Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 30925. (Read 26711545 times)
December 18, 2013, 04:46:12 AM
$425 on CNY, that means trend is still downwards
December 18, 2013, 04:45:20 AM
Why are the polls on here are always so bullish, no 200 or 300? Not even 450?
December 18, 2013, 04:44:59 AM
One thing bitcoin needs badly right now is a leveraged trading market with real capital. Bitfinex and Icbit are useless to us because a single margin deposit is likely to exceed their available funds.
How would that solve the volatility issue? If anything it will create more of it by putting in more capital bottlenecks. The very same ones you are having issues with right now.Its pretty obvious he wants to buy right now, but has no funds. With leverage he could use coins to buy coins and volatility during a crash is reduced by large bids and buys.
exactly.... ppl think leveraged is bad.... its actually increase capitals to reduce volatility.
Notice how its not as bad as previous crashes?
December 18, 2013, 04:44:33 AM
Things look similar to April.
On 12 Apr 12pm (UTC, same below), it made the first low at $54.25 (gox), or 1.70x of the last ATH of $32
Then on 16 Apr (Tuesday) 7am, it made a lower low at $50.01, or 1.56x of the last ATH, or 0.92x of the previous low. This is also the all time low so far.
On 7 Dec 7am, it made the first low at $542.38 (bitstamp), or 2.04x of the last ATH of $266
Then today, on 18 Dec (Wednesday) 8am, it made a lower low at $473.01, 1.78x of the last ATH, or 0.87x of the previous low
Do the underlined figures look very similar?
For those who stayed here long enough should remember what happened after the $50.01 low. If the history will repeat, US people will decide to buy when they wake up.
On 12 Apr 12pm (UTC, same below), it made the first low at $54.25 (gox), or 1.70x of the last ATH of $32
Then on 16 Apr (Tuesday) 7am, it made a lower low at $50.01, or 1.56x of the last ATH, or 0.92x of the previous low. This is also the all time low so far.
On 7 Dec 7am, it made the first low at $542.38 (bitstamp), or 2.04x of the last ATH of $266
Then today, on 18 Dec (Wednesday) 8am, it made a lower low at $473.01, 1.78x of the last ATH, or 0.87x of the previous low
Do the underlined figures look very similar?
For those who stayed here long enough should remember what happened after the $50.01 low. If the history will repeat, US people will decide to buy when they wake up.
Now wouldn't it be funny?
*Excellent observation... My compliments
December 18, 2013, 04:43:42 AM
One thing bitcoin needs badly right now is a leveraged trading market with real capital. Bitfinex and Icbit are useless to us because a single margin deposit is likely to exceed their available funds.
WALL STREET! SAVE US FROM OURSELVES!
December 18, 2013, 04:43:36 AM
One thing bitcoin needs badly right now is a leveraged trading market with real capital. Bitfinex and Icbit are useless to us because a single margin deposit is likely to exceed their available funds.
That's probably something being built as we speak. When big money enters the game, specially Wall Street one, they'll require that kind of trading as they are used to it.
December 18, 2013, 04:43:33 AM
One thing bitcoin needs badly right now is a leveraged trading market with real capital. Bitfinex and Icbit are useless to us because a single margin deposit is likely to exceed their available funds.
I will move to China and follow Bobby around with a briefcase full of cash for you. My fee per day would be less then what you consider bitcoin dust.
December 18, 2013, 04:43:14 AM
One thing bitcoin needs badly right now is a leveraged trading market with real capital. Bitfinex and Icbit are useless to us because a single margin deposit is likely to exceed their available funds.
How would that solve the volatility issue? If anything it will create more of it by putting in more capital bottlenecks. The very same ones you are having issues with right now.Its pretty obvious he wants to buy right now, but has no funds. With leverage he could use coins to buy coins and volatility during a crash is reduced by large bids and buys.
December 18, 2013, 04:42:47 AM
Things look similar to April.
On 12 Apr 12pm (UTC, same below), it made the first low at $54.25 (gox), or 1.70x of the last ATH of $32
Then on 16 Apr (Tuesday) 7am, it made a lower low at $50.01, or 1.56x of the last ATH, or 0.92x of the previous low. This is also the all time low so far.
On 7 Dec 7am, it made the first low at $542.38 (bitstamp), or 2.04x of the last ATH of $266
Then today, on 18 Dec (Wednesday) 8am, it made a lower low at $473.01, 1.78x of the last ATH, or 0.87x of the previous low
Do the underlined figures look very similar?
For those who stayed here long enough should remember what happened after the $50.01 low. If the history will repeat, US people will decide to buy when they wake up.
On 12 Apr 12pm (UTC, same below), it made the first low at $54.25 (gox), or 1.70x of the last ATH of $32
Then on 16 Apr (Tuesday) 7am, it made a lower low at $50.01, or 1.56x of the last ATH, or 0.92x of the previous low. This is also the all time low so far.
On 7 Dec 7am, it made the first low at $542.38 (bitstamp), or 2.04x of the last ATH of $266
Then today, on 18 Dec (Wednesday) 8am, it made a lower low at $473.01, 1.78x of the last ATH, or 0.87x of the previous low
Do the underlined figures look very similar?
For those who stayed here long enough should remember what happened after the $50.01 low. If the history will repeat, US people will decide to buy when they wake up.
