Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 31388.

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Quote from: gizmoh on December 05, 2013, 01:32:34 AM

Granted i traded btc without issue, Btce is incompetent or near scam when dealing with USD deposit. And i dont know about usd withdrawals..
I'm still waiting for my wire deposit to get credited after 10 days.

this is true, i would not wire money there.

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Quote from: TERA on December 05, 2013, 01:28:57 AM

Btce is where the big swings are. During high volatility, it follows gox almost perfectly. Bitstamp on the other hand moves slowly and unexpectedly. While btce is having a 15% swing, bitstamp will have a 1% swing... bitstamp can royally screw you as a trader trying to make a trade that would be perfect anywhere else. Also, btce's exchange engine works flawlessly - the best, it has the least downtime, and you can trade altcoins. What more can you ask for? When it comes time to withdraw THEN you can send your coins to bit stamp.

all of this. btce is the best for everything except fiat deposit/withdrawal. difficult to deposit and very low price if you want to exit to fiat. if you are into that sort of thing.

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Granted i traded btc without issue, Btce is incompetent or near scam when dealing with USD deposit. And i dont know about usd withdrawals..
I'm still waiting for my wire deposit to get credited after 10 days.

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Quote from: MikeH on December 04, 2013, 10:44:38 PM

Quote from: simonk83 on December 04, 2013, 06:47:36 PM

What's the deal in Aus anyway? How do they even know the money you recieve is Bitcoin related, or how long you've owned those coins (assuming the over one year - 50% cap gains applies)?

well you know we're all spied on these days, actually the bank could possibly notify the tax office if money comes from an exchange - the strange thing is we don't pay tax on winnings from lotteries or gambling, you'd think high risk investments would fit into that category.

The reason why in AU we don't pay tax on lottery or gambling winnings is because our lottery or gambling costs would be tax deductible if so.

Regarding capital gains tax, I believe that the tax you pay is the same as if it was part of normal income. So you would only pay near 45% if you were already earning over 180k. It is an honesty system, you are free to not declare, but audits are not fun, the presumption of innocence is reversed. You have to prove you are not guilty, not the ATO having to prove you guilty.

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Btce is where the big swings are. During high volatility, it follows gox almost perfectly. Bitstamp on the other hand moves slowly and unexpectedly. While btce is having a 15% swing, bitstamp will have a 1% swing... bitstamp can royally screw you as a trader trying to make a trade that would be perfect anywhere else. Also, btce's exchange engine works flawlessly - the best, it has the least downtime, and you can trade altcoins. What more can you ask for? When it comes time to withdraw THEN you can send your coins to bit stamp.

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Quote from: I_bitcoin on December 04, 2013, 11:43:13 PM

Completely legit beating of gold would be to take the global weighted average when all major exchanges are reporting/working.

https://bitcoinaverage.com

Wtf?

That says BTC-e has the most volume.

why does this shock you?

its the only exchange i will even use...

You withdraw cash from BTC-e? Why not stamp?

oh no, i don't use any exchange to get fiat.

fuck that

Forums/large individual sale only? You must have sold for fiat at least once...

i did a $93,000 public trade with a star of the this thread and we did it in this thread:)

but really, exchanges are not needed and i always do a fair rate. nothing like 50% over, lol

OK, first of all, that's just awesome. Secondly, I'm not surprised.

But, how did you manage the fiat side of things, if you don't mind discussing it?

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Quote from: I_bitcoin on December 04, 2013, 11:43:13 PM

Completely legit beating of gold would be to take the global weighted average when all major exchanges are reporting/working.

https://bitcoinaverage.com

Wtf?

That says BTC-e has the most volume.

why does this shock you?

its the only exchange i will even use...

You withdraw cash from BTC-e? Why not stamp?

oh no, i don't use any exchange to get fiat.

fuck that

Forums/large individual sale only? You must have sold for fiat at least once...

If you can't get more than MtGox from OTC, you aren't really trying.
http://bitcoincharts.com/charts/localbtcUSD#rg5ztgSzm1g10zm2g25zv

Fast coins are worth more than cheap coins, a lot more in a rising market.

Daily trades over US$2k

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Quote from: Vycid on December 05, 2013, 12:44:18 AM

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Quote from: Vycid on December 04, 2013, 11:45:24 PM

Quote from: I_bitcoin on December 04, 2013, 11:43:13 PM

Completely legit beating of gold would be to take the global weighted average when all major exchanges are reporting/working.

https://bitcoinaverage.com

Wtf?

That says BTC-e has the most volume.

why does this shock you?

its the only exchange i will even use...

