They still seem pretty coupled to me.
gox is about 30-50 USD lower than btc-e/stamp. If the usual difference (gox 15% higher) had been maintained, stamp would be trading at $555 now. That's what I (we?) mean by "decoupled".
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February 09, 2014, 03:41:37 AM
gox is about 30-50 USD lower than btc-e/stamp. If the usual difference (gox 15% higher) had been maintained, stamp would be trading at $555 now. That's what I (we?) mean by "decoupled".
February 09, 2014, 03:40:28 AM
Anyone know what's the deal is with Coinbase? Their price is running about $25 over bitstamp right now, which is by far the furthest I've seen them spread. Usually they're pegged right within a dollar or two of stamp as that's where they do all their orders from (at least, that was the common assumption). Very odd that they've been sitting between 695-700 while stamp hovers around 670-675.
Anyone know what's going on there?
Anyone know what's going on there?
Obviously its Americans who are buying the fuck out of bitcoin. Kinda pisses me off that this spread reaches it's peak when I want to be buying and when I pulled the last of my coins out of Gox, the spread was the other way so I lose the spread every fucking time. But make no mistake, it's supply and demand and the yanks are coming.
Coinbase account holders have access to our bank accounts and can buy all we want and we're obviously buying the hell out of this drop. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world. Getting to be a habit. You ungrateful bastards can still suck it when the dollar fails and we still get to keep world reserve currency status!
In Europe, we have an exchange, we have ATMs and there are several European countries with greater adoption per capita. Check sourceforge.
Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world.
Once again???
From Nazis, Commies, etc. Those crosses on the cliffs over Normandy aren't just landscaping.
Haha. You mean Wallstreet bailed out? Those who create the monsters are those who save the world from it?
Sutton's next three major published books — Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler and Wall Street and FDR — detailed Wall Street's involvement in the Bolshevik Revolution (in order to destroy Russia as an economic competitor and turn it into "a captive market and a technical colony to be exploited by a few high-powered American financiers and the corporations under their control"[3]) as well as its decisive contributions to the rise of Adolf Hitler and Franklin Delano Roosevelt, whose policies he assessed as being essentially the same, namely "corporate socialism" planned by the big corporations.[4] Sutton concluded that this was all part of the economic power elites' "long-range program of nurturing collectivism"[1] and fostering "corporate socialism" in order to ensure "monopoly acquisition of wealth", because it "would fade away if it were exposed to the activity of a free market".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antony_C._Sutton
February 09, 2014, 03:37:26 AM
Finally the solvent exchanges are successfully decoupling from Gox. Is it possible to have goxBTC at $300 and realBTC > $600 ??
Funnily enough something like that could end up saving Mt.Gox. If you're getting a 50% spread quite a few people who can handle the risk would be wiring large sums of money into Gox' coffers. Restoring the imbalance created by months of Gox leading the prices by 100$ or more. It would be a neat example of a self-correcting problem.
I've actually been thinking about recklessly wiring some money to gox, so I think this scenario is possible (never underestimate greed). I decided against it after about 7 seconds,... mainly for tax reasons and because I don't want to have to deal with the risk. Also because I'm pissed at gox and because I don't want to hear: "goxxed once? shame on gox. goxxed twice? shame on you".
February 09, 2014, 03:36:26 AM
They still seem pretty coupled to me.
February 09, 2014, 03:35:56 AM
Obviously its Americans who are buying the fuck out of bitcoin. Kinda pisses me off that this spread reaches it's peak when I want to be buying and when I pulled the last of my coins out of Gox, the spread was the other way so I lose the spread every fucking time. But make no mistake, it's supply and demand and the yanks are coming.
Coinbase account holders have access to our bank accounts and can buy all we want and we're obviously buying the hell out of this drop. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world. Getting to be a habit. You ungrateful bastards can still suck it when the dollar fails and we still get to keep world reserve currency status!
Coinbase account holders have access to our bank accounts and can buy all we want and we're obviously buying the hell out of this drop. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world. Getting to be a habit. You ungrateful bastards can still suck it when the dollar fails and we still get to keep world reserve currency status!
In Europe, we have an exchange, we have ATMs and there are several European countries with greater adoption per capita. Check sourceforge.
Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world.
Once again???
From Nazis, Commies, etc. Those crosses on the cliffs over Normandy aren't just landscaping.
