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And while we, for once, had an interesting and heated debate, the price once again tanked.

They did that in 2017 as well, nothing to take any notice about.

Yes, but the outcome was better for humanity then if the wars weren't fought in the first place. So humanity is the clear winner in both these wars.

How many casualities South Korea and Allied forces had to suffer to win these wars.

Every Youtuber starts to talk about other cryptos flipping Bitcoin. I think sometime soon whales will move their money out of all that alts and show who is king. Hopefully the whales will not forget their roots. Without Bitcoin they still would be poor. Including me. While I am no whale  

Oh come on, that's hippie talk.
Was there no winner when the allied beat the axis powers?
Was there no winner when South Korea pushed the communists back above the 38th parallel?

It's true what Elwar says though.
All countries with any armed forces worth the name do simulations all the time, we (Sweden) do it too.
This is standard procedure and there is no reason to go public with any given simulation, so if they do, it's for a reason.

Great! There are no winners in war, only Losers so spread the message of peace acrss the globe.

Actually, the science on that isn't all that clear, it seems we are born with a sense of belonging to our own in group and by default dislike out groups. The trick is to widen the in group as much as possible, that's what the nation states are doing.

Just for the hell of it I'm gonna buy a 1:87 (H0) model of the brand spanking new Israeli APC "Eitan" and paint it green and put it in my vitrine.

https://www.shapeways.com/product/BV9TJWW7M/eitan-8x8-apc-scale-1-87?optionId=70082305&li=marketplace

We are born as babies and babies are not born with hate ore racism, all bullshit, it's being learned through society and society needs to change and to change it we need to start changing the financial system first to reach world peace. That's why Bitcoin is extremely important.

Stay positive. Your thoughts will be your words, words will be your deeds, deeds will become your personality and that will determines your destiny.

Make love not war!

There is a nice book by a Palestinian hill walker who writes about the ever shrinking landscape he is allowed to walk on.

Palestinian Walks: Forays into a Vanishing Landscape – Raja Shehadeh

But how would Russia (or for that matter any one else) respond if 2000 missiles were fired at them.

This is the WO though and not the place for a heated discussion on a very complicated situation.

Some serious FUD last few days, very good of that nice man Elon to cause a panic 10% off sale so that those deserving buyers could relieve the panic stricken of their coins.
Now I wonder what they will do with their $$$ ? let them rot away at 5% loss per year or buy back in at a higher price.  

 

I'm okay with ending the discussion though, I just didn't want the Israel bashing stand unanswered.

From Quora
"Jews had lived in the area for almost 2000 years prior to the Romans. Before them, there were various tribes - known as the Canaanites. These either assimilated in the Jewish people or were dispersed during the various “big power” conquests e.g. by the Assyrians and Babylonians."


If they don't want to be put out of their homes, all they have to do is leave Israel alone.

I merely pointed out that you only requested that the discussion was taken elsewhere when someone took Israels side, you could have done so much earlier if you really didn't want any discussion.

The only takeaway I have from the Israel thing is the fact that they announced a simulated war with Hamas "within 2 days" for a month long war. Then the next day they were "attacked" and had to begin a month long war.

That doesn't concern me so much as this:
Classified US military war game set to take place as concerns about threats posed by China and Russia increase
Scheduled for this summer.


The US does war simulations all the time, I've been involved in many of them. There is really no reason to tell the media about doing so. Unless they need to explain why they're moving a bunch of heavy equipment into attack positions, like was done with Israel (but they attacked first! we were told that on the mass media programming).

The land! Where the Jews are is not from them. They gived the Jews a option “....” to go there and Settle.
Before the jews came there it was from the Palestine’s.

They need to stop from both sides  respect eachother and dont put poeple out of there homes there living for centuries. Ask your self how wold you feel if someone comes and say you need leave your home beceause someone else gonne live there. The most bad part is that children and woman’s are going to die and already.
Without woman’s men were nothing they can give us a child

Respect eachother everyone is gonne die if you get old ofcourse not beceause of freaking war!

You are entirely incorrect as to what "side" you perceive me to be on, although that does not really matter.  The side I am MOST on happens to be supporting the peaceful Jews and Muslims.

What I said was intentionally free from taking sides either explicitly or implied.

I very precisely chose my words to communicate EXACTLY what I meant.

If you read it again slowly, and leave out any interpretations other than "THIS IS THE WRONG PLACE FOR THIS DISCUSSION" then you might end up with a more accurate picture of what I meant.

The land was "lost" to Israel after they attacked Israel in order to totally wipe it of the map and kill all the jews. It sucks to loose, but they started it and now they have to suffer the consequences.

Not to mention that it is jewish land to begin with. The Romans occupied it and eventually got tired of the constant jewish insurrections and scattered the jews all over the world. all regional powers coming after the Romans continued the occupation. It took them some 2000 years to get it back, but now they have it, and if anyone thinks they are gonna leave again, they are in for a surprise.

As it likely is with many such ventures. There were 4 of us owners. The 3 original owners thought they had a great idea...let's bring some awesome live bands to the downtown bar scene (like Athens, GA...like 6th street in Austin, etc.). One was in the music business, the other worked for the newspaper and the other owned the restaurant right next door to the place they purchased. They fixed it up, put about $150k into it and made it very cool (turned a Goodwill into a bar).

The restaurant owner's franchise had a problem with him owning a business right next door selling drinks so he had to sell his shares. A buddy of mine and myself came in as silent owners for $25k each.

The main problem is that we just didn't have the revenue to keep the bar going. The reason for that is manyfold.
The bands we could get were bands passing from Atlanta to Columbia, SC...stopping in our little shithole town during the week as a cheap gig.
To pay for the bands we let them charge a cover at the door and keep all of the money from the door while we made money on drinks.
No other bar downtown charged a cover, so coming to the door and someone asking for $5 to come inside the bar tended to result in people just moving on to the bar a few doors down with cheaper drinks and no cover.
The bands we could get were from every style. Country one night, goth the next night, rock the next night...it made it difficult to have a core group of people that would come to the bar all the time. We had to take what we could get.
The bar was situated in such a way that the front room and the back room had a bar, the back room had the live music but if you passed by the place it looked empty even if there was a band with a lot of people watching. Nobody wants to go out and party and sit in an empty bar.
The owners couldn't spend as much time watching over the bar any more. The newspaper guy got a promotion to editor, the other guy had a baby and was home with his wife all the time.
We didn't really have a bar manager as the owners had been filling that role early on. We just had a head bartender and she was robbing us blind.
I was in Iraq, doing what I could for the bar by maintaining the website.

But ya, in the end we had a $2000 per month rent bill due, a $2,000 per month power bill (mainly for the A/C) and hardly any revenue.

We got big funds when we had big bands like Buckcherry and such but those were few and far between, they would bring in a few thousand dollars for the night but that was it. Most nights were about $20-$100.

In the end we were happy to sell the whole bar for $10,000 because we were bleeding money and likely would not have been able to afford the next rent bill.

I think a wise business practice would be to buy a business that just started about 2 years prior. The founders had an idea, they raised some funds and executed the idea, they got the high of finally having their dream business...then that's it. You have other dreams, life moves on with different things. Your dream isn't as great as you thought it would be. Everyone's ready to sell. At that point, buy them out and get it on the cheap. I believe Mitt Romney's business was based around that but at a bigger scale.


It worked out for me though, I met my first wife thanks to owning the bar (we met right before I went out to Iraq).