Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 4257. (Read 26714907 times)

Saw I great interview (in English, except for the short intro) the other day with a lot of (anthropological) wisdom, I feel I can plug it because it also has an interesting part about money: https://www.npostart.nl/vpro-wintergasten/27-12-2021/VPWON_1330342

I hope y'all have a great party tomorrow and thank you for everything!

Good evening WO,

Seeing sub 47K.. Damn, all of us (except Proudhon) didn't expect these (low) BTC levels for this period..

Anyway hope all fine the the WO family. I got covid (omicron) 1 week ago, just right when I came back to my home country to spend Christmas with my whole family.. #perfectTiming  

Really Really tired for the whole week (like sleeping 15-16Hours day and felt not rested). Starting getting bit less tired since yesterday, no other symptom.

Fucking covid never ends. Take care alls.

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I swear, that video has fucked up my life today. I'm going through doors thinking "there is a more efficient way".

Because that guy's way IS more efficient. UG! All those wasted years!

The cause: product placement and trying to reach the widest audience using the lowest common denominator: ethnicity.
However, when it does not happen, remember all complains about the Golden Globes.
In short-we get what the populace as a whole deserves.

In partial defense of this: in alien movies they always say a first couple of phrases in their "native" tongue before switching to perfect (or accented) English.
People accept this suspension of disbelief because it is easier this way.
Similarly, it is easier for them to provide politically correct casting than to be subjected to possible lawsuits later on.

EDIT: a funny thing about Expanse...star ship engines keep making roaring sounds in the vacuum of space...and, strangely enough, it feels right when you watch it, but complete bs, of course.

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In the olden days the garbage had to be at least good enough to convince you to fork over $50 for popcorn in a movie theater. Now they don't even need to worry about that, as long as they get your credit card number and continue to charge you every month for whatever shitty streaming service (seriously, what's with all the pluses, Disney+, Paramount+, Apple TV+) they can sign you up for.

Please bro, don’t tell me it’s bad…. I was really picking a date to start and enjoying it… Have seen we got a similar taste….. Hoping you are wrong.

Hating feminist stuff as well @torque just like I hate all political society Mirror BS…

What if a black guy, Chinese, Arab or woman plays Bond for example…. Just not working… or the Rock LoL…

Same as a white guy doesn’t need to play Muhammed Ali or whatever….

But nowadays when I see movies I almost cry.


Like when a team of six always got a gay couple mixed origine preferred, a white guy, colored guy, Arab and Chinese or something lol (or woman from different origines)

Just WTF is wrong with movies and political BS….

I am dumbfounded at the fact they can literally get worse with every single piece of garbage they kick out.

This shit is so bad I cannot even mute it and suffer through just to see a few cool visuals.

Totally agree!  

On the other hand, amazingly, he is saying something that actually has some basis in reality.

Szabo should return the favor by calling him out as an idiot about Doge.

PS.  One of my proudest moments in twanker:

Whoever it is, I wish them happy retirement, well deserved.

Observing BTC struggling……

Meanwhile, hope this makes a few of you smile

Explanation

I am not sure if I have ever met anyone as full of shit as you.  #justsaying.

You really come off as quite disingenuous sometimes, and maybe worse sometimes than others.  You points above might be one of the times of your great disingenuine moments.. even though you have had several similar nonsense moments.. so maybe it is not fair for me to rate your ongoing bullshit points..

Think about it.

You are trying to attribute some kind of lame argument to me about bitcoin being on a schedule, and I have been battling against those kinds of ideas for more than a year.... probably several years. probably since near the beginning of my forum membership (or at some point that I figured out that honey badger no care).

Of course, I do appreciate the 4-year fractal, but even my appreciation for that idea (that way of overlaying BTC prices) does not cause me to argue that bitcoin is on any kind of an exact schedule, or that BTC's price performance has to conform to the various time parameters contained therein.. so in that regard, let's say hypothetically, if it were to take 5 years for a 4-year fractal to play out, that would not necessarily break any of my conceptions of the benefits of considering the 4-year fractal that happened to take 5 years.  Sure maybe at some point we might have to start calling it something else?  The 6 year fractal that used to take 4 years, or the lengthening of the cycle, but until the data is in to come to those various reframings, there seems to be no justification to give up on the knowledge or the guidance that the earlier models seem to provide, especially if they had not yet been invalidated.. as you like to get so excited in trying to assert so much nonsense because you seem to prefer to tethered to nothingness or chaos in order that you can spout out your own fantasy detached from reality framings (if we are so charitable as to acknowledge some of your nonsense as such).


Why would I give any shits on any kind of personal level.  Yes, I have asserted that S2F is amongst the best of models, and S2F is even better if it is coupled (or would we say complemented?) with the 4-year fractal (yes redundancy) and exponential s-curve adoption based on network effects and Metcalfe principles.

