Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 4575. (Read 26609871 times)
October 15, 2021, 11:40:40 AM
October 15, 2021, 11:39:54 AM
After we break ATH I guess we will see some 10k pump days.
October 15, 2021, 11:34:11 AM
if you are willing or able, you can borrow the mobile phone of your wife, gf, child or parents for these few minutes and quickly take a photo 
that's how it was in my case too, and certainly with the other two bros as well
that's how it was in my case too, and certainly with the other two bros as well
I've heard that some people possess a new kind of device where they have separated the picture taking functionality from the phone into its own module. My sources say that this may be called a "camera"
I heard that some people believe that the ONLY way to get a second phone is to acquire and maintain a GF...
nobody here actually believes that
..and @JJG...nothing.
Barely even a mention...
Sucks to be me.
Not excited at all.
ETFs are allowed by SEC so that the powers that be can sell something they don't have (bitcoin) by pledging something they have in unlimited amount through the $$$ printing press. By creating unlimited amounts of paper gold they controlled the price of gold. They'll attempt to do the same with bitcoin!
Hahahahahaha
For sure, you are correct there, becoin.
The various powerful financial system incumbents are going to try their damnedest to try to control bitcoin, and they have so much huberis that a decent number of them believe that they can accomplish their control of bitcoin mission...
Surely, they are going to need luck because their abilities for success are not as obvious as some of them might believe since the ability to demand immediate possession of bitcoin (is different than any other traditional assets) is going to play into this matter, and sure, they can still fractional reserve the fuck out of this whole bitcoin thingie-ma-jiggie and create a lot of contracts that restrict HODLers from demanding/gaining immediate possession of their bitcoin (vouchers), and it surely is going to cost the manipulating intended financial folks a lot of money with a hopium that they are going to be successful, rather than getting reckt by overplaying their hands.. and good luck with that..
Hang on for the ride baby!!!!!!!! The next years are critical.tm
Which side do you want to be on? Do you want to HODL some bitcoin, just in case it catches on? What should be your bitcoin allocation? no coins?, 1%? 10% or some higher amount? DYOR, YMMV... credit to toxicmoxic - where is that boi?
October 15, 2021, 11:33:40 AM
October 15, 2021, 11:20:57 AM
We only had like 8 days to enjoy 50s... 
October 15, 2021, 11:09:54 AM
observing BTC at 60k!
just sold a piece for 60k
October 15, 2021, 11:01:24 AM
October 15, 2021, 11:01:16 AM
October 15, 2021, 10:58:57 AM
In the debate you are having, although to some extent you come to an agreement that the price or purchasing power of bitcoin will have to flatten in the future, I am closer to JJG's thinking.
Well, of course it cannot grow indefinitely forever, but there is a pessimistic view of human growth exemplified by Malthus, and which at least for the moment has been proven wrong. He said that humans grow in geometric progression and food production in arithmetic progression, so that food shortages would not be long in coming due to lack of resources. When he was alive, there were 1 billion people on earth, today there are 7 billion who are generally much better fed and have a much higher standard of living in terms of consumption of goods and services.
But yes, I suppose there has to be a limit to growth and it cannot be infinite, what I doubt is whether we are putting how we imagine the limit very short.
I'm saying the planet isn't designed to pump forever
Well, of course it cannot grow indefinitely forever, but there is a pessimistic view of human growth exemplified by Malthus, and which at least for the moment has been proven wrong. He said that humans grow in geometric progression and food production in arithmetic progression, so that food shortages would not be long in coming due to lack of resources. When he was alive, there were 1 billion people on earth, today there are 7 billion who are generally much better fed and have a much higher standard of living in terms of consumption of goods and services.
But yes, I suppose there has to be a limit to growth and it cannot be infinite, what I doubt is whether we are putting how we imagine the limit very short.
Even though you suggest that you are agreeing with me, P_player.. you have also framed the matter a wee bit differently, since you are focusing on the various kinds of ability to produce more and more abundance, and it seems that I was largely focusing on the fact that bitcoin is the most scarce of goods or assets.. so in that regard, if something more scarce or in the ballpark of the same scarce does not come along, then bitcoin is always going to be gravitating value into it relative to other products and assets... in other words always increasing in value.... seems to be getting somewhat far afield to be attempting to address the matter in terms of various consumption goods and services - even though for sure, there is always value in consumption goods and services - for mere survival... so in that regard, some bare minimums of consumption goods and services do need to be provided, if we are on a desert island, and there is limited water and food, then that water and food will be the most valuable at that point.
