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It's funny. I've been one of the biggest bulls on here the last few weeks.  Now, I look at the poll in this thread and see over 90% bulls.

Am I really one of the few that is feeling a little bearish right now?  

I agree, if we flatline for a few weeks, I will expect an explosion right before heading into the new year.

But I must admit, I don't have full confidence this market doesn't want to try another sell off in the next few days or this coming weekend.

I just can't imagine that we are going to have a better bitcoin news month than the last month for at least a while. I mean Bitcoin was everywhere. But soon Christmas is going to be everywhere. And people are not as likely to hassel about investments going into the holidays.

Of course, maybe the sellers are happy just holding now. Letting the buyers catch their breath before we head north again. But, to me, it kinda feels like this rally might be over.

Please disclose your position.   My guess is that you sold, and you are now talking bearishly because you are wanting to buy back lower.   There is no indication that we will crash from here.   People that heard about bitcoin through the media of the last month are only now starting to be fully verified and able to get money in.   There may be more sell offs, though I would imagine that a lot of those who really wanted to cash out have done so.   This "bubble" is quite different than the last ones.   These last two sell offs were great for cooling the market off.   We needed the train to slow, or we would be headed for serious trouble.   The more new money that is parked in bids rather than panic market buying, the better off we are.

My position is hold. In fact I'm currently investing a little addition fiat in alt currencies as high risk speculation. But as for BTC, I'm a long term hold.

PLEASE read my post history. I have been a huge bull.

But my gut instincts say we may not be going to new highs this time. We will see soon enough.

whether we see new highs or not is incumbent on news and development of BTC, which no one can accurately predict. if nothing big happens in the upcoming weeks, some holders might decide to let go.
legendary
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It's funny. I've been one of the biggest bulls on here the last few weeks.  Now, I look at the poll in this thread and see over 90% bulls.

Am I really one of the few that is feeling a little bearish right now?  

I agree, if we flatline for a few weeks, I will expect an explosion right before heading into the new year.

But I must admit, I don't have full confidence this market doesn't want to try another sell off in the next few days or this coming weekend.

I just can't imagine that we are going to have a better bitcoin news month than the last month for at least a while. I mean Bitcoin was everywhere. But soon Christmas is going to be everywhere. And people are not as likely to hassel about investments going into the holidays.

Of course, maybe the sellers are happy just holding now. Letting the buyers catch their breath before we head north again. But, to me, it kinda feels like this rally might be over.

Please disclose your position.   My guess is that you sold, and you are now talking bearishly because you are wanting to buy back lower.   There is no indication that we will crash from here.   People that heard about bitcoin through the media of the last month are only now starting to be fully verified and able to get money in.   There may be more sell offs, though I would imagine that a lot of those who really wanted to cash out have done so.   This "bubble" is quite different than the last ones.   These last two sell offs were great for cooling the market off.   We needed the train to slow, or we would be headed for serious trouble.   The more new money that is parked in bids rather than panic market buying, the better off we are.

My position is hold. In fact I'm currently investing a little addition fiat in alt currencies as high risk speculation. But as for BTC, I'm a long term hold.

PLEASE read my post history. I have been a huge bull.

But my gut instincts say we may not be going to new highs this time. We will see soon enough.
sr. member
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It's funny. I've been one of the biggest bulls on here the last few weeks.  Now, I look at the poll in this thread and see over 90% bulls.

Am I really one of the few that is feeling a little bearish right now?  

I agree, if we flatline for a few weeks, I will expect an explosion right before heading into the new year.

But I must admit, I don't have full confidence this market doesn't want to try another sell off in the next few days or this coming weekend.

I just can't imagine that we are going to have a better bitcoin news month than the last month for at least a while. I mean Bitcoin was everywhere. But soon Christmas is going to be everywhere. And people are not as likely to hassel about investments going into the holidays.

Of course, maybe the sellers are happy just holding now. Letting the buyers catch their breath before we head north again. But, to me, it kinda feels like this rally might be over.

