Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 29811.

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Quote from: aminorex on February 11, 2014, 04:13:49 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

They'll destroy themselves trying anyway, obvious superiority is obvious so it doesn't really matter what the price does in the short term, all bitcoin has to do is stick around while everything else breaks around it. This has got political, welcome to the Afghanistan of currencies.

No, they are doing this to gain more BTC. They will control the future. Your children will be their slaves.

that made me lol

TERA

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Quote from: solex on February 11, 2014, 04:12:56 PM

Quote from: TERA on February 11, 2014, 04:05:47 PM

The way bitcoin trades has completely changed. There is this consistent amount of high volume buy orders and sell orders on the books on bitstamp and btce and all this buying for this huge amount of coins but the price doesn't go anywhere. If there was this much buying in November then the price would have gone to over 9000. When I watch BitcoinWisdom, I feel like I'm watching Litecoin.

Perhaps it is the side-effect of this from mid January (and they are now using stamp/btce not gox).

According to Navidan, almost 5% of eToro’s active user base (about 200,000 users) have open bitcoin positions at the moment. Users from South America, the UK and Germany are currently the top bitcoin traders.

http://www.coindesk.com/etoro-launches-bitcoin-trading-3-million-users/

Are you saying that the eToro platform integrates bitstamp and btce?

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Quote from: ?? on ??

They'll destroy themselves trying anyway, obvious superiority is obvious so it doesn't really matter what the price does in the short term, all bitcoin has to do is stick around while everything else breaks around it. This has got political, welcome to the Afghanistan of currencies.

No, they are doing this to gain more BTC. They will control the future. Your children will be their slaves.

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Quote from: TERA on February 11, 2014, 04:05:47 PM

The way bitcoin trades has completely changed. There is this consistent amount of high volume buy orders and sell orders on the books on bitstamp and btce and all this buying for this huge amount of coins but the price doesn't go anywhere. If there was this much buying in November then the price would have gone to over 9000. When I watch BitcoinWisdom, I feel like I'm watching Litecoin.

Perhaps it is the side-effect of this from mid January (and they are now using stamp/btce not gox).

According to Navidan, almost 5% of eToro’s active user base (about 200,000 users) have open bitcoin positions at the moment. Users from South America, the UK and Germany are currently the top bitcoin traders.

http://www.coindesk.com/etoro-launches-bitcoin-trading-3-million-users/

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Quote from: aminorex on February 11, 2014, 03:36:49 PM

It is interesting to consider what measures could remove the ability to conduct a systematic attack on the value of bitcoin. The elimination of centralized exchanges seems the most obvious. That, however, will take time.

Another would be to identify the persons who conducted the DDOS, and who coordinated the attack on the exchanges. If an exchange operator were interested in preserving the value of bitcoin, they would open their records to public inspection. Transparency is, after all, part of the essence of bitcoin. This would make it possible to identify the actors.

A defector who considers the purposes of bitcoin and the hope it offers mankind to be more important than personal greed might disclose the communication channels used to coordinate operations.

How exactly does one get fiat from a decentralized exchange to dollars? Is this where master coin or ripple come in? We use them as placeholders for dollars, Euros, etc.? That would mean that there would need to be a place that accepted them in place of dollars and transfer to your account. And would this be antithetical to decentralization as it would require a third party to convert the crypto dollars to real dollars?

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Quote from: hd060053 on February 11, 2014, 04:03:03 PM

bitfinex new largest exchange?

It varies day to day.

Yesterday: Huobi ~134 kBTC, Bitstamp ~72, OKCoin ~71, MtGOX ~50, BTC-e ~47, Bitfinex ~42, BTC-China ~18.

Bitfinex was the largest outside China on Friday Feb/07 (~67 kBTC).

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Quote from: KFR on February 11, 2014, 04:08:55 PM

The individuals are not the real problem; the ability for the individuals to have an effect is the problem. A decentralised exchange is the way forward. Wink

That is coming Nxt

Wink

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The individuals are not the real problem; the ability for the individuals to have an effect is the problem. A decentralised exchange is the way forward. Wink

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Getting the transaction records and network logs from bitfinex would probably suffice to identify the conspirators. Thorough examination of the data available on the malleability attack would be good.

