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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 27533. (Read 26711057 times)

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Look, the thing is that although you make some useful points, and you are consistently polite in doing so, you are becoming increasingly strident. The fact that you very selectively choose what to argue - and a lot of people have made some very good points against some of your mistaken assumptions recently - means that it's not really worth engaging with you. Literally no point, because you appear to ignore anything that doesn't fit with what you already believe and move on.
Obviously I argue while I believe I am right.  If a reply is convincing, I let the poster have the last word.  Isn't that enough?

But there are MANY reasons why I am skeptical of bitcoin's success, and many of the replies that I get are not only unconvincing, thet are just countering facts with statements of faith:

   Me: "Goevernments can effectively ban bitcoin, see China for example."
   Them: "Bitcoin is like the internet, it will find a way around any obstacle."

   Me: "Bitcoins may be scarce, but there are plenty of cyptocoins with equivalent or better protocols"
  Them: "Cryptocoins will die and bitcoin will not."

   Me: "Bitcoin is now more prone to theft and fraud than credit cards, see the numbers."
   Them: "Bitcoin will be much safer when it matures."

   Me: "Mining is already concentrated in a few companies, they may form a cartel and become like the bankers."
   Them: "It is a free market so that will not happen."

   Me: "The Satoshi 2009 blockchain already assigns XX% of all the money to a few thousand people."
   Them: "Wealth distribution will improve with time."

And so on and on.  Obviously I am not convinced by such answers, but how can I argue with statements of faith?





Ban this guy, he is trolling, spreading FUD, flaming and spamming lies.
hero member
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Look, the thing is that although you make some useful points, and you are consistently polite in doing so, you are becoming increasingly strident. The fact that you very selectively choose what to argue - and a lot of people have made some very good points against some of your mistaken assumptions recently - means that it's not really worth engaging with you. Literally no point, because you appear to ignore anything that doesn't fit with what you already believe and move on.
Obviously I argue while I believe I am right.  If a reply is convincing, I let the poster have the last word.  Isn't that enough?

But there are MANY reasons why I am skeptical of bitcoin's success, and many of the replies that I get are not only unconvincing, thet are just countering facts with statements of faith:

   Me: "Goevernments can effectively ban bitcoin, see China for example."
   Them: "Bitcoin is like the internet, it will find a way around any obstacle."

   Me: "Bitcoins may be scarce, but there are plenty of cyptocoins with equivalent or better protocols"
  Them: "Cryptocoins will die and bitcoin will not."

   Me: "Bitcoin is now more prone to theft and fraud than credit cards, see the numbers."
   Them: "Bitcoin will be much safer when it matures."

   Me: "Mining is already concentrated in a few companies, they may form a cartel and become like the bankers."
   Them: "It is a free market so that will not happen."

   Me: "The Satoshi 2009 blockchain already assigns XX% of all the money to a few thousand people."
   Them: "Wealth distribution will improve with time."

And so on and on.  Obviously I am not convinced by such answers, but how can I argue with statements of faith?



legendary
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These bets people want to make on here.

Does this have something todo with: Look how big my internet cojones are? Enough with the bets, lmfao.


We need break out charts. LOTS of them. in 3.. 2..

Yeah, and it always seems to be really big bets so they can make with some blah-blah-blah as an excuse to back out.
legendary
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You're never too old to think young.
Jesus fucking christ I'd rather read about China banning bitcoin and be inundated with bear fud than read 5 pages all about our resident academic.

Can we move on... Please ?!

LOL
legendary
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Jesus fucking christ I'd rather read about China banning bitcoin and be inundated with bear fud than read 5 pages all about our resident academic.

Can we move on... Please ?!

While I agree Jorge with you in Jorge Stolfi principle, it is Jorge Jorge Jorge important to remeJorge Stolfimber that we are morally obliged to JORGE JORGE JORGE
member
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It looks like the rocketlaunch has missed the train
4h RSI does not follow the 30min RSI
perhaps next time in about 8h when 30min RSI is down again...  Sad
 
 
sr. member
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These bets people want to make on here.

Does this have something todo with: Look how big my internet cojones are? Enough with the bets, lmfao.


We need break out charts. LOTS of them. in 3.. 2..
legendary
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legendary
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price will never go below 570 again.