The main thing to remember is that he is a hero, and the rest of us are shit.
If we thought you were shit, my kinfolk wouldn't have bled and died to save your dumb asses. You are family to us. If you need us again, we'll be there again, but we'd rather not if we don't have to. No, I ain't a hero. The best of us gave everything and all I'm risking is my bank account. I did what I could at the end of the cold war, but the truth is that Statism is self-defeating and mostly what we did was wait for the Soviet empire to collapse under it's own weight. Now Statism is again threatening to end civilization and it's up to us to keep that from happening. Fortunately, time is again on our side because the laws of economics cannot be repealed by legislative fiat.
Americans ain't perfect, but we damn sure aren't gonna wait around for China to pull its head out of its ass before we do something.
February 09, 2014, 03:34:34 AM
Finally the solvent exchanges are successfully decoupling from Gox. Is it possible to have goxBTC at $300 and realBTC > $600 ??
Yeah, it's good to see the decoupling.
On the other hand, should gox reinstate BTC-withdrawals (assuming it's really technical problems and they will be solved), would the other markets follow the rally that would likely happen?
I hope so.
February 09, 2014, 03:20:26 AM
Obviously its Americans who are buying the fuck out of bitcoin. Kinda pisses me off that this spread reaches it's peak when I want to be buying and when I pulled the last of my coins out of Gox, the spread was the other way so I lose the spread every fucking time. But make no mistake, it's supply and demand and the yanks are coming.
Coinbase account holders have access to our bank accounts and can buy all we want and we're obviously buying the hell out of this drop. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world. Getting to be a habit. You ungrateful bastards can still suck it when the dollar fails and we still get to keep world reserve currency status!
Coinbase account holders have access to our bank accounts and can buy all we want and we're obviously buying the hell out of this drop. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world. Getting to be a habit. You ungrateful bastards can still suck it when the dollar fails and we still get to keep world reserve currency status!
In Europe, we have an exchange, we have ATMs and there are several European countries with greater adoption per capita. Check sourceforge.
Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world.
Once again???
From Nazis, Commies, etc. Those crosses on the cliffs over Normandy aren't just landscaping.
The main thing to remember is that he is a hero, and the rest of us are shit.
not saying this applies to every american but usually those stereotypes build on something. 
February 09, 2014, 03:15:00 AM
Obviously its Americans who are buying the fuck out of bitcoin. Kinda pisses me off that this spread reaches it's peak when I want to be buying and when I pulled the last of my coins out of Gox, the spread was the other way so I lose the spread every fucking time. But make no mistake, it's supply and demand and the yanks are coming.
Coinbase account holders have access to our bank accounts and can buy all we want and we're obviously buying the hell out of this drop. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world. Getting to be a habit. You ungrateful bastards can still suck it when the dollar fails and we still get to keep world reserve currency status!
Coinbase account holders have access to our bank accounts and can buy all we want and we're obviously buying the hell out of this drop. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world. Getting to be a habit. You ungrateful bastards can still suck it when the dollar fails and we still get to keep world reserve currency status!
In Europe, we have an exchange, we have ATMs and there are several European countries with greater adoption per capita. Check sourceforge.
Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world.
Once again???
From Nazis, Commies, etc. Those crosses on the cliffs over Normandy aren't just landscaping.
The main thing to remember is that he is a hero, and the rest of us are shit.
February 09, 2014, 03:13:45 AM
Will btcchina come back? Thought bank transfers would be in 7 february again but seems volume is still miniscule. Did the Chinese give up btc and only the bots and fake volume on huobi left? Feels like the only real exchange to follow right now is bitstamp
February 09, 2014, 03:07:36 AM
Anyone know what's the deal is with Coinbase? Their price is running about $25 over bitstamp right now, which is by far the furthest I've seen them spread. Usually they're pegged right within a dollar or two of stamp as that's where they do all their orders from (at least, that was the common assumption). Very odd that they've been sitting between 695-700 while stamp hovers around 670-675.
Anyone know what's going on there?
Anyone know what's going on there?
Obviously its Americans who are buying the fuck out of bitcoin. Kinda pisses me off that this spread reaches it's peak when I want to be buying and when I pulled the last of my coins out of Gox, the spread was the other way so I lose the spread every fucking time. But make no mistake, it's supply and demand and the yanks are coming.
