PARIS — Calling American and Australian behavior “unacceptable between allies and partners,” France announced on Friday that it was recalling its ambassadors to both countries in protest over President Biden’s decision to provide nuclear-powered submarines to Australia.
It was the first time in the history of the long alliance between France and the United States, dating back to 1778, that a French ambassador has been recalled to Paris in this way for consultations. The decision by President Emmanuel Macron reflects the extent of French outrage at what it has a called a “brutal” American decision and a “stab in the back” from Australia.
It was the first time in the history of the long alliance between France and the United States, dating back to 1778, that a French ambassador has been recalled to Paris in this way for consultations. The decision by President Emmanuel Macron reflects the extent of French outrage at what it has a called a “brutal” American decision and a “stab in the back” from Australia.
But why would France care so much? Does this adversely affect their military standing on the world stage?
Australia on Wednesday canceled a $66 billion agreement to purchase French-built, conventionally powered submarines, hours before the deal with Washington and London was announced.
Oh, money, grift, corruption and pork.
Of course.
The French as part of the EEC did not care when quotas for exports from Australia to Great Britain, a major trading partner were imposed when GB joined the EEC. Australia took a blow, and a lesson and now concentrates on trade in Asia.
European defense policy is in disarray meanwhile People’s Liberation Army Navy has 6 nuclear subs, 50+ conventional and rapidly increasing spending. Australia require the latest and best to help balance power in the region.
I believe India has one nuclear sub with 3 more to follow, all designed and built there.
IMO EU should be fine in longer run if they start pumping money in defense, they needs to be careful tho. Leadership is important, recently French presidential candidate for 2022 made some noise in favor of Russia and China due to this recent deal, don't know if it was only political speech or Far right in France really hate USA that much.
Conventional subs are okay-ish for defensive strategy but inferior when it comes to hunting game, that's where SSNs (nuclear -powered) comes up so Oz did hit the jackpot by striking this deal, considering few countries operate SSNs and has this technology. Its clear that Australia changing their doctrine but it will take decade to mature, till then they could also try leasing couple of subs from the USA similar to India (Russian sub).
Yeah but all of them are SSBNs (Nuclear armed) for deterrence /second strike capability. 6 SSNs (right now India using Russian sub) and 6 S5 class subs(Next generation subs, not sure if its SSBNs or SSNs) are also in pipeline and construction is about to start so India is heading in the right direction and i think France is going to assist us this time, last time they declined to provide any support but now table has turned because of AUKUS alliance.
Well something is going on in the world, Sweden increased it's military expenditure with 40% and four new regiments and one new air flotilla is opening very soon, the firs, K4, is opening on September 24.
https://tekdeeps.com/sweden-gets-five-new-regiments-and-a-new-air-flotilla/
... Trump called out all the euroweenie peaceniks for breaking their Nato obligations on defence spending for the last 30 years so they've upped their spending to try and fulfill their side of the treaty again, none of them are anywhere near the 4% of GDP required
... It's simple game theory, unless everyone is disarmed ( never gonna happen), then it is safest and peaceful when everyone is adequately armed
