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legendary
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How many would you buy if the price leveled off at 800?  How many would you buy today?

Once we move to mBTC this won't matter.

Would you actually say to someone --->  how many would you buy today at $1.2 and how many would you buy if the price leveled off at .80 cents?

No, I doubt you would ask that question. Smiley
Is that indented to peg bitcoin to Feathercoin which trades at $ 1.13 at moment. so if bitcoin raises to 1.5 feathercoin should raise too
legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner
hero member
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Ultranode
Morning/evening all!! Grin

I am assuming everyone is fed up with champagne by now Wink

So, where is Walsoraj?  He lost our wager - his forfeit is to post a poem here - the subject being: why I'm a bad trader.

Are you there Walsoraj???  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The night is still young.

Oh, bless.
I'm sure a drop of about a thousand bucks is perfectly feasible...



Also, Gox decided to eliminate trading fees, which is CLEARLY propping the price up. Neither of us could have anticipated this at the time our bet was made. Not saying I am losing confidence that we crash below $100 by the end of the night. But if we don't, just saying I'd have a reasonable excuse.
legendary
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Dumb broad
Morning/evening all!! Grin

I am assuming everyone is fed up with champagne by now Wink

So, where is Walsoraj?  He lost our wager - his forfeit is to post a poem here - the subject being: why I'm a bad trader.

Are you there Walsoraj???  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The night is still young.

Oh, bless.
I'm sure a drop of about a thousand bucks is perfectly feasible...

hero member
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Ultranode
Morning/evening all!! Grin

I am assuming everyone is fed up with champagne by now Wink

So, where is Walsoraj?  He lost our wager - his forfeit is to post a poem here - the subject being: why I'm a bad trader.

Are you there Walsoraj???  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

The night is still young.
sr. member
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Blitz:The price affects the perception of the news
Once we move to mBTC this won't matter.

Would you actually say to someone --->  how many would you buy today at $1.2 and how many would you buy if the price leveled off at .80 cents?

No, I doubt you would ask that question. Smiley

Damn.  Leave it to someone smarter than me to destroy my logic. 

You, sir, are quite correct.
legendary
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Dumb broad
Morning/evening all!! Grin

I am assuming everyone is fed up with champagne by now Wink

So, where is Walsoraj?  He lost our wager - his forfeit is to post a poem here - the subject being: why I'm a bad trader.

Are you there Walsoraj???  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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How many would you buy if the price leveled off at 800?  How many would you buy today?

Once we move to mBTC this won't matter.

Would you actually say to someone --->  how many would you buy today at $1.2 and how many would you buy if the price leveled off at .80 cents?

No, I doubt you would ask that question. Smiley
sr. member
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Blitz:The price affects the perception of the news
How many would you buy if the price leveled off at 800?  How many would you buy today?
full member
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Even an 'unhealthy' correction (say down to 500) could be a good thing.  At that level many more people would/could buy in.  And, since we know that it has been to 1220 once, it is likely to go there again.

Not that I know anything... but I'd think $800/$850 support would be very strong (assuming there even was a "major" dip).

Of course, "never say never" in Bitcoin.  

Like there's no buying in these prices? How many millions USD worth of coins bought today? $HITLOAD Grin
sr. member
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Blitz:The price affects the perception of the news
Okay.  It's after 1600 on the west coast of USA.  Time for you bears to get it going.  Sell.  Sell now.  The world may end soon if you don't sell.
sr. member
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Blitz:The price affects the perception of the news
Sorry.  Wasn't arguing with you.  I looked for like a minute and saw the same small trades that I see on gox.
sr. member
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There are literally 10,000s of bots trades on their everyday at minute quantities.

I just took a quick peek but it looks similar to the bot trades at gox.

Well, either EVERYONE at BTC-e plays with small hands or those are bots at a level much greater than Gox. I mean, at gox you see medium and large size trades all the time. Btc-e it just doesnt happen. Stamp you see medium and large size trades. At btc-e it doesnt happen. Look at the bid ask sum. Its none existent on both sides. There is almost no liquidity there. Although the overalll volume suggests that it is a healthy market.

You can move a helluva lot more LTC - theres liquidity in that market. But BTC, there is no liquidity. In fact, I would argue there is just as much or more liquidity at Bitfinex, even when it can't trade with Bitstamp.

As soon as Gox starts big movement, things change in Btc-e: alts are dropped and BTC gets more liquid.
legendary
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There are literally 10,000s of bots trades on their everyday at minute quantities.

I just took a quick peek but it looks similar to the bot trades at gox.

Well, either EVERYONE at BTC-e plays with small hands or those are bots at a level much greater than Gox. I mean, at gox you see medium and large size trades all the time. Btc-e it just doesnt happen. Stamp you see medium and large size trades. At btc-e it doesnt happen. Look at the bid ask sum. Its none existent on both sides. There is almost no liquidity there. Although the overalll volume suggests that it is a healthy market.

