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hero member
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The best course of action for the guy is to extort Bitcoins from you guys on a bitcoin related tor site by means of a signed message saying: Send me more coins or I will dump. Grin

This almost makes me send a Satoshi with the message: "Dump Moth*** , Dump If you have the balls"
sr. member
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
Now some Very Bad News for the Bulls:

Why would this be bad news in any situation? Was the SR shutdown bad news for bulls? We all know the answer.

By the way, we are about to go up (for some other reasons), just watch Wink


In the SR  episode the bitcoins were safe , the FBI won't sell them for a few years until the trial ends.
In the sheep case , we have one fugitive trying to run with money , and the scenario he might try to dump them .

He will have to lie low - any fiat that turns up in large quantities will be noticed...

It's not like he needs to sell all of them at once - 1% will fund hiding away for a year - assuming he hasn't already got some money to keep him for a while.

He's only at risk when he shows up with fiat or large coin movements....

We have a guy , previously running a drug market , running away with 90 Millions , trying to make them vanishing but seeing his efforts nuked , with people threatening him (and not normal people) with a media fuss around. Do you think he can keep calm and act by the book ?

If he does something dumb and gets killed - THAT'S a film script, right there...
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 501
in defi we trust
Now some Very Bad News for the Bulls:

Why would this be bad news in any situation? Was the SR shutdown bad news for bulls? We all know the answer.

By the way, we are about to go up (for some other reasons), just watch Wink


In the SR  episode the bitcoins were safe , the FBI won't sell them for a few years until the trial ends.
In the sheep case , we have one fugitive trying to run with money , and the scenario he might try to dump them .

He will have to lie low - any fiat that turns up in large quantities will be noticed...

It's not like he needs to sell all of them at once - 1% will fund hiding away for a year - assuming he hasn't already got some money to keep him for a while.

He's only at risk when he shows up with fiat or large coin movements....

We have a guy , previously running a drug market , running away with 90 Millions , trying to make them vanishing but seeing his efforts nuked , with people threatening him (and not normal people) with a media fuss around. Do you think he can keep calm and act by the book ?
legendary
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A $100 million heist where everyone in the world can see the wallet you have stashed the haul in....

Yep - it's a film script dilemma.

legendary
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Marketing manager - GO MP
The best course of action for the guy is to extort Bitcoins from you guys on a bitcoin related tor site by means of a signed message saying: Send me more coins or I will dump. Grin
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1748
Now some Very Bad News for the Bulls:

Why would this be bad news in any situation? Was the SR shutdown bad news for bulls? We all know the answer.

By the way, we are about to go up (for some other reasons), just watch Wink


In the SR  episode the bitcoins were safe , the FBI won't sell them for a few years until the trial ends.
In the sheep case , we have one fugitive trying to run with money , and the scenario he might try to dump them .

He will have to lie low - any fiat that turns up in large quantities will be noticed...

It's not like he needs to sell all of them at once - 1% will fund hiding away for a year - assuming he hasn't already got some money to keep him for a while.

He's only at risk when he shows up with fiat or large coin movements....
sr. member
Activity: 336
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
Do you guys really think Putin would allow the Feds to come in and close BTC-e?


Are you for real?

I am, yeah.

The Russian take pride in those kinds of things. They will never allow a full US operation and shakedown in their turf.

If it were to happen (through cooperation), the Russians themselves would be doing all the arresting and sequestering. But meh.. who knows..  BTC-e might be helping them right now with some occasional laundering..

I don't see it happening. At least not until another big big round of alt pumping & dumping.  

BULGARIA IS PART OF THE EUROPEAN UNION.

Sorry, I feel like there's some communication difficulty here. I will reduce sarcasm levels accordingly.

So what Huh

They work with russian banks, russian payment systems and russian credit card processors.

You think anyone really cares where the company is founded?

Where's the money is what matters.

CoinDesk has learned that BTC-e does not use a bank account with a company name, instead choosing to use a third party to provide banking services.

Depositors send money to UK company Mayzus Financial Services Ltd’s Deutsche Bank account in the Czech republic who use OKPAY, an e-currency provider to transfer users’ funds directly to the exchange.

Other than rumors , nothing Russian in it.

You're chasing the rabbit. It's the same story:

OKPay is another Russian company registered  abroad (British Virgin Islands) for fiscal purposes.

They operate through a network of banks in Cyprus, Czech Republic and Russia, so that should tell you something...

