Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 28543. (Read 26709428 times)

Thx... I do believe, though, to the extent that we are NOT battling trolls and other stupid ass disinformation posts, there is a lot of potential in this speculation thread to discuss how various world events and world circumstances play into the price of bitcoin and the expected increases in adoption.   There are so many countries or groups of people who likely going to recognize bitcoin prospects and to incorporate bitcoin related technologies into their lives.   Surely, the world will NOT be saved in any quick or meaningful way b/c there are likely going to be a lot of battles ahead... including competing and deceptive btc-like imitations.

#3 spotted in the wild!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=554625.0;topicseen

I'm clad to see that you see investing into alts as weird.

Also, I'm not accusing anyone of manipulation. All I'm saying that these constant errors of calling false bottoms and trend reversals come either out of stupidity or we are dealing with deliberate acts of misdirection.

Off Topic but fitting:  Bucephalus Bouncing Ball


http://youtu.be/uIeA2ct5Sew

Dear all,

I love bitcoin.

99% because it's such a cool idea... it's really amazing it took us this long to realise it, and 1% because I like the idea I could make some money by doing something that seems (deceptively) easy.

The idea of crypto (to me) is a bit like evolution. We had a bunch of stupid ideas to explain how animals worked and then along came a theory that seemed to fit pretty well. When you hear it, (at least for me) "well of course that's how it works!". Simple. That's what I thought when I first heard about BTC "well course that's how we should do it!"

My problem is, and I've heard this a few times (even said it myself) "we're in a new wild west". I hear something like, well Gox, Neo, China et al are getting weeded out, and somehow "we'll be left with only the good guys".

Well, we had a "wild west" already and take look at how that turned out, USA full of good guys? (I'm talking mostly about the ones who run it of course). Never underestimate the ability of douche bags to take control and make life crappy for everyone else.

I love BTC because I'm a geek first, and a trader ... well defo somewhere waaay down the list coz I suck at it. But I still love it.

But anyway it seems to me like BTC is like when your parents are away and you've got a house party. You want as many people to come as possible because then you think your party will be amazing, but then a bunch assholes turn up, none of the nice guys are big enough to do anything about it, and then the party is ruined for most and awesome for only a few. I'm starting to wonder if that's how life works.

Until nice guys really learn how to play hard ball and keep douche bags out (at least keep them in check), no matter how good an idea crypto currency is it will still turn to shit.

I am a hardcore bitcoiner/crypto whatever, not because I will make money but because it's a good idea. That's all it needs to be to get my love.

If my time comes to defend it, I will do my best.

I am with it all the way to the moon or to the ocean floor.

PS: The banter on this thread is epic, thank you all for something interesting to read while I drink my coffee, move 1's and 0's and watch progress bars for a living.

Long live BitCoin!

You are putting words in my mouth and then arguing them.  Maybe you should get your head out of your ass and look at what people are actually saying instead of building your own fantasy world.  Either way, I am done with you.

There's way more good news than bad news right now, especially since China's ban is priced-in since January.
Look at that:
http://www.coindesk.com/congressional-hearing-explores-costs-benefits-small-business-bitcoin-use/
http://www.coindesk.com/bank-montreal-open-rekindling-partnerships-bitcoin-businesses/
http://www.coindesk.com/robocoin-machine-heats-competition-londons-bitcoin-atms/

For every bad news, there's at least 2 good news. And consider the fact that most bear already sold most of their coins.
That's a recipe for a bull-market folks'.

First of all you are getting into some kind of weird idea that alts are better than BTC... and possibly, you may be able to get more of a pump out of the several hundred alt options... and you can play your information as you will.  I am sure that you will tell us after the fact how much money you made in alts... which may or may NOT be true and hard to prove... Further this is NOT a thread about alts.  Anyhow, many on this thread believe BTC is the main man.. or the main coin at least for the foreseeable future.. next year or two.. even though there could be profit in other coins. and even though another coin may come to compete with BTC.   At the moment, BTC does NOT really have any meaningful competition in the long term.. even though there may be some good investment opportunities in some various and or random alt coins... depending on which one(s) you choose.

Second:  it is all fine and dandy that you want to tell us your intentions and your investment plans; however, when you start to accuse us with manipulation, you are acting like a a jerk... and for what purpose?  Do you have something that you want to contribute to the thread, then no problem... give us your perspective - that is what each of us are doing giving perspective.. .. so a bull or a bear for that matter is NOT automatically manipulating.. unless you have some specific information about such manipulation, it is NOT really necessary to accuse others of manipulation.

The start of the previous bubble was different, and the end of the previous bubble was different. Only thing that they had similar, was that they were both bitcoin bubbles. To overly simplifying things and saying that the trend will be the same as the previous trend, is dumb in my book.

I think that you guys should read up on finance, economy, entrepreneurship and the general idea trading stocks. Ignorance causes lot's of conflict here. I'm getting a little tired of it, because at first I will be called names and ridiculed, but when I in turn start to call the same people names and ridicule them, then they will start to cry that I'm cruel towards them.

Ya really lol I hear ya 

OK Thanks.  That does sound as if it is more significant than what had been announced in December 2013 - especially if it is unclear about whether there will be effective work arounds.  I do have some confidence that the Chinese will find some work arounds; however, if there is movement from the "open" to the "black market," then that would likely dry up a lot of volume... and in that regard, it would make sense that we may continue to get considerable downward pressure on BTC prices to account for these current circumstances. 

Regarding price, though it does still seem too soon to sell b/c it remains somewhat unclear that prices will for sure continue to drop or whether the most impact of the news has already been priced in to the current price.  The news will continue to make us a little more on pins and needles, so additional negative news could cause some further price pressures.. especially given what appears to be ongoing relatively low volume.

Please buy,  much buy.

I think now might would be a good time to consider buying BTC...  

You just have to adore all these freshly registered ppl with 10 posts showing up and explaining the true nature of things and what is really going to happen.

What gives you the idea that you can call people dumb and manipulators, when the counter-example of your "basic knowledge" is staring you right in the face with the previous fricking bubble.  

Really?

Nice" You best believe, that if BTC gets widely excepted in the US and has some decent regulation, China won't just sit there and let the world pass it by with new technology. Soon we will be hearing news that PBOC has reversed it decision to ban bitcoin and is installing ATMS through out Beijing. Then people will be clamoring to buy some BTC again lol

What gives you the idea, that something this dynamic like the crypto market, will continue the same simple pattern of expansion year after year?
Do you really think think that the pattern of previous years is all that we need, and we shouldn't concentrate on issues like BTC loosing the trust of general public, or losing any of the business that is left in China?

Really?

Great response btw

That is almost like predicting BTC prices.  Is it really going to happen, and if so when, and by how much... whatever... sounds like the topic of another thread, even though these kinds of events could affect BTC prices b/c of supply and demand in the event that BTC were to be increasingly implemented or used b/c of these kinds of world events.

Yes, I just became aware of that.  I haven't been lurking these forums as frequently as I used to, so I might be out of touch a bit   .