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Meanwhile I feel I want to divulge some trading from Gox. This account was freshly activated in 13.12. and not used for arbitrage, so it reveals some of my actual trading skill:

SELL-1 13.-16.12.                  -379,997      342 097,075   900,26   
BUY-1 17.-18.12.                  554,946      -323 856,498   583,58   -0,351765657
SELL-2 19.-26.12.                  -972,091      713 878,256   734,37   0,258391254

These are the totals/averages. Given the conditions in the buyback phase BUY-1, I think 584 was a reasonable price, resulting in 50% increase of coins. I bought all the way down and my lowest bids were not hit (hence only 324k invested of the 342k sold). The SELL-2 is now a little underwater but I am prepared to sell more, in fact I did sell 200 at an average 815 a couple days ago.

How are the others doing (in the light of figures, not feelings Wink )?

Unchanged Smiley

It was 9.12.2013 that I made a new trading plan based on a "secular" bear market (in Bitcoin context something that lasts at least a month). Before that I had kept the position quite constant for a few days, doing some profitable arbitrage between China/BS.

First I drew a downtrend from the high of 30.11. and aimed to sell when we were above the trend. This resulted in a whole week of selling until 15.12. Then as it started to look that it could tip over any moment, I tried to bet with Goat and issued the now-famous prediction that it would crash to 450. It did crash, but my mistake was to underestimate the magnitude of the crash. I bought a large portion back at 670 (BS) when it was stabilizing. Then next day it crashed some more, resulting in a practical jackpot (as you can see above).

Then I was a little bit too eager to sell, correctly calling the local tops in 625 and 666 but failing to sell in the dips (because of the experiences of the previous one). Now it has crept higher, and I have sold more, bringing the average sell price rather close to what the price is now. This trade is for the long haul, because there are a myriad of events that can bring the exchange rate to 300-400 and 400-500 would happen even without anything special. What I cannot know is the exact timing. Now I feel a similarity to 15.12. in many indicators, and will be the first to sell more when the ball starts rolling.
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Never seen it mentioned here, so just throwing this out, but what happens when the *kids* discover crypto? That's my take on doge - it might not be the one that does it, but if there aren't thousands of proto geeks mining doge at the moment I'd be amazed. All the things we love about bitcoin apply in the playground - it's going to be the next wave of adoption.

+1, they'd be more in touch with social trends too, the next meme, vid, etc. could turn into the next hot altcoin overnight. Its worth spending a bit of time on MMO's etc just to see the trading too, there's plenty of 12 year olds out there that would put the most wizened used car dealers to shame Wink

Totally - trading - establishing your own value systems that are not under authority control is everything when you're 12. Don't know/care if it will help bitcoin in the short term, but the kids will build a foundation under our dreams, because they're not stupid.
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As if what Risto posted isn't equally credible as a screenshot. Both require a comparable amount of work to be faked properly.

Anyway, does it really matter? I'd prefer people listen to the argument rather than the arguer.
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I think you didn't understand what I asked for, I can post a made up data as well, I can tell from a screen shot whether you really do and believe what you post here (short term) around, or you are just a troll and try to move sentiment to your desired position.... because you act as a consultant and a trading adviser...

As you should understand by now, by checking how long it takes for me to enter and exit a trade (from the valuable info I posted which - properly analyzed - would greatly boost your skills also), I cannot offer such a service which wakes up all small traders at the instant I make a move  Undecided

Besides I don't understand this consultant thing, I haven't sold such services for years really, nor intend to. All the contribution here is free and buyer beware, as with everybody else's. I honestly believe that people should pay more attention to the opinions of successful people, and have taken some provocations as opportunities to show proof of the success. This is a second time (only) that I have posted a complete record of trades in the ballpark of BTC1k, and will remain so. Keep your apology if you want, and believe it will earn you better karma. I will not put you on ignore, because I like your posts, but I will kindly ask you to ignore me as you seemingly cannot take my facts as they are and develop a conversation based on them.