It was below 570 less than an hour ago Tongue

never again.

Want to bet? I say lower than 570 within a year versus you say not lower than 570 within a year (on Bitstamp). If I'm right you send me 0.5 BTC if you're right I send you the equivalent of $285 in Bitcoin on 28/5/2015 Cheesy

This offer is valid for 10 minutes Wink

i prefer not to gamble and just buy and hodl

Perfectly okay (and expected Wink)
legendary
Activity: 1904
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Trusted Bitcoiner
price will never go below 570 again.

It was below 570 less than an hour ago Tongue

never again.

Want to bet? I say lower than 570 within a year versus you say not lower than 570 within a year (on Bitstamp). If I'm right you send me 0.5 BTC if you're right I send you the equivalent of $285 in Bitcoin on 28/5/2015 Cheesy

This offer is valid for 10 minutes Wink

i prefer not to gamble and just buy and hodl
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125
price will never go below 570 again.

It was below 570 less than an hour ago Tongue

never again.

Want to bet? I say lower than 570 within a year versus you say not lower than 570 within a year (on Bitstamp). If I'm right you send me 0.5 BTC if you're right I send you the equivalent of $285 in Bitcoin on 28/5/2015 Cheesy

This offer is valid for 10 minutes Wink
hero member
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Jesus fucking christ I'd rather read about China banning bitcoin and be inundated with bear fud than read 5 pages all about our resident academic.

Can we move on... Please ?!
sr. member
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Crawling to that 580,-. One step at a time.

YES. YES. I CAN FEEL IT. nomnom
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
I just bought my first bitcoin. Exciting. Could some please share the actual S.R. 2.0 link. Thanks.

I really like what you did there.
That newbie is not me.

The Bitcoin Goddess is NOT PLEASED.  Guess what She does when She is not pleased.


Yes, Jorge, I'm well aware of that. I thought it was a good joke, is all.
Look, the thing is that although you make some useful points, and you are consistently polite in doing so, you are becoming increasingly strident. The fact that you very selectively choose what to argue - and a lot of people have made some very good points against some of your mistaken assumptions recently - means that it's not really worth engaging with you. Literally no point, because you appear to ignore anything that doesn't fit with what you already believe and move on.
That, unfortunately, effectively makes you a very polite troll. And I mean troll in its proper web-forum sense here, not just 'someone who doesn't agree with you'.




Thanks, Cassius. Nearly 100% my own sentiment (although I hesitate to put a "very polite troll" into the same mental category as a regular, barely intelligible, run-of-the-mill troll... but that's a matter of taste I admit). Please note the unnecessary highlighted parts that I especially agree with Cheesy

It is a shame. But then, I don't think the Speculation thread is the right place for Jorge, anyway.

Previously, Jorge said that he was posting here, in this thread, b/c it had a lot of traffic, and he could turn around many posts in a day, b/c of the high traffic of this thread.  I am fairly certain he is living in lala land now, b/c he is achieving so much attention.... whether negative or NOT.
donator
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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.
price will never go below 570 again.
The logarithmic overlay verifies this.
legendary
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How did Jorge convert to a newbie?  Are there two Jorge accounts by the same person /bot or by different peeps/bots?

There's real Jorge and fake Jorge. Fake Jorge is far more entertaining.


Bitcoin magic, or a bug in the blockchain  Smiley

Slight spelling difference.... Stofli vs Stolfi

A fork?
legendary
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Sine secretum non libertas
no it can't

i said never again!

 Angry

Oh alright.  What if it rotated into the complex plane, and back in under 570?  That wouldn't be below, it would be *around* 570.
legendary
Activity: 1904
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Trusted Bitcoiner
price will never go below 570 again.

It was below 570 less than an hour ago Tongue

never again.

could just skip 570 and go straight to 560.

no it can't

i said never again!

 Angry
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
price will never go below 570 again.

It was below 570 less than an hour ago Tongue

never again.

could just skip 570 and go straight to 560.
legendary
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Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
Look, ... you make some useful points, and you are consistently polite in doing so... you very selectively choose ... some very good points against ... mistaken assumptions ... it's ... really worth engaging with you. Literally ... because you appear ...very polite...

Beware (t)ruly (r)ecommended (o)r (l)audable (l)ogic bearing (f)acts yo(u) (d)islike.
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