On the other hand, when we are presuming some basic levels of production of consumption goods and services and talking about currencies and various other assets such as housing or precious metals, then we are back to bitcoin being the most sound and scarce of them all and likely to pump forever, even if the pump becomes more gradual and flat with the passage of time, I am still presuming that bitcoin is not going to go completely flat, but I am also presuming that we are talking well over 100 years in to the future..... so that does seem to be quite a bit less concrete in terms of our current investment thesis or even projecting into potential legacies that we might attempt to create by being early bitcoin adopters, accumulators and hodlers.
October 15, 2021, 10:48:38 AM
October 15, 2021, 10:45:40 AM
October 15, 2021, 10:18:13 AM
October 15, 2021, 10:14:18 AM
Bitcoin ETF approval imminent, or yet another head fake bull trap?
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/15/bitcoin-etfs-may-finally-make-their-debut-sort-of.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/10/15/bitcoin-etfs-may-finally-make-their-debut-sort-of.html
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Cryptocurrency enthusiasts and the exchange-traded fund industry are bracing for the first bitcoin futures ETF to begin trading Tuesday, when the ProShares Bitcoin Strategy ETF is scheduled to debut at the New York Stock Exchange.
There is, however, one catch: The ETF goes active unless the Securities and Exchange Commission objects to the filing, which can happen right up until midnight Monday.
Despite the uncertainty, many believe the odds are in favor the ETF will begin trading as scheduled.
“I would give it a 75% chance of approval,” ETF Trends director of research Dave Nadig said.
There is, however, one catch: The ETF goes active unless the Securities and Exchange Commission objects to the filing, which can happen right up until midnight Monday.
Despite the uncertainty, many believe the odds are in favor the ETF will begin trading as scheduled.
“I would give it a 75% chance of approval,” ETF Trends director of research Dave Nadig said.
October 15, 2021, 10:10:41 AM
Good morning Bitcoinland.
The battle for $60k rages on... currently $60046USD/$74282CAD (Bitcoinaverage).
As a Wall Observer, observing that wall at $61.5k on Stamp makes me think we might be going sidewayish for a little while. Hopefully I'm wrong and we'll blow right past it.
Go Bitcoin go.
I'll take my profits in Bitcoin thank you.
The battle for $60k rages on... currently $60046USD/$74282CAD (Bitcoinaverage).
As a Wall Observer, observing that wall at $61.5k on Stamp makes me think we might be going sidewayish for a little while. Hopefully I'm wrong and we'll blow right past it.
Go Bitcoin go.
This time wanna take profits.
I'll take my profits in Bitcoin thank you.
This!
Unless you see it dumping from 220k to 40k. I dont want to hold fiat either. I will reinvest in other stuff and buy back in a bear market if we get one. I plan to sell only 10% of my BTC in total.
October 15, 2021, 10:07:06 AM
OK. Time to refresh my neurons.
See, neurons are like dynamic RAM, you know, the little rectangular thingies inside our 'puters. They need to be refreshed constantly to keep dem datas intact, otherwise they forget and we get all sorts of BSODs and shit. And we don't want this to happen now, do we?
Sure, the brain can keep stuff for decades, but breaking $60k is serious shit. I wouldn't want to forget those important strings stored inside my head now, would I?
Can wealth be stored in the brain? You can be damned sure it can! Satoshi made it so.
People of WO! Let those currents flow through your synapses! Refresh your neurons now!
See, neurons are like dynamic RAM, you know, the little rectangular thingies inside our 'puters. They need to be refreshed constantly to keep dem datas intact, otherwise they forget and we get all sorts of BSODs and shit. And we don't want this to happen now, do we?
Sure, the brain can keep stuff for decades, but breaking $60k is serious shit. I wouldn't want to forget those important strings stored inside my head now, would I?
Can wealth be stored in the brain? You can be damned sure it can! Satoshi made it so.
People of WO! Let those currents flow through your synapses! Refresh your neurons now!
