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legendary
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I don't see what are the fees  Embarrassed

Edit: And I don't know how to send bitcoins to my phone number  Undecided
There's not a lot of info on their website is - and I can't find any discussion on here about it either.  Have they just come out of the blue?  I sent an SMS to 'signup' about half an hour ago and am awaiting confirmation.  I think the main thing I'd like to know is whether the users' in-the-cloud wallets are accessible by the company or whether they're more like blockchain.info's only accessible by the user.  Not wanting to be a wet blanket but if the former then everybody signing up ought to familiarise themselves with the mybitcoin history!

I don't see how it could be the latter.  You are sending them an sms, they have no way to access a private key on your device.

This is what I'm finding confusing.  Going by the limited information on the site alone it says: To make a transaction simply text your request. ex. "send '555-phon' 10 for beer".

Please bear in mind I may have got this totally wrong because I am not a techie.  But my understanding of that is that you're sending your payment SMS to the service provider not the recipient - in which case isn't it just an on-line wallet service with SMS instruction for payments and SMS notification of receipts?  If so then the private keys of the wallets associated with the phone numbers surely have to be kept on the service provider's side.  In which case, my question is: Are they only accessible via instruction from the phone or does the service provider also have access to them.  Unlike Blockchain.info wallets where the encryption/decryption can be done on the client side I can't see how that could be handled by an sms-only phone.

I'm not saying the service provider is untrustworthy but if my understanding is correct one essential aspect of Bitcoins - i.e. not needing a bank - is absent.  Maybe paywithbits.com is more trustworthy than Barclays or Mpesa?  I don't know but it's a big step away from what in Bitcoin world we're used to and I'm reservedly excited about this as something I'd like to see go viral in developing nations until I understand more.

The no bank aspect isn't what will win the masses.  As long as they are competent with security, I don't see a problem unless they aren't upfront about their real identities.  The need to be a registered business with the proper licenses.  Bitcoin is great for those of use who know how to secure it ourselves, but the average person is scared they will get hacked and lose it all.
hero member
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I don't see what are the fees  Embarrassed

Edit: And I don't know how to send bitcoins to my phone number  Undecided
There's not a lot of info on their website is - and I can't find any discussion on here about it either.  Have they just come out of the blue?  I sent an SMS to 'signup' about half an hour ago and am awaiting confirmation.  I think the main thing I'd like to know is whether the users' in-the-cloud wallets are accessible by the company or whether they're more like blockchain.info's only accessible by the user.  Not wanting to be a wet blanket but if the former then everybody signing up ought to familiarise themselves with the mybitcoin history!

I don't see how it could be the latter.  You are sending them an sms, they have no way to access a private key on your device.

This is what I'm finding confusing.  Going by the limited information on the site alone it says: To make a transaction simply text your request. ex. "send '555-phon' 10 for beer".

Please bear in mind I may have got this totally wrong because I am not a techie.  But my understanding of that is that you're sending your payment SMS to the service provider not the recipient - in which case isn't it just an on-line wallet service with SMS instruction for payments and SMS notification of receipts?  If so then the private keys of the wallets associated with the phone numbers surely have to be kept on the service provider's side.  In which case, my question is: Are they only accessible via instruction from the phone or does the service provider also have access to them.  Unlike Blockchain.info wallets where the encryption/decryption can be done on the client side I can't see how that could be handled by an sms-only phone.

I'm not saying the service provider is untrustworthy but if my understanding is correct one essential aspect of Bitcoins - i.e. not needing a bank - is absent.  Maybe paywithbits.com is more trustworthy than Barclays or Mpesa?  I don't know but it's a big step away from what in Bitcoin world we're used to and I'm reservedly excited about this as something I'd like to see go viral in developing nations until I understand more.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1002
I don't see what are the fees  Embarrassed

Edit: And I don't know how to send bitcoins to my phone number  Undecided
There's not a lot of info on their website is - and I can't find any discussion on here about it either.  Have they just come out of the blue?  I sent an SMS to 'signup' about half an hour ago and am awaiting confirmation.  I think the main thing I'd like to know is whether the users' in-the-cloud wallets are accessible by the company or whether they're more like blockchain.info's only accessible by the user.  Not wanting to be a wet blanket but if the former then everybody signing up ought to familiarise themselves with the mybitcoin history!

I don't see how it could be the latter.  You are sending them an sms, they have no way to access a private key on your device.
hero member
Activity: 784
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I don't see what are the fees  Embarrassed

Edit: And I don't know how to send bitcoins to my phone number  Undecided
There's not a lot of info on their website is - and I can't find any discussion on here about it either.  Have they just come out of the blue?  I sent an SMS to 'signup' about half an hour ago and am awaiting confirmation.  I think the main thing I'd like to know is whether the users' in-the-cloud wallets are accessible by the company or whether they're more like blockchain.info's only accessible by the user.  Not wanting to be a wet blanket but if the former then everybody signing up ought to familiarise themselves with the mybitcoin history!
sr. member
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I don't see what are the fees  Embarrassed

Edit: And I don't know how to send bitcoins to my phone number  Undecided
legendary
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Enabling the maximal migration
sr. member
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I have also bullish outlook but a bit different: Wednesday will be the strongest day like last week. The low-volume calm period has been very long now and this usually means strong moves. I'm pretty sure they'll point upwards. Not quite as bullish as rpietila, though. 0.14 on monday is possible, maybe tuesday. 0.16 on wednesday possible. 0.20? probably not this week.

