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legendary
Activity: 1870
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can we ban fonzie yet? I know most have him on ignore and I do too, but he is LITERALLY in every single thread today spouting nonsense. I know he posts normally now and then, but today is ridiculous and everyone keeps quoting him. he must be short and trying to get the market to crash any way he can.

How is the possible liquidation of long positions on Bitfinex, and thus a corresponding decline in the market, "nonsense"?


btw - I'm long.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1037
Trusted Bitcoiner
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1070
Never forget:

Bitstamp:


Whole bid volume
11,146,031.76 USD

Ratio
1 : 2.83


Bitfinex:

Total sum of active swaps
USD    15,794,084.87 USD

 Smiley




Do you have buy orders set with your shorts Fonzie or do you have an number you are waiting for?

I´m long term shorting.

25% will be closed @360
25%  "                 @310
25% "                  @250
25% "                   @200

stop loss for my shorts is actually @ 519

I have my shorts scattered from 426 - 406 at $2 intervals.  If figured the market would peck away from $425-$400 and swing back up a few times. So the market closed out 5 of my 10 positions last night. Before I went to bed, I then open 3 more shorts at each of the 3 Fib retracement levels. I woke up, two were hit, one missed by a $1.

So its rinse and repeat for me until we get to 405ish - where I expect we will have a final battle. I'll decide where to go from there.
sr. member
Activity: 546
Merit: 250
can we ban fonzie yet? I know most have him on ignore and I do too, but he is LITERALLY in every single thread today spouting nonsense. I know he posts normally now and then, but today is ridiculous and everyone keeps quoting him. he must be short and trying to get the market to crash any way he can.

Just burn the books, kill the commies. Let´s get rid of all these annoying problems.

I don't think Fonzie wants the market to crash and I don't see him campaigning against Bitcoin outside of these forums. I think Fonzie has has benefited many people on this forums whether they will admit to or not. Just understand his perspective.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Moderator
Never forget:

Bitstamp:


Whole bid volume
11,146,031.76 USD

Ratio
1 : 2.83


Bitfinex:

Total sum of active swaps
USD    15,794,084.87 USD

 Smiley


Do you have buy orders set with your shorts Fonzie or do you have an number you are waiting for?

I´m long term shorting.

25% will be closed @360
25%  "                 @310
25% "                  @255
25% "                   @200

stop loss for my shorts is actually @ 519
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1070
Never forget:

Bitstamp:


Whole bid volume
11,146,031.76 USD

Ratio
1 : 2.83


Bitfinex:

Total sum of active swaps
USD    15,794,084.87 USD

 Smiley


Do you have buy orders set with your shorts Fonzie or do you have a number you are waiting for?
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1037
Trusted Bitcoiner
member
Activity: 88
Merit: 10
china attempting pump again, the west unfazed. good to see
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Moderator
can we ban fonzie yet? I know most have him on ignore and I do too, but he is LITERALLY in every single thread today spouting nonsense. I know he posts normally now and then, but today is ridiculous and everyone keeps quoting him. he must be short and trying to get the market to crash any way he can.

Just burn the books, kill the commies. Let´s get rid of all these annoying problems.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Moderator
On stamp there are 115.98btc order all down the order book. In intervalls of 5$, so 69. I think this is one guy and he is biding for around 8000btc. Can somebody explain this to me.Why does he use always the same amount. So that people know that it is from one guy?

Easier to do it by making all the USD sums the same or all the BTC sums the same.

He (or, possibly someone else with that same amount- no guarantee) has a 115.98btc ask as well, so they are probably just trying to flip for a quick profit.

One alternative theory...   as Bobby Lee suggested in a discussion at Coinsummit, it is a 'possible way' the exchange can make the order book look fatter than it is, and these coins all disappear as the price nears them.

He was suggesting this is how dodgy exchanges boosted the books (and price).  It was in response to questions about 'fake volume' in China.  He said it was the reason you saw Litecoin drop to a dollar at one point recently.  A market sell order dropped in and all the 'fake' coin buys under the price disappeared as they were nearly hit, meaning an apparently 'freak' crash happened (there were far less coins to sell into than it appeared).

But of course, 'Western' exchanges would never do things like bolstering prices like that.

Interesting, especially the conjunction to the LTC drop. That makes a lot of sense now. Thanks
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
can we ban fonzie yet? I know most have him on ignore and I do too, but he is LITERALLY in every single thread today spouting nonsense. I know he posts normally now and then, but today is ridiculous and everyone keeps quoting him. he must be short and trying to get the market to crash any way he can.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1199
Promising ... much better than a chart from -12h.

But this is now impossible to predict what would be next.
So far I was predicting that price will go up Smiley from it was 480$...
And now I dunno what would be next.
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1748
On stamp there are 115.98btc order all down the order book. In intervalls of 5$, so 69. I think this is one guy and he is biding for around 8000btc. Can somebody explain this to me.Why does he use always the same amount. So that people know that it is from one guy?

Easier to do it by making all the USD sums the same or all the BTC sums the same.

He (or, possibly someone else with that same amount- no guarantee) has a 115.98btc ask as well, so they are probably just trying to flip for a quick profit.