If anyone wonders why my post quality is so low in this thread, it is not because of my lack of willingness to contribute, it is because mainly the fools reply to my posts and the smart people do not pick the ball.
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Never seen it mentioned here, so just throwing this out, but what happens when the *kids* discover crypto? That's my take on doge - it might not be the one that does it, but if there aren't thousands of proto geeks mining doge at the moment I'd be amazed. All the things we love about bitcoin apply in the playground - it's going to be the next wave of adoption.

how much is the network hashrate of doge now anyways ?  

26.6 GH/s https://vircurex.com/

wow look at this

Litecoin : ~92 GH





Fathercoin ~ 6 GH




Dogecoin ~ 27 GH




the world is going crazy over this...
legendary
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Never seen it mentioned here, so just throwing this out, but what happens when the *kids* discover crypto? That's my take on doge - it might not be the one that does it, but if there aren't thousands of proto geeks mining doge at the moment I'd be amazed. All the things we love about bitcoin apply in the playground - it's going to be the next wave of adoption.

how much is the network hashrate of doge now anyways ? 

26.6 GH/s https://vircurex.com/
legendary
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things you own end up owning you
Never seen it mentioned here, so just throwing this out, but what happens when the *kids* discover crypto? That's my take on doge - it might not be the one that does it, but if there aren't thousands of proto geeks mining doge at the moment I'd be amazed. All the things we love about bitcoin apply in the playground - it's going to be the next wave of adoption.

how much is the network hashrate of doge now anyways ? 
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Never seen it mentioned here, so just throwing this out, but what happens when the *kids* discover crypto? That's my take on doge - it might not be the one that does it, but if there aren't thousands of proto geeks mining doge at the moment I'd be amazed. All the things we love about bitcoin apply in the playground - it's going to be the next wave of adoption.
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I think you didn't understand what I asked for, I can post a made up data as well, I can tell from a screen shot whether you really do and believe what you post here (short term) around, or you are just a troll and try to move sentiment to your desired position.... because you act as a consultant and a trading adviser...

I will still ow you an apology if you prove me wrong, I have no problem admitting my weakness/mistakes if they are pointed out with a prove.


and BTW what is that proxy image thing !!?

Edit: my uploads has been deleted, I cant find them on imgur !!!
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I have been watching closely for three weeks now - but still the paint ain´t dry !

(just my eyes and mouth...)
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still don't see the trade history that reflects your post, having money sitting is something and showing that you are a "Pro trader" is another thing Wink ,

In my dictionary "pro"="professional"= somebody who does it for the living, so not necessary good, but in the case of trader, he has to make some additional value compared to b&h. I aim to gain several thousand bitcoins in the period between my initial bearish call in 19.11.2013 and the final capitulation sometime next year by trading full time.

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If you will convince me that you believe (and do) as you post, I will post an apology about the past few days

ok.. here are all the trades in that Mt.Gox account that sum up to the figures presented in the above post:

