To the moon, again 
all the TA believers will be caught with their pants down. Or rather fiat in hand
Maybe it's just me hoping... I'm 100% bull for a few months now.
Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 30730. (Read 26711580 times)
December 24, 2013, 10:17:25 AM
all the TA believers will be caught with their pants down. Or rather fiat in hand
Maybe it's just me hoping... I'm 100% bull for a few months now.
December 24, 2013, 10:12:42 AM
To the moon, again
all the TA believers will be caught with their pants down. Or rather fiat in hand
December 24, 2013, 10:11:52 AM
This is getting like the trollbox at btce. Every rise is to-the-moon and every drop is crash.
December 24, 2013, 10:06:15 AM
To the moon, again
December 24, 2013, 10:02:05 AM
December 24, 2013, 09:48:19 AM
Slovenia releases a statement 
Actually good news.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1tlr02/slovenia_releases_a_statement_about_taxing_of/
Also offical statement (in Slovene).
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Actually good news.http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1tlr02/slovenia_releases_a_statement_about_taxing_of/
Also offical statement (in Slovene).
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this is something new, although i called DURS Kranj sometime ago (when the price was at 100 and I wanted cash some of my profits) and the lady already knew about bitcoin, in fact when I told her that the price was around 100 she was really surprised she told me that she remember when it was $1 and she asked me why the price went up.
long story short at the time she said there is no regulation around Bitcoin from Slovene government and she told me if I cash out I wont pay any taxes I just have to prove the source of my funds, then I asked her what if I did mine some of my bitcoins she asked me what was mining and I explained to her how the bitcoins are generated so she replied with a very interesting answer.
this was the answer:
a- "so miners are doing an effort and they get Bitcoins as compensation for their work, which they can sell for cash to cover their bills and take some profit" this from a legal point of view is undeclared work wich is illegal and the miners have to pay a fine for it and pay taxes for the income.
b- you invest some cash into Bitcoin (buy) than you daily trade or simple hold and after sometime you make a profit that you would like to cash out in this case you do not have to pay taxes because in a similar case when buying Dollars with euros or euros with Yuan or gold for Euros .... if the price of dollars against Euros goes up and you decide to convert back to euros you do not have to pay taxes for the profit you made.
c- if you are a merchant accepting bitcoin as a payment method, you will be taxed the same way as you do with fiat, the taxes would be based on bitcoin price at the time of the deal/service.
Slovenia for the first time have a clear statement about bitcoin, this is a real open minded statement from the government and I understand it as an endorsement and I think it helps the bitcoin economy.
Another country to my options list. Slovenia is beautiful too, I have been there a couple of time
December 24, 2013, 09:47:50 AM
Can you belt up about cars please, start your own thread, this one is long winded enough.
December 24, 2013, 09:44:30 AM
December 24, 2013, 09:38:36 AM
Slovenia releases a statement Actually good news.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1tlr02/slovenia_releases_a_statement_about_taxing_of/
Also offical statement (in Slovene).
http://www.durs.gov.si/si/davki_predpisi_in_pojasnila/dohodnina_pojasnila/dohodek_iz_kapitala/dobicek_iz_kapitala/vrednostni_papirji_in_delezi_v_gospodarskih_druzbah_zadrugah_in_drugih_oblikah_organiziranja_ter_investicijski_kuponi/davcna_obravnava_poslovanja_z_virtualno_valuto_po_zdoh_2_in_zddpo_2/
Actually good news.http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1tlr02/slovenia_releases_a_statement_about_taxing_of/
Also offical statement (in Slovene).
http://www.durs.gov.si/si/davki_predpisi_in_pojasnila/dohodnina_pojasnila/dohodek_iz_kapitala/dobicek_iz_kapitala/vrednostni_papirji_in_delezi_v_gospodarskih_druzbah_zadrugah_in_drugih_oblikah_organiziranja_ter_investicijski_kuponi/davcna_obravnava_poslovanja_z_virtualno_valuto_po_zdoh_2_in_zddpo_2/
Wow good news indeed. As I understand no taxes for buying or selling bitcoins. Taxes are applied only for profit from mining or seling stuff for bitcoin.
edit: didn't see it, mmitech had nice summary already written
December 24, 2013, 09:27:17 AM
Sweet
As elegant as late 60's F1 and it probably took even more guts. 80's F1 was mad stuff too, Renault had over 1100bhp and where using second hand road car engine blocks to do it and the Peugeot in that clip is getting a similar output from a road car block. Take the power figures for group B with a pinch of salt too, they where all lying through their teeth about output figures (it was traditional, mini coopers where near double the official 69bhp). Another family friend in Dubai drove/navigated for Lancia, the Delta's where putting out over 1000bhp at that stage and they where caught a few times with extinguishers full of nitrous plumbed in to boost that figure.