You withdraw cash from BTC-e? Why not stamp?

oh no, i don't use any exchange to get fiat.

fuck that

Forums/large individual sale only? You must have sold for fiat at least once...

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Quote from: Vycid on December 04, 2013, 11:45:24 PM

Quote from: I_bitcoin on December 04, 2013, 11:43:13 PM

Completely legit beating of gold would be to take the global weighted average when all major exchanges are reporting/working.

https://bitcoinaverage.com

Wtf?

That says BTC-e has the most volume.

why does this shock you?

its the only exchange i will even use...

true that!

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Quote from: Vycid on December 04, 2013, 11:45:24 PM

Quote from: I_bitcoin on December 04, 2013, 11:43:13 PM

Completely legit beating of gold would be to take the global weighted average when all major exchanges are reporting/working.

https://bitcoinaverage.com

Wtf?

That says BTC-e has the most volume.

why does this shock you?

its the only exchange i will even use...

You withdraw cash from BTC-e? Why not stamp?

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Quote from: I_bitcoin on December 04, 2013, 11:43:13 PM

Completely legit beating of gold would be to take the global weighted average when all major exchanges are reporting/working.

https://bitcoinaverage.com

Wtf?

That says BTC-e has the most volume.

Huh, good point. I never paid much attention. Do you think BTC-E is Faux volume of trades or perhaps just crazy bot trade?

I honestly don't know.

MtGox is well known to be a clusterfuck of incompetence but I'd expect their business to go to Bitstamp, not BTC-e.

Maybe it's bot-trade, the alt currencies have been going nuts.

Isn't btc-e where all the scammed btc end up on and didn't some guy steal 90,000 recently?

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Quote from: TERA on December 05, 2013, 12:10:19 AM

One final correction to 1080 before next leg?

more like $1160

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One final correction to 1100 before next leg?

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Quote from: Vycid on December 04, 2013, 11:56:36 PM

Quote from: I_bitcoin on December 04, 2013, 11:54:52 PM

Quote from: Vycid on December 04, 2013, 11:45:24 PM

Quote from: I_bitcoin on December 04, 2013, 11:43:13 PM

Completely legit beating of gold would be to take the global weighted average when all major exchanges are reporting/working.

https://bitcoinaverage.com

Wtf?

That says BTC-e has the most volume.

Huh, good point. I never paid much attention. Do you think BTC-E is Faux volume of trades or perhaps just crazy bot trade?

I honestly don't know.

MtGox is well known to be a clusterfuck of incompetence but I'd expect their business to go to Bitstamp, not BTC-e.

Maybe it's bot-trade, the alt currencies have been going nuts.

BTCE has decent volume when times are volatile, bots too

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Quote from: I_bitcoin on December 04, 2013, 11:54:52 PM

Quote from: Vycid on December 04, 2013, 11:45:24 PM

Quote from: I_bitcoin on December 04, 2013, 11:43:13 PM

Completely legit beating of gold would be to take the global weighted average when all major exchanges are reporting/working.

https://bitcoinaverage.com

Wtf?

That says BTC-e has the most volume.

Huh, good point. I never paid much attention. Do you think BTC-E is Faux volume of trades or perhaps just crazy bot trade?

I honestly don't know.

MtGox is well known to be a clusterfuck of incompetence but I'd expect their business to go to Bitstamp, not BTC-e.

Maybe it's bot-trade, the alt currencies have been going nuts.

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Quote from: Vycid on December 04, 2013, 11:45:24 PM

Quote from: I_bitcoin on December 04, 2013, 11:43:13 PM

Completely legit beating of gold would be to take the global weighted average when all major exchanges are reporting/working.

https://bitcoinaverage.com

Wtf?

That says BTC-e has the most volume.

Huh, good point. I never paid much attention. Do you think BTC-E is Faux volume of trades or perhaps just crazy bot trade?

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Quote from: Vycid on December 04, 2013, 11:27:24 PM

Quote from: dwdoc on December 04, 2013, 11:26:20 PM

At 22:23:19 CST Gox Bitcoin (1237.889) passed the spot price of gold (1237.82) for the first time.

No, we did that already.

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Apples and oranges. That was comparing Last Gox Trade price of bitcoin to Gold bid. The last trade price of gold was above 1242 (1242.80) at that time so didn't quite make it until tonite.

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Quote from: I_bitcoin on December 04, 2013, 11:43:13 PM

Completely legit beating of gold would be to take the global weighted average when all major exchanges are reporting/working.

https://bitcoinaverage.com

Wtf?

That says BTC-e has the most volume.

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