DATE    BTC   USD/BTC   USD
         
13.12.2013 23:16   -8,322   919,89   7 655,75
13.12.2013 23:22   -22,232   919,89   20 451,16
13.12.2013 23:22   -19,445   919,89   17 887,59
13.12.2013 23:56   -10,132   949,00   9 615,37
13.12.2013 23:56   -10,402   949,00   9 871,04
13.12.2013 23:57   -15,445   949,00   14 657,62
13.12.2013 23:59   -12,231   949,00   11 607,08
13.12.2013 23:59   -0,010   949,00   9,59
15.12.2013 16:07   -50,000   899,80   44 990,00
15.12.2013 18:49   -0,881   895,00   788,91
15.12.2013 18:50   -10,000   895,00   8 950,00
15.12.2013 18:51   -0,402   895,00   359,95
15.12.2013 18:52   -0,010   895,00   8,95
15.12.2013 18:52   -0,049   895,00   43,42
15.12.2013 18:56   -6,133   895,00   5 489,33
15.12.2013 19:02   -7,525   895,00   6 734,43
15.12.2013 19:07   -2,036   897,50   1 827,57
15.12.2013 19:08   -0,300   897,50   268,91
15.12.2013 19:16   -22,664   897,50   20 341,01
15.12.2013 23:19   -50,000   924,00   46 200,00
16.12.2013 10:42   -0,957   852,00   814,99
16.12.2013 10:42   -0,200   852,00   170,40
16.12.2013 10:42   -1,155   851,22   983,24
16.12.2013 10:42   -2,000   851,22   1 702,44
16.12.2013 10:42   -0,034   851,14   28,84
16.12.2013 10:42   -0,097   851,11   82,65
16.12.2013 10:42   -0,500   851,10   425,55
16.12.2013 10:42   -0,010   851,07   8,51
16.12.2013 10:42   -0,200   851,05   170,21
16.12.2013 10:42   -0,075   851,03   63,44
16.12.2013 10:42   -0,881   851,02   750,00
16.12.2013 10:42   -2,100   851,01   1 787,12
16.12.2013 10:42   -0,235   851,00   200,00
16.12.2013 10:42   -3,500   851,00   2 978,50
16.12.2013 10:42   -0,097   851,00   82,50
16.12.2013 10:42   -0,200   851,00   170,20
16.12.2013 10:42   -0,890   851,00   757,39
16.12.2013 10:42   -6,870   851,00   5 845,98
16.12.2013 10:45   -4,719   860,00   4 058,64
16.12.2013 10:54   -1,686   860,00   1 449,62
16.12.2013 10:54   -0,044   860,00   37,72
16.12.2013 10:54   -0,600   860,00   516,00
16.12.2013 10:54   -4,173   860,00   3 588,83
16.12.2013 10:55   -2,946   860,00   2 533,15
16.12.2013 10:55   -4,180   860,00   3 594,80
16.12.2013 10:55   -3,944   860,00   3 392,22
16.12.2013 11:23   -4,747   883,00   4 192,00
16.12.2013 11:23   -0,010   883,00   8,83
16.12.2013 11:23   -4,683   883,00   4 134,97
16.12.2013 11:23   -0,010   883,00   8,83
16.12.2013 11:24   -2,879   883,00   2 541,78
16.12.2013 11:24   -0,974   883,00   860,27
16.12.2013 11:27   -6,697   883,00   5 913,33
16.12.2013 16:05   -6,630   842,00   5 582,43
16.12.2013 16:09   -0,020   837,00   16,74
16.12.2013 16:11   -8,149   837,00   6 820,83
16.12.2013 16:11   -0,190   837,00   159,03
16.12.2013 16:12   -1,000   837,00   837,00
16.12.2013 16:13   -0,200   837,00   167,40
16.12.2013 16:13   -0,054   837,00   44,90
16.12.2013 16:15   -0,012   836,00   10,29
16.12.2013 16:15   -0,108   836,00   90,25
16.12.2013 16:16   -19,880   836,00   16 619,46
16.12.2013 16:16   -13,370   842,00   11 257,57
16.12.2013 16:22   -0,072   841,97   60,74
16.12.2013 16:25   -1,814   839,80   1 523,60
16.12.2013 16:27   -8,115   839,80   6 815,38
16.12.2013 16:28   -0,070   839,80   59,02
16.12.2013 16:34   -10,000   839,88   8 398,80
16.12.2013 16:40   -0,010   836,00   8,36
16.12.2013 16:40   -6,996   836,00   5 848,53
16.12.2013 16:50   -9,800   835,00   8 183,00
16.12.2013 16:50   -2,994   836,00   2 503,11
16.12.2013 19:45   0,252   726,00   -182,75
16.12.2013 19:45   0,030   726,00   -21,78
16.12.2013 19:45   6,136   726,00   -4 454,44
16.12.2013 19:45   13,583   726,00   -9 861,03