You can proclaim that it is broken until you are blue in the face, and you are just showing either your own purposeful ignorance regarding what it is or your ongoing disingenuineness in terms of spouting out nonsense.



I am more receptive to any virus-related discussions that at least attempt to tie it to bitcoin issues.. and surely bitcoin issues are widespread, but if the post is not at least attempting to tie the virus discussion to bitcoin then it becomes harder to see it as relevant..

Regarding the name calling, sure it can be irritating if the name calling seems to be the ONLY purpose, but I would not consider the namecalling matter to be as problematic so long as it is weaved into substantive discussions, so in that regard, sometimes a bit of name calling can be helpful for emphasis... and especially pointing out when some posters seem to NOT be presenting issues in fair or accurate ways... and some folks seem to NOT even be trying, sometimes.

I am not going to proclaim to be above some of the gratuitous fun.. so even some of the most professional forum members do sometimes engage in a bit of childish behaviors.. not going to name any names, even though I do have some members in mind (besides myself).   



Seems to me that the place has improved over the years, and it seems to me that we have fewer notlambchop types..   Yeah, there are some notlambchop types, but the whole thread seems to have quite a bit better abilities to put out pretty decent bitcoin discussions, and even weaved through off-topic matters, but we surely seem to be suffering way less from shitcoin talking points and infiltration than a lot of other threads.. or forums.. ...

I do understand that there are quite a few folks on twitter who proclaim that if they are able to formulate a decently curated twitter following (or who they follow), then they are able to get some really good on-topic experiences through that, so I am not even proclaiming that there might be some ways to get more honed and better experiences, even though I feel this thread is pretty good.. and surely the virus is not a shitcoin, so it has way more relevance to this thread than any shitcoin discussion... so there is that, too.


Interestante!!!!!

Explanation

https://twitter.com/ericyakes/status/1476324724271566848?s=21

I would hardly consider that as any kind of meaningful level of debt, especially if their bitcoin holdings are currently worth more than $6 billion, and yeah if the BTC price cuts in half then their bitcoin is only going to be worth a bit more than their debt.  Bitcoin is not their only assets.  They seem to be in a pretty good place, but hey opinions may well vary and that's why not everyone values companies the same.. some invest and some do not, and 5-10 years may well help to sort some of this out in terms of whether MSTR's approach to its business, including it's choice to heavily (and even outrageously) invest into bitcoin ends up playing out as a profitable investment. 

Surely a large number of bitcoiners believe MSTR's aggressive (and even seemingly somewhat outrageous) BTC investment approach will prove to be quite powerful as the years play out and MSTR's status and position is likely going to outperform a lot of other businesses, especially the ones who have so far failed/refused to recognize the value of bitcoin.

Similar things can likely be said about a lot of us bitcoiners.  Some of us have taken more aggressive approaches in our BTC accumulation and BTC portfolio management, and some of us have been less aggressive.  Some of us have gained some advantages with the passage of time, even if we might not have been as aggressive as others, and surely even some folks who were somewhat aggressive, but have a way shorter timeframe of being in the BTC space have still ended up performing quite well due to some of their aggressiveness in their accumulation of bitcoin.

Sure even though I am using aggressiveness as a descriptor, I surely am not proclaiming that anyone would be engaging in gambling and especially not heavy gambling.. maybe some light gambling is o.k... but gotta be careful if taking too many chances and even engaging in margin-like plays when more simple and straight-forward accumulation techniques can also end up serving quite well.

Almost no matter what we do, unless we merely get lucky, seems like the vast majority of us bitcoiners have difficulties showing any kinds of stupendous BTC performance levels in our own portfolio based on short periods of time, such as less than 1 cycle, but with the greater passage of time, it seems that time is our friend, and one or two cycles ends up helping even some of the more mediocre of BTC performing portfolios (in terms of how it ended up being managed).  I suspect that similar dyanmics are going to end up playing out for Saylor and MSTR. 

In other words, it is not about some of the lucky timing that Saylor and MSTR seemed to have had by getting started in a kind of aggressive way in the $10k price arena (which was ONLY less than a year and a half ago), but instead, there is likely going to be some compounding effects that really are going to be likely to start to show themselves after 1 or 2 cycles of their having been in the game... it's not timing the market, it is time in the market, and truly it will be interesting to see 4-8 years down the road.  The next 4-8 years are critical.^tm


Fuck Elon.

Elon Musk says Nick Szabo is most likely Satoshi Nakamoto.

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-bitcoin-satoshi-nakamoto-creator-cryptocurrency-history-2021-12

When a Green Traffic light says Matrix OK then you know ur getting close =).


Long live progress !