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legendary
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Chewing on that wall, we all know that will be slowly eroded until it collapses. Where is the right spot to buy? The next wall if forming at 85...

It's not where, but when. Wherever the price is at around 8 PM Eastern time on Monday... that's the price to buy at.

why? The bid volume is much greater than the ask volume and that haven't stopping the price from slowly droping? Why would it suddenly go up on monday.

This is a long weekend in Japan, from Friday to Monday. The next working day there is Tuesday, so the Japanese banks will be closed until then. That means there cannot be any new fiat (dollars, euros, yen) going into MtGox for another three days. Now, there could be money sitting in MtGox but not on the order books... just like there could be BTC there and not on the books. We don't know how much of each there is. But we do know that for the next three days BTC can move in and out of Gox easily, fiat can't. That puts downward pressure on the price, until the banks open Tuesday morning and people start seeing their deposits going through.

if the price is 103 on monday you're still buying right?
legendary
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Chewing on that wall, we all know that will be slowly eroded until it collapses. Where is the right spot to buy? The next wall if forming at 85...

It's not where, but when. Wherever the price is at around 8 PM Eastern time on Monday... that's the price to buy at.

why? The bid volume is much greater than the ask volume and that haven't stopping the price from slowly droping? Why would it suddenly go up on monday.

This is a long weekend in Japan, from Friday to Monday. The next working day there is Tuesday, so the Japanese banks will be closed until then. That means there cannot be any new fiat (dollars, euros, yen) going into MtGox for another three days. Now, there could be money sitting in MtGox but not on the order books... just like there could be BTC there and not on the books. We don't know how much of each there is. But we do know that for the next three days BTC can move in and out of Gox easily, fiat can't. That puts downward pressure on the price, until the banks open Tuesday morning and people start seeing their deposits going through.
hero member
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So long as there are entities with 10k+ btc it seems risky to me to be holding btc for any significant length of time during the start of a downtrend.

Agreed ... thats why I prefer to take a small loss and walk away than to sit with a position that was intended to be short term and did not pan out
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Chewing on that wall, we all know that will be slowly eroded until it collapses. Where is the right spot to buy? The next wall if forming at 85...

It's not where, but when. Wherever the price is at around 8 PM Eastern time on Monday... that's the price to buy at.

why? The bid volume is much greater than the ask volume and that haven't stopping the price from slowly droping? Why would it suddenly go up on monday.
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Yes, but those very whales have been taking recent weekends off. On the other hand, if this is really the biggest and baddest capitulation of 2012, 2013 and probably all of 2014, then yes we could crash big this evening or this weekend.

Because I plan only one set of relatively low risk and highly profitable (should events unfold as planned) round-trip trades per capitulation, I really don't have to pay attention to the embedded day trading opportunities.



Well, things seem to be going exactly as you've been saying for the last few weeks, so you'll probably take much more profit than I will. But as we saw when someone placed a $2.1M market order to drive the price from $220-240, whales are capable of acting just as irrationally and unpredictably as anyone else. So long as there are entities with 10k+ btc it seems risky to me to be holding btc for any significant length of time during the start of a downtrend. But, I'm probably just rationalizing for the fact that my biggest weakness is that I can't sit still.

Thanks for posting, btw. You've been very helpful.
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ratio: 92.03 USD/BTC | ask: 91.48998 bid: 91.48801

The ratio for USD now over the ask price!
legendary
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Chewing on that wall, we all know that will be slowly eroded until it collapses. Where is the right spot to buy? The next wall if forming at 85...

It's not where, but when. Wherever the price is at around 8 PM Eastern time on Monday... that's the price to buy at.
hero member
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everyone sold off b4 the weekend, now they wait for lower prices

this.

Yet there is still little play downwards with very low volume going on.
I bet someone bought back in at 92-93 and now is shitting himself again. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Also everyone's fiat is still in the exchanges.
Expect rally on Sunday morning and subsequent dumps in few hours.
It will be a slaughtering game. The lucky ones will get more fiat for next round. Others will bleed. Wash, rinse, repeat.

lol
I bought a small amount around there 2 hours ago and just got rid of them for a small loss ... more through boredom than fear  Wink
Now time for some TV ...
Cash is safe for another day

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Chewing on that wall, we all know that will be slowly eroded until it collapses. Where is the right spot to buy? The next wall if forming at 85...
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The fact that Mt.Gox keeps lagging up to 50 seconds just by a single person doing fake mini trades is sort of hilarious in a very very sad way. Big investors must question themselves why they trust that website with anything...I can actually understand the dropping prices with all the shitty news these past 4 days. Sad

which is why seeing coinlab sue such a trainwreck of an exchange is so laughable.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1dmb4e/iaal_why_the_coinlab_v_mt_gox_lawsuit_is_hohum/
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The fact that Mt.Gox keeps lagging up to 50 seconds just by a single person doing fake mini trades is sort of hilarious in a very very sad way. Big investors must question themselves why they trust that website with anything...I can actually understand the dropping prices with all the shitty news these past 4 days. Sad

which is why seeing coinlab sue such a trainwreck of an exchange is so laughable.
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The fact that Mt.Gox keeps lagging up to 50 seconds just by a single person doing fake mini trades is sort of hilarious in a very very sad way. Big investors must question themselves why they trust that website with anything...I can actually understand the dropping prices with all the shitty news these past 4 days. Sad
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It seems the buywall at 90 gonna get tested.
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What happened to the 97 wall?

lol it got killed

Ye Ye, quick, buy a coin who's value is directly tied to bitcoin.
hero member
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everyone sold off b4 the weekend, now they wait for lower prices

this.

Yet there is still little play downwards with very low volume going on.
I bet someone bought back in at 92-93 and now is shitting himself again. Wash, rinse, repeat.

Also everyone's fiat is still in the exchanges.
Expect rally on Sunday morning and subsequent dumps in few hours.
It will be a slaughtering game. The lucky ones will get more fiat for next round. Others will bleed. Wash, rinse, repeat.
hero member
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Stephen Reed
It is getting quiet in my home office - no Clark Moody ding-ding-O-meter chattering away.

Despite the calm, I don't envy big money and their advisors that are holding maybe 25% losses in just three days, with a potential goxlag-blinded Black Monday sell off. That unfortunate group knows that the first one to sell gets the tastiest bids and the last one to sell books the biggest client loss. They cannot sell during the weekend without huge slippage.
 

That's why I immediately sold what I'd bought in the $80s when we went back over $90. One single whale dump will be enough to get things rolling downwards again.

Yes, but those very whales have been taking recent weekends off. On the other hand, if this is really the biggest and baddest capitulation of 2012, 2013 and probably all of 2014, then yes we could crash big this evening or this weekend.

Because I plan only one set of relatively low risk and highly profitable (should events unfold as planned) round-trip trades per capitulation, I really don't have to pay attention to the embedded day trading opportunities.
legendary
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What happened to the 97 wall?

lol it got killed

its over bitcoin is dieing, qulickly sell all your BTC and buy Feathercoins!
legendary
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What happened to the 97 wall?
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