Please disclose your position.   My guess is that you sold, and you are now talking bearishly because you are wanting to buy back lower.   There is no indication that we will crash from here.   People that heard about bitcoin through the media of the last month are only now starting to be fully verified and able to get money in.   There may be more sell offs, though I would imagine that a lot of those who really wanted to cash out have done so.   This "bubble" is quite different than the last ones.   These last two sell offs were great for cooling the market off.   We needed the train to slow, or we would be headed for serious trouble.   The more new money that is parked in bids rather than panic market buying, the better off we are.

it's true.. i think last month, coinbase saw a 15% increase in its user base.. and /r/bitcoin on reddit is now the site's 50th most active subreddit. so many people post now compared to a few months ago that i'm just unable to keep with the developments there (well, okay, i post mainly here because of sig ads  Grin)

 i don't think we're quite mainstream yet, but we just took a pretty damn huge leap in that direction.
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It's funny. I've been one of the biggest bulls on here the last few weeks.  Now, I look at the poll in this thread and see over 90% bulls.

Am I really one of the few that is feeling a little bearish right now?  

I agree, if we flatline for a few weeks, I will expect an explosion right before heading into the new year.

But I must admit, I don't have full confidence this market doesn't want to try another sell off in the next few days or this coming weekend.

I just can't imagine that we are going to have a better bitcoin news month than the last month for at least a while. I mean Bitcoin was everywhere. But soon Christmas is going to be everywhere. And people are not as likely to hassel about investments going into the holidays.

Of course, maybe the sellers are happy just holding now. Letting the buyers catch their breath before we head north again. But, to me, it kinda feels like this rally might be over.

Please disclose your position.   My guess is that you sold, and you are now talking bearishly because you are wanting to buy back lower.   There is no indication that we will crash from here.   People that heard about bitcoin through the media of the last month are only now starting to be fully verified and able to get money in.   There may be more sell offs, though I would imagine that a lot of those who really wanted to cash out have done so.   This "bubble" is quite different than the last ones.   These last two sell offs were great for cooling the market off.   We needed the train to slow, or we would be headed for serious trouble.   The more new money that is parked in bids rather than panic market buying, the better off we are.
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot

wonder if he still has the 1337 ltc i gave him.

gold
legendary
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yes
All kinds of indicators are bottoming while the price stays steady. I would say we are winding up a coil as never seen before, but it also scares me. What if price suddenly falls through....

Half cash  Roll Eyes
legendary
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫

wonder if he still has the 1337 ltc i gave him.

Of all people to get a huge Litecoin handout, it's Luke-jr...


i thought it was funny:)      he was a huge ltc hater and now has like $40,000 worth of LTC, hahahhahahaha

It is kind of a conundrum. He can't win: if he destroys the private key, he's shrunk the money supply and increased the value of the other LTC in circulation. If he sells them he's hypocritical. If he sits on them he's a major LTC holder  Cheesy

Why'd he even have an address in the first place?
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If your tx doesn't get to a miner it will never be included in a block.

I saw it here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344405.100

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What specifically happens if you send a transaction without fees blah blah blah?
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It is a very high probability it will simply be dropped (deleted) by all of your peers and nobody on the network will even know about it.


Also:
http://eligius.st/~gateway/faq/following-applies-transactions-being-processed-our-blocks

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Will include transactions in its blocks if the sender pays a fee of at least 0.1 TBC (0.00004096 BTC) per 512 bytes.

Is Luke-jr still pushing TBC? Wow.

He must be stinking rich though, he can do whatever he likes these days.


yeah thats crazy. he told me about that one day on irc...


wonder if he still has the 1337 ltc i gave him.

Of all people to get a huge Litecoin handout, it's Luke-jr...
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The low volume might indicate another correction to one of the day emas, perhaps the long one where the choo choo mofo trendline is. There was one of these double corrections to the long ema in March in the 30s. Although the bid depth is looking impressive so I'm not sure. I would prefer not because the last one scared the shit out of me and I lost a couple coins.
sr. member
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
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If your tx doesn't get to a miner it will never be included in a block.

I saw it here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344405.100

Quote
What specifically happens if you send a transaction without fees blah blah blah?
Quote
It is a very high probability it will simply be dropped (deleted) by all of your peers and nobody on the network will even know about it.


Also:
http://eligius.st/~gateway/faq/following-applies-transactions-being-processed-our-blocks

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Will include transactions in its blocks if the sender pays a fee of at least 0.1 TBC (0.00004096 BTC) per 512 bytes.

Is Luke-jr still pushing TBC? Wow.

He must be stinking rich though, he can do whatever he likes these days.
sr. member
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i can't believe how stable it's been today.. for the most part, it's been $1,077 at bitstamp.. give or a take a few dollars.
legendary
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If your tx doesn't get to a miner it will never be included in a block.