You can move a helluva lot more LTC - theres liquidity in that market. But BTC, there is no liquidity. In fact, I would argue there is just as much or more liquidity at Bitfinex, even when it can't trade with Bitstamp.
legendary
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Confession - I went a little bit into fiat at 1215, so I am hoping for a bit of a correction.

Hey - it's no fees weekend, am I forgiven?

Honestly, I think you'll be lucky if we see triple digits again. I suspect a big 'crash' around 1500 but not sure it'll crash a third.

I am not looking for three figures - I just figure this weekend will go up and down like a yo-yo and I have buy-backs set in the upper to mid 1100s.

Just want more coins!

Thanks to people like you market sentiment is 1k+ and you're right.

Have to say, it's amazing how ew people realise it's about getting as many coins as possible rather than trying to make as much $ as possible. I think you have it spot on.

My new revision/prediction: anything below 10k is cheap.
The thing about 10k, is that it makes 100k reasonable.   

Bitcoinity is moving to mBTC soon. Hopefully $1 makes $100 seem reasonable.

If that is so - it is good news - we are ling in the 1000+ USD world, up with the gold price, it is not something that seems affordable for 95% of the planet, a $1 (ish) mBTC will make a real difference, 'hey you can buy 10 mBTC for a few bucks, dude' will bring way more people in.

Which is both inclusive and furthers our interests.
sr. member
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Blitz:The price affects the perception of the news
There are literally 10,000s of bots trades on their everyday at minute quantities.

I just took a quick peek but it looks similar to the bot trades at gox.
sr. member
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Ok guys - what's the REAL story with BTC-E??  I honestly haven't watched it closely until the last few days. But what is really going on there?  They show 80-90% of the volume of Gox and Stamp, but that's just bots. Its like 95% bots. And since they charge 2% in transactions fees, there is no way the owners of those bots could be paying those fees and still have any money left. So are the bots just set up to make it appear like there is volume, so as to give the exchange the appearance of legitimacy so that they can make their money with pumping and dumping the alt coins?

I mean, I am probably the farthest from a conspiracy theorists on this entire forum, but I cannot figure out any other reasonable answer to what is going on there.

I would love insight from someone who knows more than me on this matter. I am really curious to understand BTC-E and how they are really operating.

EDIT: and I am not suggesting the owners of the exchange pump and dump. However, if the volume of the BTC exchange is manipulated, then since the alt coin prices are measured against the BTC price, it makes the alt coin prices look more legitimate. Then more money can be attracted to the exchange in the alt coin markets.

It's 0.2% fees, not 2%.

You trade on there. What is your opinion about what I am saying/seeing?

Firstly, I do not trade that much. That said, I like to trade there because everything happens 5 or 10 seconds after it happens on Gox. If there is no big movement on Gox (or the current leading exchange), the guys and bots at btc-e are just happy trailing and alt-trading.

Another thing I am starting to like more and more is the fact that in Gox you're trying to predict whales. That's very hard and almost always sudden. It seems to me like trying to predict bot behaviour (positions are more clearly seen on the charts) in a trailing exchange is a LOT easier. But idk, that just might be how my mind works.

What I do now for sure, is that I've been far more successful trading at Btc-e than at Gox.

EDIT: forgot to say, bots in btc-e force constant minor movements, which don't really happen at stagnation in other exchanges. Most of my positions are played that way, get in and out quickly.
legendary
Activity: 2156
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Confession - I went a little bit into fiat at 1215, so I am hoping for a bit of a correction.

Hey - it's no fees weekend, am I forgiven?

Honestly, I think you'll be lucky if we see triple digits again. I suspect a big 'crash' around 1500 but not sure it'll crash a third.

I am not looking for three figures - I just figure this weekend will go up and down like a yo-yo and I have buy-backs set in the upper to mid 1100s.

Just want more coins!

Thanks to people like you market sentiment is 1k+ and you're right.

Have to say, it's amazing how ew people realise it's about getting as many coins as possible rather than trying to make as much $ as possible. I think you have it spot on.

My new revision/prediction: anything below 10k is cheap.
The thing about 10k, is that it makes 100k reasonable.   

Bitcoinity is moving to mBTC soon. Hopefully $1 makes $100 seem reasonable.
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259
Confession - I went a little bit into fiat at 1215, so I am hoping for a bit of a correction.

Hey - it's no fees weekend, am I forgiven?

Honestly, I think you'll be lucky if we see triple digits again. I suspect a big 'crash' around 1500 but not sure it'll crash a third.

I am not looking for three figures - I just figure this weekend will go up and down like a yo-yo and I have buy-backs set in the upper to mid 1100s.

Just want more coins!

Thanks to people like you market sentiment is 1k+ and you're right.

Have to say, it's amazing how ew people realise it's about getting as many coins as possible rather than trying to make as much $ as possible. I think you have it spot on.

My new revision/prediction: anything below 10k is cheap.
The thing about 10k, is that it makes 100k reasonable.   
legendary
Activity: 2016
Merit: 1259

No need to confess. In the heart of every bull they know deeply this is highly overvalued. You just have the balls to admit it.

You're Crazy :p
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