17.12.2013 13:06   25,000   712,00   -17 800,00
18.12.2013 4:50   30,000   675,00   -20 250,00
18.12.2013 5:39   50,000   651,00   -32 550,00
18.12.2013 6:01   50,000   625,50   -31 275,00
18.12.2013 6:19   50,000   606,00   -30 300,00
18.12.2013 6:19   50,000   601,00   -30 050,00
18.12.2013 7:20   23,306   570,00   -13 284,53
18.12.2013 7:20   20,000   570,00   -11 400,00
18.12.2013 7:20   0,020   570,00   -11,40
18.12.2013 7:20   2,038   570,00   -1 161,49
18.12.2013 7:21   0,100   570,00   -57,00
18.12.2013 7:21   4,536   570,00   -2 585,58
18.12.2013 8:09   22,137   552,00   -12 219,73
18.12.2013 8:09   0,084   552,00   -46,19
18.12.2013 8:09   25,097   552,00   -13 853,77
18.12.2013 8:09   1,000   552,00   -552,00
18.12.2013 8:09   0,363   552,00   -200,55
18.12.2013 8:09   0,238   552,00   -131,12
18.12.2013 8:10   1,081   552,00   -596,65
18.12.2013 8:17   19,674   555,01   -10 919,40
18.12.2013 8:18   8,881   558,01   -4 955,61
18.12.2013 8:18   21,119   558,01   -11 784,69
18.12.2013 8:18   10,326   555,01   -5 730,90
18.12.2013 8:20   30,000   555,01   -16 650,30
18.12.2013 8:20   30,000   550,97   -16 529,10
18.12.2013 8:31   11,000   528,10   -5 809,10
18.12.2013 8:31   2,000   528,10   -1 056,20
18.12.2013 8:32   7,000   528,10   -3 696,70
18.12.2013 10:19   20,000   494,00   -9 880,00
18.12.2013 10:58   0,526   471,11   -247,89
18.12.2013 10:58   19,474   471,11   -9 174,31
18.12.2013 11:01   20,000   457,11   -9 142,20
19.12.2013 10:56   -13,370   666,00   8 904,42
19.12.2013 10:56   -36,045   670,00   24 150,27
19.12.2013 10:56   -2,000   670,00   1 340,00
19.12.2013 10:56   -1,049   670,00   702,91
19.12.2013 10:56   -0,056   670,00   37,52
19.12.2013 10:56   -0,025   670,00   16,73
19.12.2013 10:57   -9,645   670,00   6 462,05
19.12.2013 10:57   -0,010   670,00   6,70
19.12.2013 10:57   -8,108   670,00   5 432,39
19.12.2013 10:57   -1,000   670,00   670,00
19.12.2013 10:57   -5,000   670,00   3 350,00
19.12.2013 10:57   -1,000   670,00   670,00
19.12.2013 10:58   -1,000   670,00   670,00
19.12.2013 10:58   -8,090   670,00   5 420,17
19.12.2013 10:58   -2,000   670,00   1 340,00
19.12.2013 10:59   -1,972   670,00   1 321,27
19.12.2013 11:11   -69,651   680,00   47 362,56
19.12.2013 11:11   -5,198   680,00   3 534,59
19.12.2013 11:12   -0,118   680,00   80,10
19.12.2013 11:12   -2,033   680,00   1 382,74
19.12.2013 11:40   -7,028   690,00   4 849,52
19.12.2013 11:40   -12,400   690,00   8 556,00
19.12.2013 11:47   -57,572   690,00   39 724,48
19.12.2013 11:52   -77,000   700,00   53 900,00
19.12.2013 11:54   -6,561   710,00   4 658,52
19.12.2013 11:54   -0,150   710,00   106,50
19.12.2013 11:54   -12,888   710,00   9 150,70
19.12.2013 11:54   -20,000   710,00   14 200,00
19.12.2013 11:54   -21,711   710,00   15 414,97
19.12.2013 11:54   -0,200   710,00   142,00
19.12.2013 11:54   -4,582   710,00   3 253,53
19.12.2013 11:54   -1,000   710,00   710,00
19.12.2013 11:55   -9,907   710,00   7 033,78
19.12.2013 23:08   -22,315   720,00   16 066,90
19.12.2013 23:08   -54,685   720,00   39 373,10
19.12.2013 23:12   -77,000   730,00   56 210,00
19.12.2013 23:18   -77,000   740,00   56 980,00
20.12.2013 4:42   -77,000   750,00   57 750,00
20.12.2013 5:31   -7,293   760,00   5 542,34
20.12.2013 5:31   -0,062   760,00   47,02
20.12.2013 5:31   -58,366   760,00   44 358,48
26.12.2013 17:38   -100,000   809,98   80 998,00
26.12.2013 19:12   -2,853   819,98   2 339,64
26.12.2013 19:12   -1,788   819,98   1 466,25
26.12.2013 19:12   -95,359   819,98   78 192,11