CoinDesk may have gotten the pretty side of the story. Russia and Cyprus sound a lot worse than just saying you operate in Czech Rep.


OK, here's what's going to happen, assuming anything does happen (it took 7 years to take down Liberty Reserve).

1) Bulgaria, under pressure from the EU or acting alone, will issue a cease and desist / refuse to renew the business license.

2) BTC-e will disband formally and continue to operate.

3) A multi-international task force will form to lead the investigation. This will include Russia, just like it did for Liberty Reserve.

Understand that Russia is not a rogue state. Just because they sheltered Snowden in order to give the US a political black eye does NOT mean they interfere with financial investigations. They're not North Korea.

4) Legal jurisdiction for the prosecution of the individuals will almost certainly go to Bulgaria, who will extradite them at their discretion. As Bulgaria is part of the EU, that means they're fucked.

Some other things to keep in mind: Russian banks and payment services comply with US or international requests to freeze money. They like having the ability to transfer money internationally.
hero member
Activity: 826
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in defi we trust
Now some Very Bad News for the Bulls:

Why would this be bad news in any situation? Was the SR shutdown bad news for bulls? We all know the answer.

By the way, we are about to go up (for some other reasons), just watch Wink


In the SR  episode the bitcoins were safe , the FBI won't sell them for a few years until the trial ends.
In the sheep case , we have one fugitive trying to run with money , and the scenario he might try to dump them .
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
Ultranode
Anyway, who cares. Bitcoin isn't going to $10,000 until it gets Jim Cramer's approval. Then the sheep money will really start to flow in.

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

legendary
Activity: 2604
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Are you guys seeing this?

https://blockchain.info/address/1CbR8da9YPZqXJJKm9ze1GYf67eKAUfXwP

Aftermath of the scam: people sending him more BTC.

Quite funny.
Are you sure that is coming from other people and not coin tumblers or something of the sort?

Lots of people begging for coins there:)
And this:

Public Note: Algerian prinCe, pUre unOBTAINium SHARE, B4 Culture requIres me to pay 5.55 btc, RegretFUlly Gorillaz ate wallet, leNd me COIN i will RE-PAY you ASAP, trust U share with fellow *Wo*MAN IN NEED... Know U red-it & know Y wii-CU
Hm... Yeah, i'm seeing those now... Hm, any proof those aren't his sock puppets or something like that?

Isn't that people sending coins to track what he does with them (even if he rinses them) and see where the money goes to - acts as a marker....
I was gonna say that is smart, but then i realized we already know his address, any coin that leaves that address works as a marker already...right?

When he first grabbed them - he split it all up into endless wallets - the trackers knew he had to wait for confirmations, so they were sending coin to follow the wallets, of course the 'laundry' all ended up in one basket.

Now he is probably wondering what the fuck to do to move it faster so it can't be tracked.

A lot of people watching - a bit of a dilemma for the chap.  

First attempt to run failed - but he still has the key.

Every dark hat in the world will be trying to bust into his stash any way they can!

That's a $100 million wanted poster!
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 501
in defi we trust

You're chasing the rabbit. It's the same story:

OKPay is another Russian company registered  abroad (British Virgin Islands) for fiscal purposes.

They operate through a network of banks in Cyprus, Czech Republic and Russia, so that should tell you something...

CoinDesk may have gotten the pretty side of the story. Russia and Cyprus sound a lot worse than just saying you operate in Czech Rep.


And it seems that this Russian company doesn't want to anger Uncle Sam even a bit.
Remember the gox episode? And the current ban on us residents?

It seems they care a bit to much for people backed by the Putin Bear.
full member
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1MCKW9AkWj3aopC1aPegcZEf2fYNrhUQVf
Now some Very Bad News for the Bulls:

Why would this be bad news in any situation? Was the SR shutdown bad news for bulls? We all know the answer.

By the way, we are about to go up (for some other reasons), just watch Wink
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
Firstbits.com/1fg4i :)
Are you guys seeing this?

https://blockchain.info/address/1CbR8da9YPZqXJJKm9ze1GYf67eKAUfXwP

Aftermath of the scam: people sending him more BTC.

Quite funny.
Are you sure that is coming from other people and not coin tumblers or something of the sort?

Lots of people begging for coins there:)
And this:

Public Note: Algerian prinCe, pUre unOBTAINium SHARE, B4 Culture requIres me to pay 5.55 btc, RegretFUlly Gorillaz ate wallet, leNd me COIN i will RE-PAY you ASAP, trust U share with fellow *Wo*MAN IN NEED... Know U red-it & know Y wii-CU
Hm... Yeah, i'm seeing those now... Hm, any proof those aren't his sock puppets or something like that?