December 18, 2013, 04:41:07 AM
This is why I tell people bitcoin will succeed. Any amount can be moved around the world in minutes. While I'm on the phone for hours with "personal bankers" who are supposed to be there for you 24/7, and still can't get a wire into any exchange in a timely fashion. This is my money, and my clients money, we should be able to move it wherever we want. We're talking 10s of millions, not some small transfer where they'll screw around with you for calling late at night.
ughhh who are you again?
someone who owns like 100k BTC or so..
yeah.,.... right
Can I lol ?
He can easily manipulate the market at any point of time if he wants, with those 80,000 BTC
Why don't you sell half of your coins right now, we want cheap coins
Nope that balance is empty. He sent to an address that has 40k now.....
Yeah this is why i loled at you guys.
Oh yeah, you're right. But his overall balance is surely not empty.
How do you know he own the other address? Can you stop making me laugh? or you just dont know how bitcoins work?
Its like the same idiots complaining there are 927 PEOPLE own >50% of bitcoin.
Hes signed messages with that address as well.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1p6lnq/i_am_loaded_of_bitcointalkorg_ama/
Thanks, tired of quoting this one
December 18, 2013, 04:40:50 AM
this time we are chined chinaxed ??
December 18, 2013, 04:39:39 AM
One thing bitcoin needs badly right now is a leveraged trading market with real capital. Bitfinex and Icbit are useless to us because a single margin deposit is likely to exceed their available funds.
How would that solve the volatility issue? If anything it will create more of it by putting in more capital bottlenecks. The very same ones you are having issues with right now. December 18, 2013, 04:39:15 AM
One thing bitcoin needs badly right now is a leveraged trading market with real capital. Bitfinex and Icbit are useless to us because a single margin deposit is likely to exceed their available funds.
That's probably something being built as we speak. When big money enters the game, specially Wall Street one, they'll require that kind of trading as they are used to it.
December 18, 2013, 04:39:14 AM
There WAS inside info for the fall. Risto has mentioned it here; but nobody listens to him... BTW: WTF is he? Still buying cheap coins? 
BTW: WTF is he? Still buying cheap coins? December 18, 2013, 04:38:59 AM
This is why I tell people bitcoin will succeed. Any amount can be moved around the world in minutes. While I'm on the phone for hours with "personal bankers" who are supposed to be there for you 24/7, and still can't get a wire into any exchange in a timely fashion. This is my money, and my clients money, we should be able to move it wherever we want. We're talking 10s of millions, not some small transfer where they'll screw around with you for calling late at night.
ughhh who are you again?
someone who owns like 100k BTC or so..
yeah.,.... right
Can I lol ?
He can easily manipulate the market at any point of time if he wants, with those 80,000 BTC
Why don't you sell half of your coins right now, we want cheap coins
Nope that balance is empty. He sent to an address that has 40k now.....
Yeah this is why i loled at you guys.
Oh yeah, you're right. But his overall balance is surely not empty.
How do you know he own the other address? Can you stop making me laugh? or you just dont know how bitcoins work?
Its like the same idiots complaining there are 927 PEOPLE own >50% of bitcoin.
Hes signed messages with that address as well.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1p6lnq/i_am_loaded_of_bitcointalkorg_ama/
December 18, 2013, 04:38:04 AM
This is why I tell people bitcoin will succeed. Any amount can be moved around the world in minutes. While I'm on the phone for hours with "personal bankers" who are supposed to be there for you 24/7, and still can't get a wire into any exchange in a timely fashion. This is my money, and my clients money, we should be able to move it wherever we want. We're talking 10s of millions, not some small transfer where they'll screw around with you for calling late at night.
ughhh who are you again?
someone who owns like 100k BTC or so..
yeah.,.... right
Can I lol ?
He can easily manipulate the market at any point of time if he wants, with those 80,000 BTC
Why don't you sell half of your coins right now, we want cheap coins
Nope that balance is empty. He sent to an address that has 40k now.....
Yeah this is why i loled at you guys.
Oh yeah, you're right. But his overall balance is surely not empty.
How do you know he own the other address? Can you stop making me laugh? or you just dont know how bitcoins work?
Its like the some idiots complaining there are 927 PEOPLE own >50% of bitcoin.
December 18, 2013, 04:37:45 AM
chinese just pulled the most epic pump and dump of all time.
December 18, 2013, 04:37:01 AM
Ok, we've been stable for 20 minutes. Time to go all honey badger again.
there have been many of these moments lately. I'll chill the fuck out when someone buy 2.5k coins in a single buy.
also to the doom and gloom about China.. why don't we wait for them to actually say something. We know they were asked to stop using third party deposit systems and Chinese companies love to self censor so we just need to let them show us what their Government decided was the new way to deposit as well if they do.
That's just the thing. The Chinese gov't announces very little. What they do behind the scenes is another story.
December 18, 2013, 04:36:51 AM
One thing bitcoin needs badly right now is a leveraged trading market with real capital. Bitfinex and Icbit are useless to us because a single margin deposit is likely to exceed their available funds.
December 18, 2013, 04:36:23 AM
This is why I tell people bitcoin will succeed. Any amount can be moved around the world in minutes. While I'm on the phone for hours with "personal bankers" who are supposed to be there for you 24/7, and still can't get a wire into any exchange in a timely fashion. This is my money, and my clients money, we should be able to move it wherever we want. We're talking 10s of millions, not some small transfer where they'll screw around with you for calling late at night.
ughhh who are you again?
someone who owns like 100k BTC or so..
yeah.,.... right
Not sure if sarcastic or you have no idea how bitcoin works.
i'm a noob
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