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(still doesnt mean I will agree with every post of yours)

Well, that I do not require even from my employees...


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and BTW, I dont daily trade because I am horrible trader, I managed to do few of good trades (being lucky) and so many bad trades....

Being full time does not mean to trade daily. I can quite well feed my family with a couple of trades per year, provided that they are (mostly) right. That is why I am so fascinated about the trendline, it is like an invisible hand that turns the probabilities in your favor by presenting a low risk exit point. Then just adjust the buyback to fit your risk/reward preference. I never sell a majority of the coins so I can in the extreme case wait forever the buyback. Of course I would rather that it come before March as I calculated, estimated, predicted and hope.
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Nice, congrats! Smiley

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So what I say is a Screen shot or GTFO...



ok..



still don't see the trade history that reflects your post, having money sitting is something and showing that you are a "Pro trader" is another thing Wink , If you will convince me that you believe (and do) as you post, I will post an apology about the past few days (still doesnt mean I will agree with every post of yours)

and BTW, I dont daily trade because I am horrible trader, I managed to do few of good trades (being lucky) and so many bad trades....


Hint: Reptila is a professional trader.
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Nice, congrats! Smiley

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So what I say is a Screen shot or GTFO...



ok..



I like Risto's better. All Bitcoin! Smiley
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Nice, congrats! Smiley

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So what I say is a Screen shot or GTFO...



ok..



still don't see the trade history that reflects your post, having money sitting is something and showing that you are a "Pro trader" is another thing Wink , If you will convince me that you believe (and do) as you post, I will post an apology about the past few days (still doesnt mean I will agree with every post of yours)

and BTW, I dont daily trade because I am horrible trader, I managed to do few of good trades (being lucky) and so many bad trades....
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Meanwhile I feel I want to divulge some trading from Gox. This account was freshly activated in 13.12. and not used for arbitrage, so it reveals some of my actual trading skill:

SELL-1 13.-16.12.                  -379,997      342 097,075   900,26   
BUY-1 17.-18.12.                  554,946      -323 856,498   583,58   -0,351765657
SELL-2 19.-26.12.                  -972,091      713 878,256   734,37   0,258391254

These are the totals/averages. Given the conditions in the buyback phase BUY-1, I think 584 was a reasonable price, resulting in 50% increase of coins. I bought all the way down and my lowest bids were not hit (hence only 324k invested of the 342k sold). The SELL-2 is now a little underwater but I am prepared to sell more, in fact I did sell 200 at an average 815 a couple days ago.

How are the others doing (in the light of figures, not feelings Wink )?

enjoy your gains but still you can lose all of that when new whale will come in to the town.
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... that $1300 figure from BoA is more likely a carefully placed psychological wall than the result of intense number crunching.

More likely facile bullshit!
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Nice, congrats! Smiley

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So what I say is a Screen shot or GTFO...



ok..

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