So I've been carefully going long(er) this weekend, buying the dips. As long as $0.12 isn't breached I consider lower price like now a buying opportunity.

why are you quoting prices in mBTC ?

For the same reason we normally deal with gold in ounces or grams instead of kilos.


what are you talking about? no exchange prices gold in kilos. everywhere prices in ounces.

and every exchange prices bitcoins in 1 BTC

if you want to start a movement to quote merchant prices in mBTC, then obviously that is a good idea as the markets continue to move up. but it makes no sense to quote the exchange rate in anything other than its actual rate
full member
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I have also bullish outlook but a bit different: Wednesday will be the strongest day like last week. The low-volume calm period has been very long now and this usually means strong moves. I'm pretty sure they'll point upwards. Not quite as bullish as rpietila, though. 0.14 on monday is possible, maybe tuesday. 0.16 on wednesday possible. 0.20? probably not this week.

So I've been carefully going long(er) this weekend, buying the dips. As long as $0.12 isn't breached I consider lower price like now a buying opportunity.

why are you quoting prices in mBTC ?

For the same reason we normally deal with gold in ounces or grams instead of kilos.
sr. member
Activity: 252
Merit: 250
I have also bullish outlook but a bit different: Wednesday will be the strongest day like last week. The low-volume calm period has been very long now and this usually means strong moves. I'm pretty sure they'll point upwards. Not quite as bullish as rpietila, though. 0.14 on monday is possible, maybe tuesday. 0.16 on wednesday possible. 0.20? probably not this week.

So I've been carefully going long(er) this weekend, buying the dips. As long as $0.12 isn't breached I consider lower price like now a buying opportunity.

why are you quoting prices in mBTC ?
legendary
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Merit: 1491
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
I am very bullish on the next week. It is possible that $200 will be breached. Every time bitcoin starts to rise in a serious way, the supply side just dries up, leading to an overextension and then retracement. Monday can easily see $160 but I don't think the post-crash high will be taken until Tuesday.

If anyone has coins to sell directly for bank wire, I am happy to buy them at current rate - 3% as my margin. Or I can buy goxmoney (seller buys coins, sends them to me, I bank wire). PM soon, it's late here Wink

Or I can write puts for $120! Best of both worlds for you who don't want to sell and don't want to risk the downside!

So am I.

The release of BITCOINATM will be a media whore for at least a week.

Bullish in my view.
legendary
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you just come across as a very immature child

 Huh
legendary
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Duelbits.com
come to daddy..
Cheesy
That was a quick $5 drop ...

Was that due to the last 5 posts here? Cheesy

rpietila panicked Smiley

maybe he's finalizing a large deal and mtgoxUSD is basis, so he's pushing it down to get a better price. (or someone else for that matter)

Yeah, probably some supernode deal  Tongue
legendary
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come to daddy..
Cheesy
That was a quick $5 drop ...

Was that due to the last 5 posts here? Cheesy

rpietila panicked Smiley
Cheesy
Did sound to me a lot like his posting was an attempt to prop up the market with words more than money

Well he's in good company.
But we now know that he bought at least 13 bitcoins.  Cheesy

No proof in blockchain. :-)
newbie
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come to daddy..
Cheesy
That was a quick $5 drop ...

Was that due to the last 5 posts here? Cheesy

If we get $5 drop because of a few posts then people don't believe that BTC is backed by anything. But are nothing else than a way to earn quick cash... and loosing them twice as fast!

Buckle up boys and girls, check your gear and strap your helmets on  Grin
donator
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come to daddy..
Cheesy
That was a quick $5 drop ...

Was that due to the last 5 posts here? Cheesy

rpietila panicked Smiley

maybe he's finalizing a large deal and mtgoxUSD is basis, so he's pushing it down to get a better price. (or someone else for that matter)
donator
Activity: 2772
Merit: 1019
I am very bullish on the next week. It is possible that $200 will be breached. Every time bitcoin starts to rise in a serious way, the supply side just dries up, leading to an overextension and then retracement. Monday can easily see $160 but I don't think the post-crash high will be taken until Tuesday.

I have also bullish outlook but a bit different: Wednesday will be the strongest day like last week. The low-volume calm period has been very long now and this usually means strong moves. I'm pretty sure they'll point upwards. Not quite as bullish as rpietila, though. 0.14 on monday is possible, maybe tuesday. 0.16 on wednesday possible. 0.20? probably not this week.

So I've been carefully going long(er) this weekend, buying the dips. As long as $0.12 isn't breached I consider lower price like now a buying opportunity.
legendary
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Marketing manager - GO MP
come to daddy..
Cheesy
That was a quick $5 drop ...

Was that due to the last 5 posts here? Cheesy

rpietila panicked Smiley
Cheesy
Did sound to me a lot like his posting was an attempt to prop up the market with words more than money

Well he's in good company.
But we now know that he bought at least 13 bitcoins.  Cheesy
legendary
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Duelbits.com
legendary
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