Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 31204. (Read 26729402 times)
December 14, 2013, 01:34:39 AM
oh no big 5450 support on china fell on some big sells
December 14, 2013, 01:18:54 AM
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This is just part of the psychological manipulation game. The "wall" is not there to keep the price down, and of course not to sell. It is there for the sole purpose of keeping the bid sum/ask sum numbers manipulated. Makes it seem that there are a lot of coins for sale, when in fact, a good chunk of the asks are that one person. Once people start to figure this out, and that there are not nearly as many coins for sale at this price as it would seem, well, that will be interesting for sure . . .
Yeah I know that's why I'm posting it, I love exposing and playing with the manipulative whales
I think they hate me alot
Thank you for doing that :p
But when I see a big sale like that, I can never be 100% sure its the same person buying back. It'll always be just a suspicion cause I cant prove it.
December 14, 2013, 01:13:46 AM
DGC to the moon - http://www.btc38.com/trade.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=dgc 
0.0009 on cryptsy, 2000% over price I bought it month ago, yeah
0.0009 on cryptsy, 2000% over price I bought it month ago, yeah
December 14, 2013, 01:11:33 AM
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This is just part of the psychological manipulation game. The "wall" is not there to keep the price down, and of course not to sell. It is there for the sole purpose of keeping the bid sum/ask sum numbers manipulated. Makes it seem that there are a lot of coins for sale, when in fact, a good chunk of the asks are that one person. Once people start to figure this out, and that there are not nearly as many coins for sale at this price as it would seem, well, that will be interesting for sure . . .
Yeah I know that's why I'm posting it, I love exposing and playing with the manipulative whales
I think they hate me alot
December 14, 2013, 01:09:43 AM
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This is just part of the psychological manipulation game. The "wall" is not there to keep the price down, and of course not to sell. It is there for the sole purpose of keeping the bid sum/ask sum numbers manipulated. Makes it seem that there are a lot of coins for sale, when in fact, a good chunk of the asks are that one person. Once people start to figure this out, and that there are not nearly as many coins for sale at this price as it would seem, well, that will be interesting for sure . . .
Yeah I know that's why I'm posting it, I love exposing and playing with the manipulative whales
I think they hate me alot
December 14, 2013, 01:03:20 AM
Nice wall and someone is trying to hide a big ask above $1500:
This is just part of the psychological manipulation game. The "wall" is not there to keep the price down, and of course not to sell. It is there for the sole purpose of keeping the bid sum/ask sum numbers manipulated. Makes it seem that there are a lot of coins for sale, when in fact, a good chunk of the asks are that one person. Once people start to figure this out, and that there are not nearly as many coins for sale at this price as it would seem, well, that will be interesting for sure . . .
December 14, 2013, 01:02:13 AM
December 14, 2013, 12:55:43 AM
Nice wall and someone is trying to hide a big ask above $1500:
December 14, 2013, 12:40:34 AM
We will have to agree to disagree: i) For you cryptographically signed messages have no significance, ii) for me they have a very strong significance.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/7001
And much of the world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_signatures_and_law
Hilariously, what we think of as digital signatures (cryptographic) are pretty much just an afterthought to most of those laws. Typically, those laws are about fax machines, and web buttons labelled "I agree" and other such nonsense.
Bullshit. If you made a website with the following elements:
"I own all your shit now" and a button stating "I agree"
A visitor clicking said button would not transfer ownership.
Similarly a "these are Risto's coins" message is not a contract and isn't binding.
The "I agree" thing is called in the legal community Clickwrap. And it depends on what you're agreeing to as to whether a court will enforce it. Courts normally don't like it.
A digital signature is just as valid for most things, such as entering into a contract, as a signature signed on paper with a pen. Remember, most contracts aren't even required to be in writing, much less have a signature.
But no. You can't "trick" someone into signing away rights. That would be fraud.