I saw it here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=344405.100

Quote
What specifically happens if you send a transaction without fees blah blah blah?
Quote
It is a very high probability it will simply be dropped (deleted) by all of your peers and nobody on the network will even know about it.


Also:
http://eligius.st/~gateway/faq/following-applies-transactions-being-processed-our-blocks

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Will include transactions in its blocks if the sender pays a fee of at least 0.1 TBC (0.00004096 BTC) per 512 bytes.
legendary
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I think buying pressure, relative to selling pressure, will continue pushing this baby north over the next several weeks, though maybe at a bit of a decreased pace (with more deep-ish corrections, etc.).     Cheesy

We may have some more consolidation now.
legendary
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sr. member
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♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
Is the issue that the bitcoin-qt clients simply do not propagate anything below the "minimum" fee, so the miners don't even get to decide whether to include them in blocks? If there are any threads about this I'd be curious to read them.

I've made several zero fee transactions. Am I missing something?

Yeah, that's because your tx met 3 conditions:

1) smaller than 10,000 bytes
2) All outputs were 0.01 BTC or larger
3) Its priority was large enough (priority = sum(input_value_in_base_units * input_age)/size_in_bytes)

This is basically because you have old coins.

If my transaction were to not meet all these conditions, and I made the transfer without a fee, would it ever get processed?

If you issue a non-standard transaction then most network nodes won't relay it. If it manages to work its way through nodes that rebroadcast non-standard tx to a miner that includes non-standard transactions in their blocks, then it might get processed.

If you add Eligius to your node list manually that will pretty much guarantee it gets processed whenever Eligius mines a block.

I'm not really an expert, though, so maybe there's something more to this.
legendary
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Is the issue that the bitcoin-qt clients simply do not propagate anything below the "minimum" fee, so the miners don't even get to decide whether to include them in blocks? If there are any threads about this I'd be curious to read them.

I've made several zero fee transactions. Am I missing something?

Yeah, that's because your tx met 3 conditions:

1) smaller than 10,000 bytes
2) All outputs were 0.01 BTC or larger
3) Its priority was large enough (priority = sum(input_value_in_base_units * input_age)/size_in_bytes)

This is basically because you have old coins.

If my transaction were to not meet all these conditions, and I made the transfer without a fee, would it ever get processed?
sr. member
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Merit: 250
♫ the AM bear who cares ♫
It's funny. I've been one of the biggest bulls on here the last few weeks.  Now, I look at the poll in this thread and see over 90% bulls.

Am I really one of the few that is feeling a little bearish right now?  

I agree, if we flatline for a few weeks, I will expect an explosion right before heading into the new year.

But I must admit, I don't have full confidence this market doesn't want to try another sell off in the next few days or this coming weekend.

I just can't imagine that we are going to have a better bitcoin news month than the last month for at least a while. I mean Bitcoin was everywhere. But soon Christmas is going to be everywhere. And people are not as likely to hassel about investments going into the holidays.

Of course, maybe the sellers are happy just holding now. Letting the buyers catch their breath before we head north again. But, to me, it kinda feels like this rally might be over.

The people that wanted out are out, I think. There's no reason they would have kept holding... the past few days would have been very scary to a weak hand.

The rally could be over - although that's too early to call - but the bear case isn't very strong, IMO.
legendary
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It's funny. I've been one of the biggest bulls on here the last few weeks.  Now, I look at the poll in this thread and see over 90% bulls.

Am I really one of the few that is feeling a little bearish right now?  

I agree, if we flatline for a few weeks, I will expect an explosion right before heading into the new year.

But I must admit, I don't have full confidence this market doesn't want to try another sell off in the next few days or this coming weekend.

I just can't imagine that we are going to have a better bitcoin news month than the last month for at least a while. I mean Bitcoin was everywhere. But soon Christmas is going to be everywhere. And people are not as likely to hassel about investments going into the holidays.

Of course, maybe the sellers are happy just holding now. Letting the buyers catch their breath before we head north again. But, to me, it kinda feels like this rally might be over.
sr. member
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Mils have been used in several countries for thousandths of a currency unit



Really thinking Mils will be the "spoken word" term.   It is the shortest that includes reference to the unit.


You could just call them bits or bai.
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