You need to select market cap by total supply.
Hm but did it lose 38% the last 24 hours? What's going on?
Edit: Ok, nevermind...
So 5500 coins to 600$ on Stamp. Let's see...
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May 22, 2014, 05:58:56 PM
Hm but did it lose 38% the last 24 hours? What's going on?
Edit: Ok, nevermind...
So 5500 coins to 600$ on Stamp. Let's see...
May 22, 2014, 05:58:46 PM
In other words, the current exchange rate implies that 520/1.52 = 342 Bitcoin is only 342 times more valuable than MRO right now. This multiple seems way too low for me (>1:10,000 seems more correct) so at least relative to Bitcoin MRO is vastly overpriced in my opinion.
I would be breaking my promise if I were to say more than that while this is reasonable if you accept the precedent of the implied discounting curve derived from bitcoin's historical price series, I have two counter-arguments, (1) that the bitcoin discounting curve was extreme because crypto itself was much less well-proven as a concept and technology -- the threats which btc defeated are unlikely to arise again, and (2) that the bitcoin discounting curve was very long because adoption ground had not been broken, while the mro adoption phase, if it manifests at all, will almost certainly be much, much shorter. Therefore, I will have to defer any calculations based on re-parameterizing the discount curve to the MRO thread, where it belongs.
Why is MRO only on 1 exchange? Is that on purpose (like Mastercoin) or do they have inadequate leadership. Its not hard to get listed on multiple exchanges.
Afaik 3. cryptonote, swaphole and poloniex.
Still does not address my question. Why are they not on any of the larger exchanges?
And what does MRO provide that Darkcoin does not?
May 22, 2014, 05:58:18 PM
You need to select market cap by total supply.
And then sort by trading volume.
Until today, I always had a good chuckle when Ripple went from 2nd spot to 'off the screen' after that
May 22, 2014, 05:58:04 PM
Let's find out whether someone really wants to sell over 1500 BTC @ $530 
That wall is fake.
May 22, 2014, 05:56:21 PM
In other words, the current exchange rate implies that 520/1.52 = 342 Bitcoin is only 342 times more valuable than MRO right now. This multiple seems way too low for me (>1:10,000 seems more correct) so at least relative to Bitcoin MRO is vastly overpriced in my opinion.
I would be breaking my promise if I were to say more than that while this is reasonable if you accept the precedent of the implied discounting curve derived from bitcoin's historical price series, I have two counter-arguments, (1) that the bitcoin discounting curve was extreme because crypto itself was much less well-proven as a concept and technology -- the threats which btc defeated are unlikely to arise again, and (2) that the bitcoin discounting curve was very long because adoption ground had not been broken, while the mro adoption phase, if it manifests at all, will almost certainly be much, much shorter. Therefore, I will have to defer any calculations based on re-parameterizing the discount curve to the MRO thread, where it belongs.
Why is MRO only on 1 exchange? Is that on purpose (like Mastercoin) or do they have inadequate leadership. Its not hard to get listed on multiple exchanges.
Afaik 3. cryptonote, swaphole and poloniex.
May 22, 2014, 05:55:30 PM
When do you guys think the first sell-off will be?
Will it crash from 600-400 then back up? 800-600? 1000-400? Previous ATH?
How do we agree on a previous ATH when the price was different on all the exchanges plus mtgox is gone? There was about a 1-day period at virwox where you could have sold 1btc for 300,000 SLL and sold those for $1320. So did virwox have the highest ATH at $1320? or do we go by bitstamp or mtgox or huobi ATH?
When comparing the "point of maximum financial risk" chart with a standard bubble chart, do we overlap the risk chart twice? Going through all the risk emotions quickly during the first sell off? So we should hit a brief euphoria phase near the top of the first sell off?
I believe we will continue going through these bubble fractals until the public phase reaches final saturation. In the previous bubbles, each time we reach the public phase it doesn't absorb everyone so there is room left over for more bubbles. Bitcoin won't stop making bubbles until we've blown them in everyone's faces.
Will it crash from 600-400 then back up? 800-600? 1000-400? Previous ATH?
How do we agree on a previous ATH when the price was different on all the exchanges plus mtgox is gone? There was about a 1-day period at virwox where you could have sold 1btc for 300,000 SLL and sold those for $1320. So did virwox have the highest ATH at $1320? or do we go by bitstamp or mtgox or huobi ATH?
When comparing the "point of maximum financial risk" chart with a standard bubble chart, do we overlap the risk chart twice? Going through all the risk emotions quickly during the first sell off? So we should hit a brief euphoria phase near the top of the first sell off?