Identifying these people would solve the problem. They are cowards, of course, with no principles but greed.

Attempting to squeeze them prematurely will be futile, and merely funnel funds into their hands, unless you can marshall enough btc to surely squeeze all other players.

This is warfare for the future of mankind, I should point out. A community that will not defend itself will inevitably be destroyed.

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Quote from: delphic on February 11, 2014, 03:57:40 PM

The USA is not the center of the world, sorry to tell you.

世界中国的中心 !

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Quote from: Ivanhoe on February 11, 2014, 03:41:05 PM

The bitcoin protocol is working fine gentleman. Just some bug in wallet software which causes this: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_Malleability. There is already a technical implementation for this and it is implemented now. That's why BTC-E and Bitstamp are updating their wallets.

edit: Gox did fuck up more than other exchanges because their coding was old, therefore the chances of transaction malleability happening at gox was higher.

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 11, 2014, 02:14:57 PM

there so much FUD right now, and alot of poeple come here to understand what is happening, so i feel compelled to point this out:

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 11, 2014, 01:34:11 PM

Quote from: adamstgBit on February 11, 2014, 01:17:03 PM

ok i sent 0.001BTC to the first 3 address posted.

lets see what happens.

https://blockchain.info/address/1ArSzUXWwtroKzVgEXQHrPSvhDALhF5e54
https://blockchain.info/address/1F93htFyaPmh5E5s2eHd6ptTyEEUsU1Fu7
https://blockchain.info/address/1CzYe2syUMwHwQhaCpcu8yc1psQDvb7cMr

yup everything is working fine.

back to the moon.

Quote from: meanig on February 11, 2014, 01:50:18 PM

Quote from: Drabla on February 11, 2014, 01:45:55 PM

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/112720504

Amazing, a double spend was detected and stopped. I jizzed my pants Shocked

as you can clearly see the bitcoin network is working just fine, despite what some would have you believe

the problem lies in the custom built wallet software exchanges implemented.

attacker(s) are, unsuccessfully, trying to fool these exchange into thinking tx are not occurring when they really are

bitcoin dev are working to resolve this problem by working with exchanges, miners, and also thinking about possible protocol updates to completely remove all possibility of future attacks.

now look back and see who has been spreading FUD, and click ignore.

This is Silkroad crash 2.0, i'm buying anyway.

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The way bitcoin trades has completely changed. There is this consistent amount of high volume buy orders and sell orders on the books on bitstamp and btce and all this buying for this huge amount of coins but the price doesn't go anywhere. If there was this much buying in November then the price would have gone to over 9000. When I watch BitcoinWisdom, I feel like I'm watching Litecoin.

seleme

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Duelbits.com

Big dumping retard whale, don't let me of, this time I'm ready Grin

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bitfinex new largest exchange?

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http://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/bitfinex/btcusd

Live photoshopping provided by bitcoinwisdom, confirmed.

@windjc

Don´t you feel stupid,again?

fonzie

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I´m about to dump 10kBTC market order. Get ready Cheesy

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Quote from: adamstgBit on February 11, 2014, 03:51:13 PM

poeple are going to get home from work soon...

prepare for glory!

The USA is not the center of the world, sorry to tell you.

fonzie

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Wow.

So many tinfoil hats.

I´m part of the ddos dumping operation, i photoshopped my screenshot? lol
Fear seems to take hold of the bulls.

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Quote from: aminorex on February 11, 2014, 03:52:39 PM

Reliance on BFX suggests that the dumping is levered, and very vulnerable to a squeeze.

He is now resorted to flight out lying and photoshop. Bears are in pure manipulation mode.

This is what fear looks like - this forum right now. Its all so interesting to watch.

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Quote from: podyx on February 11, 2014, 03:46:22 PM

hmm short??

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