October 15, 2021, 10:03:40 AM
Good morning Bitcoinland.
The battle for $60k rages on... currently $60046USD/$74282CAD (Bitcoinaverage).
As a Wall Observer, observing that wall at $61.5k on Stamp makes me think we might be going sidewayish for a little while. Hopefully I'm wrong and we'll blow right past it.
Go Bitcoin go.
I'll take my profits in Bitcoin thank you.
The battle for $60k rages on... currently $60046USD/$74282CAD (Bitcoinaverage).
As a Wall Observer, observing that wall at $61.5k on Stamp makes me think we might be going sidewayish for a little while. Hopefully I'm wrong and we'll blow right past it.
Go Bitcoin go.
This time wanna take profits.
I'll take my profits in Bitcoin thank you.
This!
October 15, 2021, 10:02:43 AM
Where are we heading to? 2017/18 we were expecting 10k to hardly break and then we shot to 20k. This time we have big players in the game who probably gonna take profits earlier?
I think I will start to sell 1% now, 2% at 60k€, 3% at 70k€ and so on. 2013 I was a newbie. 2017 I fell for the "you never sell Bitcoin" talk and seen it dumping 80%. This time wanna take profits.
I think I will start to sell 1% now, 2% at 60k€, 3% at 70k€ and so on. 2013 I was a newbie. 2017 I fell for the "you never sell Bitcoin" talk and seen it dumping 80%. This time wanna take profits.
Wrong. Quote: 2017/18 we were expecting 10k to hardly break and then we shot to 20k.
So what are you expecting this time? If $100k then you're probably right. As to me, $200k is a minimum price I expect. So no selling below $100k.
I am expecting 200k as well as minimum. But as I said, we have different players in the game. I do not tend to trust rich people. So I would not wonder if for example Michael Saylor would dump all his coins on us while telling us that Bitcoin is the future etc. See what Musk did. Even though that was a favor long term.
But you really believe it that Saylor can/will sell his coins below $100k? It's vice versa actually: billionaires are smarter than most people (ok on average) they can see it coming, billionaires don't take meager profits, billionaires don't need FIAT money they have boatloads of filthy fiat etc etc... so if he's going to sell it's not gonna happen soon. Bitcoin is a hedge, you don't have to convert it to fiat. Instead, you should convert fiat to Bitcoin....
October 15, 2021, 10:01:33 AM
October 15, 2021, 10:00:37 AM
Good morning Bitcoinland.
The battle for $60k rages on... currently $60046USD/$74282CAD (Bitcoinaverage).
As a Wall Observer, observing that wall at $61.5k on Stamp makes me think we might be going sidewayish for a little while. Hopefully I'm wrong and we'll blow right past it.
Go Bitcoin go.
I'll take my profits in Bitcoin thank you.
The battle for $60k rages on... currently $60046USD/$74282CAD (Bitcoinaverage).
As a Wall Observer, observing that wall at $61.5k on Stamp makes me think we might be going sidewayish for a little while. Hopefully I'm wrong and we'll blow right past it.
Go Bitcoin go.
This time wanna take profits.
I'll take my profits in Bitcoin thank you.
October 15, 2021, 09:55:17 AM
Where are we heading to? 2017/18 we were expecting 10k to hardly break and then we shot to 20k. This time we have big players in the game who probably gonna take profits earlier?
I think I will start to sell 1% now, 2% at 60k€, 3% at 70k€ and so on. 2013 I was a newbie. 2017 I fell for the "you never sell Bitcoin" talk and seen it dumping 80%. This time wanna take profits.
I think I will start to sell 1% now, 2% at 60k€, 3% at 70k€ and so on. 2013 I was a newbie. 2017 I fell for the "you never sell Bitcoin" talk and seen it dumping 80%. This time wanna take profits.
Wrong. Quote: 2017/18 we were expecting 10k to hardly break and then we shot to 20k.
So what are you expecting this time? If $100k then you're probably right. As to me, $200k is a minimum price I expect. So no selling below $100k.
I am expecting 200k as well as minimum. But as I said, we have different players in the game. I do not tend to trust rich people. So I would not wonder if for example Michael Saylor would dump all his coins on us while telling us that Bitcoin is the future etc. See what Musk did. Even though that was a favor long term.
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