I believe we will continue going through these bubble fractals until the public phase reaches final saturation. In the previous bubbles, each time we reach the public phase it doesn't absorb everyone so there is room left over for more bubbles. Bitcoin won't stop making bubbles until we've blown them in everyone's faces.
There are sell-offs all the time. You mean, how far will we get before we see the first major retracement, right?
My guess is ~620.
If I as the "uber Bull" have been quiet today it is because BitchicksHusband informed me just this morning that he had to "sell off" BTC2 yesterday to pay some bills (partially because of Kings playoff tickets and his monthly payment for his new car ). I said, "Right during a rally!!?" I would have rather left some balance on our credit card and kept the coins! Don't come between a Chick and her coin stash!!!
But that said, some of us are not planning on selling off until much later than $620! If I had my way, I would just wait until $100,000 per coin.
We're talking different time frames.
I'm sure you know by now it never goes up in a straight line. ~620 is simply my bet when we'll see the first large enough profit taking to make us take a step back and catch our breath.
Oda,
I spent an hour last night mapping out all the major resistance levels from here to 1000. 620 was not on my list.
Why is that number significant to you?
Closer to 630, but from 620 on (if we get there, that is) I will start getting interested. Anyway, daily SMA200, and 78% fibo down 710->340.
May 22, 2014, 05:54:08 PM
https://ripple.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6862&start=2000#p49125
That post is by a Ripple employee. Looks like there won't be a buy out.
*edit*
Didn't notice there was already a coindesk article.
http://www.coindesk.com/price-ripple-xrp-plummets-co-founde-9-billion-selloff/
Quote
Ripple Labs made various proposals to Jed, Chris, and I. But, was unable to come to agreement with Jed. We learned of Jed's future sales plans via the forums as the rest of you."
That post is by a Ripple employee. Looks like there won't be a buy out.
*edit*
Didn't notice there was already a coindesk article.
http://www.coindesk.com/price-ripple-xrp-plummets-co-founde-9-billion-selloff/
May 22, 2014, 05:53:46 PM
Let's find out whether someone really wants to sell over 1500 BTC @ $530
May 22, 2014, 05:52:58 PM
In other words, the current exchange rate implies that 520/1.52 = 342 Bitcoin is only 342 times more valuable than MRO right now. This multiple seems way too low for me (>1:10,000 seems more correct) so at least relative to Bitcoin MRO is vastly overpriced in my opinion.
I would be breaking my promise if I were to say more than that while this is reasonable if you accept the precedent of the implied discounting curve derived from bitcoin's historical price series, I have two counter-arguments, (1) that the bitcoin discounting curve was extreme because crypto itself was much less well-proven as a concept and technology -- the threats which btc defeated are unlikely to arise again, and (2) that the bitcoin discounting curve was very long because adoption ground had not been broken, while the mro adoption phase, if it manifests at all, will almost certainly be much, much shorter. Therefore, I will have to defer any calculations based on re-parameterizing the discount curve to the MRO thread, where it belongs.
Why is MRO only on 1 exchange? Is that on purpose (like Mastercoin) or do they have inadequate leadership. Its not hard to get listed on multiple exchanges.
not really a fan of the gazillions of Alts but MRO is actually a good coin and has legs.
May 22, 2014, 05:52:26 PM
You need to select market cap by total supply.
May 22, 2014, 05:51:51 PM
Its time.
May 22, 2014, 05:51:01 PM
wall at 530 seems a real one....
The Bitfinex $530 looks pretty easy.. Only about $50 a moment ago. Now it's at $100.
May 22, 2014, 05:50:13 PM
In other words, the current exchange rate implies that 520/1.52 = 342 Bitcoin is only 342 times more valuable than MRO right now. This multiple seems way too low for me (>1:10,000 seems more correct) so at least relative to Bitcoin MRO is vastly overpriced in my opinion.
I would be breaking my promise if I were to say more than that while this is reasonable if you accept the precedent of the implied discounting curve derived from bitcoin's historical price series, I have two counter-arguments, (1) that the bitcoin discounting curve was extreme because crypto itself was much less well-proven as a concept and technology -- the threats which btc defeated are unlikely to arise again, and (2) that the bitcoin discounting curve was very long because adoption ground had not been broken, while the mro adoption phase, if it manifests at all, will almost certainly be much, much shorter. Therefore, I will have to defer any calculations based on re-parameterizing the discount curve to the MRO thread, where it belongs.
