from: adamstgBit on June 20, 2014, 10:49:25 AM

its a real pleasure buying things online with bitcoin feels much better than paying with visa.

I wish I could spend some. I got in the game late and I don't want to part with what I have yet.

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Quote from: adamstgBit on June 20, 2014, 10:49:25 AM

its a real pleasure buying things online with bitcoin feels much better than paying with visa.

Not only it feels better, it's also so much cheaper!
Those Visa people really rip us off!

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Quote from: adamstgBit on June 20, 2014, 10:49:25 AM

its a real pleasure buying things online with bitcoin feels much better than paying with visa.

Yup. Fiat is boring

adamstgBit

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its a real pleasure buying things online with bitcoin feels much better than paying with visa.

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Quote from: adamstgBit on June 20, 2014, 10:27:20 AM

its good to participate in the market, helps liquidity and price discovery, every bitcoiner should have a trading account.

+1

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Quote from: SFHere on June 20, 2014, 10:34:54 AM

Quote from: Youghoor on June 20, 2014, 10:24:02 AM

Quote from: N12 on June 20, 2014, 10:18:12 AM

Quote from: Youghoor on June 20, 2014, 10:15:46 AM

Should I sell BTC before US auction of btc begins or should I hold ?

If you cannot decide on your own what to do or whom to follow, then do nothing. Presumably there is a reason that you bought BTC. If it still exists, hold. If it doesn't or never did, sell.

I bought BTC because concept of decentralization appealed to me. I am not in it for profit as I don't hold much BTC.

If it's not about the profit then hold. Support bitcoin's concept of decentralization.

support the concept by accepting it as payment and using it for payment.

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