One alternative theory...   as Bobby Lee suggested in a discussion at Coinsummit, it is a 'possible way' the exchange can make the order book look fatter than it is, and these coins all disappear as the price nears them.

He was suggesting this is how dodgy exchanges boosted the books (and price).  It was in response to questions about 'fake volume' in China.  He said it was the reason you saw Litecoin drop to a dollar at one point recently.  A market sell order dropped in and all the 'fake' coin buys under the price disappeared as they were nearly hit, meaning an apparently 'freak' crash happened (there were far less coins to sell into than it appeared).

But of course, 'Western' exchanges would never do things like bolstering prices like that.
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1000
On stamp there are 115.98btc order all down the order book. In intervalls of 5$, so 69. I think this is one guy and he is biding for around 8000btc. Can somebody explain this to me.Why does he use always the same amount. So that people know that it is from one guy?

Easier to do it by making all the USD sums the same or all the BTC sums the same.

He (or, possibly someone else with that same amount- no guarantee) has a 115.98btc ask as well, so they are probably just trying to flip for a quick profit.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
Moderator
Never forget:

Bitstamp:


Whole bid volume
11,146,031.76 USD

Ratio
1 : 2.83


Bitfinex:

Total sum of active swaps
USD    15,794,084.87 USD

 Smiley
legendary
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Merit: 1037
Trusted Bitcoiner
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 500
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I´m glad to see that even the 0.1 BTC actions during Huobis sleep time are mirrored on Bitfinex/Bitstamp with 10-30x the voulme  Cheesy Cheesy.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250

In a flash is somewhat too optimistic imo

my 2 cents:

I am surprised all those bears could not reach/break 800 700 600 500400 steadily yet..
Somewhat amazed by this bullish support or weak bearish power..

I have heard that somewhere before...

Please dont edit quotes if they are not your own,.. thank you.

Anyway I have never talked about those numbers, all I care about is the 400 (for me another chance to jump in with some more coins).

I expected it to break already,.. but these bears are just too weak ( at the moment )

Aki4Real : 

Hopefully, you ARE ALREADY BUYING ON AN ONGOING BASIS and NOT waiting for some kind of "cheap coinz" break through? b/c in the end, there may NOT be that much difference between buying BTC at $400 or  at $450.. even though of course, each of us would like to buy BTC at the lowest price possible... .YET, in the end,  in BTC land, we do NOT know for sure where the price is gonna go... .even though there are quite a few smug predictions going both wayz.


Here’s my BTC buy  increments over the last two month.

590.70
668.80
595.00
606.16
592.37
569.61
537.20
576.00
545.55
524.00

484.02
462.61
462.99
455.56
408.64

520.00
580.00
678.85
653.00
610.00
623.50
604.08
585.50
550.19
581.93
566.12
517.03

485.92
525.48
482.53
452.70
446.44
476.00
439.82
428.68
418.60


Even though, at the moment, BTC price seems to be pretty decent (and low / cheap ☺ ), I am about tapped out on buying.  Nonetheless, I would like to buy some more, if the price were to dip into the below $430 range.  Of course, if we know for sure that BTC prices are going to dip lower than $430, then I would wait to buy at the lower price. 

It seems to me that nothing is for sure in BTC land.  ☺   Yet I am gambling that in the next couple of years, we will be up.. - hopefully up at least higher than my mutual funds... which I expect to be about 12% higher (6% per year on average) than my investment amount.


Hi Jay,

Thanks for your elaborate post, nice to see you have chosen to buy at a lot of different prices.
It seems your average buy price is not too high.

I have not been buying continously, because I do not want to pass the point where I am overdedicated into BTC (where I would lose sleep over its price dropping or rising).
My funds are allocated in different currencies (not only Crypto, though I believe this is the future).
To protect myself from my itchy triggerfinger buying more BTC I've set my next buy at 400 or below, discipline makes or breaks good trades Smiley

Good luck!
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
Warning warning, flatlining on low volume again  Undecided

Why? We had over 1000 on stamp the last hour and at this hour (17min) 250 coins so far?
1000 coins per hour = 24,000 coins per day = low volume. Although it's better than when were in the 600s with 8000 volume per day.

Ah ok, so the mean daily volume the past 30 days was about 16 000 and 50% over the mean volume is considered as "low". In january the mean volume was maybe 10k per day. 24 000 would be pretty decent.
1. The volume has always been low on stamp. It symptomatic of a problem, a bubble, or a reliance on other exchanges. In January we had mtgox and all the chinese exchanges leading. Now with the chinese exchanges leaving and bitstamp taking the role of the primary exchange, it's going to need to pick up much more volume.

2. In terms of reversing from a short-term downtrend, reversal days have always had 100K+ volume.
hero member
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hm
Warning warning, flatlining on low volume again  Undecided

Why? We had over 1000 on stamp the last hour and at this hour (17min) 250 coins so far?
1000 coins per hour = 24,000 coins per day = low volume. Although it's better than when were in the 600s with 8000 volume per day.

Ah ok, so the mean daily volume the past 30 days was about 16 000 and 50% over the mean volume is considered as "low". In january the mean volume was maybe 10k per day. 24 000 would be pretty decent.
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