Coinbase account holders have access to our bank accounts and can buy all we want and we're obviously buying the hell out of this drop. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world. Getting to be a habit. You ungrateful bastards can still suck it when the dollar fails and we still get to keep world reserve currency status!
In Europe, we have an exchange, we have ATMs and there are several European countries with greater adoption per capita. Check sourceforge.
Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world.
Once again???
From Nazis, Commies, etc. Those crosses on the cliffs over Normandy aren't just landscaping.
February 09, 2014, 03:02:43 AM
Lets read some good news while the Goxtanic sinks: http://www.newsweek.com/newsweek-becomes-first-magazine-accept-bitcoin-pitches-228533
February 09, 2014, 03:02:23 AM
February 09, 2014, 02:45:50 AM
Anyone know what's the deal is with Coinbase? Their price is running about $25 over bitstamp right now, which is by far the furthest I've seen them spread. Usually they're pegged right within a dollar or two of stamp as that's where they do all their orders from (at least, that was the common assumption). Very odd that they've been sitting between 695-700 while stamp hovers around 670-675.
Anyone know what's going on there?
Anyone know what's going on there?
Obviously its Americans who are buying the fuck out of bitcoin. Kinda pisses me off that this spread reaches it's peak when I want to be buying and when I pulled the last of my coins out of Gox, the spread was the other way so I lose the spread every fucking time. But make no mistake, it's supply and demand and the yanks are coming.
Coinbase account holders have access to our bank accounts and can buy all we want and we're obviously buying the hell out of this drop. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world. Getting to be a habit. You ungrateful bastards can still suck it when the dollar fails and we still get to keep world reserve currency status!
In Europe, we have an exchange, we have ATMs and there are several European countries with greater adoption per capita. Check sourceforge.
Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world.
Once again???
From Nazis, Commies, etc. Those crosses on the cliffs over Normandy aren't just landscaping.
February 09, 2014, 02:42:45 AM
What is coinbase is the whale manipulating prices on chinese exchanges?
Screw China. Wouldn't be the first time we saved their asses from Japan.
I think this time China will counterbalance new Gox FUD since their banks open on monday.
+1
February 09, 2014, 02:38:03 AM
Anyone know what's the deal is with Coinbase? Their price is running about $25 over bitstamp right now, which is by far the furthest I've seen them spread. Usually they're pegged right within a dollar or two of stamp as that's where they do all their orders from (at least, that was the common assumption). Very odd that they've been sitting between 695-700 while stamp hovers around 670-675.
Anyone know what's going on there?
Anyone know what's going on there?
Obviously its Americans who are buying the fuck out of bitcoin. Kinda pisses me off that this spread reaches it's peak when I want to be buying and when I pulled the last of my coins out of Gox, the spread was the other way so I lose the spread every fucking time. But make no mistake, it's supply and demand and the yanks are coming.
Coinbase account holders have access to our bank accounts and can buy all we want and we're obviously buying the hell out of this drop. Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world. Getting to be a habit. You ungrateful bastards can still suck it when the dollar fails and we still get to keep world reserve currency status!
In Europe, we have an exchange, we have ATMs and there are several European countries with greater adoption per capita. Check sourceforge.
Once again, we have to bail out Europe and the rest of the world.
Once again???
February 09, 2014, 02:13:18 AM
Finally the solvent exchanges are successfully decoupling from Gox. Is it possible to have goxBTC at $300 and realBTC > $600 ??
Funnily enough something like that could end up saving Mt.Gox. If you're getting a 50% spread quite a few people who can handle the risk would be wiring large sums of money into Gox' coffers. Restoring the imbalance created by months of Gox leading the prices by 100$ or more. It would be a neat example of a self-correcting problem.
February 09, 2014, 02:00:03 AM
What is coinbase is the whale manipulating prices on chinese exchanges?
Screw China. Wouldn't be the first time we saved their asses from Japan.
I think this time China will counterbalance new Gox FUD since their banks open on monday.
February 09, 2014, 01:58:38 AM
What is coinbase is the whale manipulating prices on chinese exchanges?
Screw China. Wouldn't be the first time we saved their asses from Japan.
February 09, 2014, 01:48:47 AM
Finally the solvent exchanges are successfully decoupling from Gox. Is it possible to have goxBTC at $300 and realBTC > $600 ??
February 09, 2014, 01:44:20 AM
What is coinbase is the whale manipulating prices on chinese exchanges?
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