Why is MRO only on 1 exchange? Is that on purpose (like Mastercoin) or do they have inadequate leadership. Its not hard to get listed on multiple exchanges.
May 22, 2014, 05:50:07 PM
last chance for a whale to get cheap coins. 530 will be eaten like nothing.
May 22, 2014, 05:49:51 PM
May 22, 2014, 05:49:44 PM
Hahahah bet that clown Mah is crying himself to sleep right now!!!
Good riddance to bad rubbish!
Good riddance to bad rubbish!
Listen, whether that chap's posts annoyed you or not - and I'm one of the many people that had him on ignore for a long time - he's probably losing a lot of money right now. That pain is real.
I will never understand the relish with which people can treat other people's losses. All the hand-wringing, cheering and jeering while somebody is actually suffering baffles and upsets me. He didn't do you any real harm - he didn't do anything to any of us. He just made a bad call and now he's suffering.
Spare a thought for how you'd feel if the positions were reversed. I know you didn't make the bad call - congrats - but what if you had? Or perhaps if you'd just been the victim of an unexpected attack on the horse that you had backed. How would you feel about all the sick laughter and pointing while you watched your life savings disappear and very real financial hardship begin to press in on you and possibly your family.
It's like slowing down to rubber-neck at a car crash at the side of the road... and then laughing at the gore rather than empathising with the victims.
Sorry for singling out your post by the way - yours wasn't the worst example by far.
its nice to be nice
May 22, 2014, 05:48:57 PM
In other words, the current exchange rate implies that 520/1.52 = 342 Bitcoin is only 342 times more valuable than MRO right now. This multiple seems way too low for me (>1:10,000 seems more correct) so at least relative to Bitcoin MRO is vastly overpriced in my opinion.
I would be breaking my promise if I were to say more than that while this is reasonable if you accept the precedent of the implied discounting curve derived from bitcoin's historical price series, I have two counter-arguments, (1) that the bitcoin discounting curve was extreme because crypto itself was much less well-proven as a concept and technology -- the threats which btc defeated are unlikely to arise again, and (2) that the bitcoin discounting curve was very long because adoption ground had not been broken, while the mro adoption phase, if it manifests at all, will almost certainly be much, much shorter. Therefore, I will have to defer any calculations based on re-parameterizing the discount curve to the MRO thread, where it belongs.
Fair enough, but this is the best valuation technique I have available to altcoins.
Disclosure: I have no investments in any altcoin right now. I've held (smallish positions) in LTC and PPC before which I both sold near their peak (which is always luck for a large part).
May 22, 2014, 05:47:43 PM
Huobi seems to be the only market with a surplus of money... hopefully they have enough to keep this rally going.
It is what I was thinking. For an exchange who is supposed to be cut off from banks and without margin trading it is not that bad
okcoin is leading, huobi just following, then bitstamp. i followed the charts.
... we're solving the global puzzle to make the price of Bitcoin go up
May 22, 2014, 05:44:19 PM
Hahahah bet that clown Mah is crying himself to sleep right now!!!
Good riddance to bad rubbish!
Good riddance to bad rubbish!
Listen, whether that chap's posts annoyed you or not - and I'm one of the many people that had him on ignore for a long time - he's probably losing a lot of money right now. That pain is real.
I will never understand the relish with which people can treat other people's losses. All the hand-wringing, cheering and jeering while somebody is actually suffering baffles and upsets me. He didn't do you any real harm - he didn't do anything to any of us. He just made a bad call and now he's suffering.
Spare a thought for how you'd feel if the positions were reversed. I know you didn't make the bad call - congrats - but what if you had? Or perhaps if you'd just been the victim of an unexpected attack on the horse that you had backed. How would you feel about all the sick laughter and pointing while you watched your life savings disappear and very real financial hardship begin to press in on you and possibly your family.
It's like slowing down to rubber-neck at a car crash at the side of the road... and then laughing at the gore rather than empathising with the victims.
Sorry for singling out your post by the way - yours wasn't the worst example by far.
May 22, 2014, 05:43:00 PM
I told several friends locally the price would rise on the 20th, the tuesday after the 2014 conference here in Amsterdam. looks like I was right, 400e so close
I bought back at €350, a portion I sold near the €300 range, not much just over 10coins. bought back for a small loss instead of just withdrawing the euro.
I bought back at €350, a portion I sold near the €300 range, not much just over 10coins. bought back for a small loss instead of just withdrawing the euro.
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