Isn't that people sending coins to track what he does with them (even if he rinses them) and see where the money goes to - acts as a marker....
I was gonna say that is smart, but then i realized we already know his address, any coin that leaves that address works as a marker already...right?
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
Do you guys really think Putin would allow the Feds to come in and close BTC-e?


Are you for real?

I am, yeah.

The Russian take pride in those kinds of things. They will never allow a full US operation and shakedown in their turf.

If it were to happen (through cooperation), the Russians themselves would be doing all the arresting and sequestering. But meh.. who knows..  BTC-e might be helping them right now with some occasional laundering..

I don't see it happening. At least not until another big big round of alt pumping & dumping.  

BULGARIA IS PART OF THE EUROPEAN UNION.

Sorry, I feel like there's some communication difficulty here. I will reduce sarcasm levels accordingly.

So what Huh

They work with russian banks, russian payment systems and russian credit card processors.

You think anyone really cares where the company is founded?

Where's the money is what matters.

CoinDesk has learned that BTC-e does not use a bank account with a company name, instead choosing to use a third party to provide banking services.

Depositors send money to UK company Mayzus Financial Services Ltd’s Deutsche Bank account in the Czech republic who use OKPAY, an e-currency provider to transfer users’ funds directly to the exchange.

Other than rumors , nothing Russian in it.

You're chasing the rabbit. It's the same story:

OKPay is another Russian company registered  abroad (British Virgin Islands) for fiscal purposes.

They operate through a network of banks in Cyprus, Czech Republic and Russia, so that should tell you something...

CoinDesk may have gotten the pretty side of the story. Russia and Cyprus sound a lot worse than just saying you operate in Czech Rep.
hero member
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Firstbits.com/1fg4i :)
Do we know how much of that was from the users and how much was the site's profit?
hero member
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Merit: 501
in defi we trust
Some of them are , but the rest are the usual spammers.
Check the fbi address or others in the top100.
legendary
Activity: 2604
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Mind you - that's some wallet:

Final Balance    92,000.99143701 BTC

Yikes!
legendary
Activity: 2604
Merit: 1748
Are you guys seeing this?

https://blockchain.info/address/1CbR8da9YPZqXJJKm9ze1GYf67eKAUfXwP

Aftermath of the scam: people sending him more BTC.

Quite funny.
Are you sure that is coming from other people and not coin tumblers or something of the sort?

Lots of people begging for coins there:)
And this:

Public Note: Algerian prinCe, pUre unOBTAINium SHARE, B4 Culture requIres me to pay 5.55 btc, RegretFUlly Gorillaz ate wallet, leNd me COIN i will RE-PAY you ASAP, trust U share with fellow *Wo*MAN IN NEED... Know U red-it & know Y wii-CU
Hm... Yeah, i'm seeing those now... Hm, any proof those aren't his sock puppets or something like that?

Isn't that people sending coins to track what he does with them (even if he rinses them) and see where the money goes to - acts as a marker....
legendary
Activity: 2380
Merit: 1823
1CBuddyxy4FerT3hzMmi1Jz48ESzRw1ZzZ
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 501
in defi we trust
Do you guys really think Putin would allow the Feds to come in and close BTC-e?


Are you for real?

I am, yeah.

The Russian take pride in those kinds of things. They will never allow a full US operation and shakedown in their turf.

If it were to happen (through cooperation), the Russians themselves would be doing all the arresting and sequestering. But meh.. who knows..  BTC-e might be helping them right now with some occasional laundering..

I don't see it happening. At least not until another big big round of alt pumping & dumping.  

BULGARIA IS PART OF THE EUROPEAN UNION.

Sorry, I feel like there's some communication difficulty here. I will reduce sarcasm levels accordingly.

So what Huh

They work with russian banks, russian payment systems and russian credit card processors.

You think anyone really cares where the company is founded?

Where's the money is what matters.

CoinDesk has learned that BTC-e does not use a bank account with a company name, instead choosing to use a third party to provide banking services.

Depositors send money to UK company Mayzus Financial Services Ltd’s Deutsche Bank account in the Czech republic who use OKPAY, an e-currency provider to transfer users’ funds directly to the exchange.

Other than rumors , nothing Russian in it.
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