December 24, 2013, 09:14:06 AM
those ppl hopping on the road are just crazy 
wonder are many died in at there?
wonder are many died in at there? December 24, 2013, 09:13:57 AM
Slovenia releases a statement Actually good news.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1tlr02/slovenia_releases_a_statement_about_taxing_of/
Also offical statement (in Slovene).
http://www.durs.gov.si/si/davki_predpisi_in_pojasnila/dohodnina_pojasnila/dohodek_iz_kapitala/dobicek_iz_kapitala/vrednostni_papirji_in_delezi_v_gospodarskih_druzbah_zadrugah_in_drugih_oblikah_organiziranja_ter_investicijski_kuponi/davcna_obravnava_poslovanja_z_virtualno_valuto_po_zdoh_2_in_zddpo_2/
Traditionaly it is not good news when you mix slovenia and banking just go to wikipedia and search for Ljubljanska Banka and what they did when business went bad. 150000 customers were shaved like in the sheep market recently, and that was not some tor hidden drug market but a bank. Actually good news.http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1tlr02/slovenia_releases_a_statement_about_taxing_of/
Also offical statement (in Slovene).
http://www.durs.gov.si/si/davki_predpisi_in_pojasnila/dohodnina_pojasnila/dohodek_iz_kapitala/dobicek_iz_kapitala/vrednostni_papirji_in_delezi_v_gospodarskih_druzbah_zadrugah_in_drugih_oblikah_organiziranja_ter_investicijski_kuponi/davcna_obravnava_poslovanja_z_virtualno_valuto_po_zdoh_2_in_zddpo_2/
December 24, 2013, 09:13:40 AM
Slovenia releases a statement Actually good news.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1tlr02/slovenia_releases_a_statement_about_taxing_of/
Also offical statement (in Slovene).
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Actually good news.http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1tlr02/slovenia_releases_a_statement_about_taxing_of/
Also offical statement (in Slovene).
deleted
this is something new, although i called DURS Kranj sometime ago (when the price was at 100 and I wanted cash some of my profits) and the lady already knew about bitcoin, in fact when I told her that the price was around 100 she was really surprised she told me that she remember when it was $1 and she asked me why the price went up.
long story short at the time she said there is no regulation around Bitcoin from Slovene government and she told me if I cash out I wont pay any taxes I just have to prove the source of my funds, then I asked her what if I did mine some of my bitcoins she asked me what was mining and I explained to her how the bitcoins are generated so she replied with a very interesting answer.
this was the answer:
a- "so miners are doing an effort and they get Bitcoins as compensation for their work, which they can sell for cash to cover their bills and take some profit" this from a legal point of view is undeclared work wich is illegal and the miners have to pay a fine for it and pay taxes for the income.
b- you invest some cash into Bitcoin (buy) than you daily trade or simple hold and after sometime you make a profit that you would like to cash out in this case you do not have to pay taxes because in a similar case when buying Dollars with euros or euros with Yuan or gold for Euros .... if the price of dollars against Euros goes up and you decide to convert back to euros you do not have to pay taxes for the profit you made.
c- if you are a merchant accepting bitcoin as a payment method, you will be taxed the same way as you do with fiat, the taxes would be based on bitcoin price at the time of the deal/service.
Slovenia for the first time have a clear statement about bitcoin, this is a real open minded statement from the government and I understand it as an endorsement and I think it helps the bitcoin economy.
December 24, 2013, 09:08:18 AM
Audi in action - the crowds don't give a shit - lining the roads....
Great car though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AQmgeMoM0A
Great car though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AQmgeMoM0A
December 24, 2013, 09:05:52 AM
Looking a little bearish - you still got fiat, Ghandibt?
I have been 'hodling' a bit of fiat since before the weekend - only half a dozen BTC-worth at current price, but still have buys set sub-600 down to 500....
Am still thinking I might be able to make a coin or two...
I have been 'hodling' a bit of fiat since before the weekend - only half a dozen BTC-worth at current price, but still have buys set sub-600 down to 500....
Am still thinking I might be able to make a coin or two...
im 50/50
December 24, 2013, 09:05:50 AM
Balu is coming
December 24, 2013, 09:01:58 AM
December 24, 2013, 08:59:14 AM
Looking a little bearish - you still got fiat, Ghandibt?
I have been 'hodling' a bit of fiat since before the weekend - only half a dozen BTC-worth at current price, but still have buys set sub-600 down to 500....
Am still thinking I might be able to make a coin or two...
I have been 'hodling' a bit of fiat since before the weekend - only half a dozen BTC-worth at current price, but still have buys set sub-600 down to 500....
Am still thinking I might be able to make a coin or two...
December 24, 2013, 08:55:27 AM
That is pretty amazing - one of those 'one slip and you're dead' drives.
I took a car and drove all round Iceland this summer and I shat myself on some of the gravel covered hairpin mountain roads.
Bum-clenching 'don't look down' moments a-plenty - but not at rally speeds like in that vid. I am a pussy and I quite like life!
December 24, 2013, 08:46:00 AM
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