I believe one day we will see a court case where someone wrote from their BTC address on a digital sig "They would send BTC after receiving 10 LTC." but not sending the BTC afterwards. And all the evidence will be in the blockchain. It will be interesting how that case will go.
December 14, 2013, 12:37:44 AM
PEOPLE!
What are you talking about? We're missing the subject here... which is:
December 14, 2013, 12:30:38 AM
We will have to agree to disagree: i) For you cryptographically signed messages have no significance, ii) for me they have a very strong significance.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/7001
And much of the world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_signatures_and_law
Hilariously, what we think of as digital signatures (cryptographic) are pretty much just an afterthought to most of those laws. Typically, those laws are about fax machines, and web buttons labelled "I agree" and other such nonsense.
Bullshit. If you made a website with the following elements:
"I own all your shit now" and a button stating "I agree"
A visitor clicking said button would not transfer ownership.
Similarly a "these are Risto's coins" message is not a contract and isn't binding.
The "I agree" thing is called in the legal community Clickwrap. And it depends on what you're agreeing to as to whether a court will enforce it. Courts normally don't like it.
A digital signature is just as valid for most things, such as entering into a contract, as a signature signed on paper with a pen. Remember, most contracts aren't even required to be in writing, much less have a signature.
But no. You can't "trick" someone into signing away rights. That would be fraud.
December 14, 2013, 12:24:40 AM
arent triangles less reliable if we go all the way to the end?
Well it's actually still a few hours away from the apex and closer to the bottom now.But it's in the middle of all the EMAs.
December 14, 2013, 12:21:48 AM
We will have to agree to disagree: i) For you cryptographically signed messages have no significance, ii) for me they have a very strong significance.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/7001
And much of the world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_signatures_and_law
Hilariously, what we think of as digital signatures (cryptographic) are pretty much just an afterthought to most of those laws. Typically, those laws are about fax machines, and web buttons labelled "I agree" and other such nonsense.
Bullshit. If you made a website with the following elements:
"I own all your shit now" and a button stating "I agree"
A visitor clicking said button would not transfer ownership.
Similarly a "these are Risto's coins" message is not a contract and isn't binding.
December 14, 2013, 12:21:04 AM
arent triangles less reliable if we go all the way to the end?
December 14, 2013, 12:19:17 AM
seems altcoins are dropping across the board..... any idea if this means anything?
returning to some form of sanity....For me that means we are returning to a more normal level of speculation.
I think many altcoins were being heavily overhyped/pumped.
. December 14, 2013, 12:18:22 AM
There's a kung fu fight in China at the apex of a triangle.
December 14, 2013, 12:17:22 AM
I've seen that before and it's rather vague re. patterns...it is something of a theoretical leap. However, we are 'hard-wired' for optimism...you should enjoy this
http://positivepsychologynews.com/news/louisa-jewell/2011062118294
which discusses Tali Sharot's work.
And by the way....did you ever post that poem you owe me?
http://positivepsychologynews.com/news/louisa-jewell/2011062118294
which discusses Tali Sharot's work.
And by the way....did you ever post that poem you owe me?
Working on it still. Turning into an epic saga. I might seek out a popular publisher.
December 14, 2013, 12:14:01 AM
We will have to agree to disagree: i) For you cryptographically signed messages have no significance, ii) for me they have a very strong significance.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/7001
And much of the world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_signatures_and_law
Hilariously, what we think of as digital signatures (cryptographic) are pretty much just an afterthought to most of those laws. Typically, those laws are about fax machines, and web buttons labelled "I agree" and other such nonsense.
December 14, 2013, 12:08:06 AM
For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
No man can serve two masters.
No man can serve two masters.
Hello newbie.
While some here are consumed with chasing wealth, others of us have different goals. Maybe no one can serve two masters, but one can certainly serve one, while being master over another. Bitcoin serves me, not the other way around . . .
December 14, 2013, 12:04:15 AM
We will have to agree to disagree: i) For you cryptographically signed messages have no significance, ii) for me they have a very strong significance.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/7001
And much of the world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_signatures_and_law
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