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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 5878. (Read 26715727 times)

legendary
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Finally it’s looking like maths & science is pumping up the price  Grin
Refreshing  Smiley

You mean BTC isn’t dead?

Nah... it can’t die after my 8 year HODL...

It was a proudhon counter attack, plus sideways sucks  Grin

Dude, was joking. 7 year HODLER & constant buyer here Wink

My sarcasm detector doesn’t always work  Cry

HODL + buy = best strategy

Let it rain Lambos for us  Grin Kiss (nohomo)
hero member
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Still a manic miner
New peeps have two choices..

They can buy now...
 or they can buy next month when the wealthy clients of Morgan Stanley start buying with their millions.  Grin

legendary
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Finally it’s looking like maths & science is pumping up the price  Grin
Refreshing  Smiley

You mean BTC isn’t dead?

Nah... it can’t die after my 8 year HODL...

It was a proudhon counter attack, plus sideways sucks  Grin

Dude, was joking. 7 year HODLER & constant buyer here Wink
legendary
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Cлaвa Укpaїнi!
I have offically joined the ranks of retired WO gentleman. Working just seems kinda pointless.

I don't have any immediate plans to sell a big chunck of my stash - I'll just dip into it as needed.

Go Bitcoin go!


Congratulations!
legendary
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Finally it’s looking like maths & science is pumping up the price  Grin
Refreshing  Smiley

You mean BTC isn’t dead?

Nah... it can’t die after my 8 year HODL...

It was a proudhon counter attack, plus sideways sucks  Grin
sr. member
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I have offically joined the ranks of retired WO gentleman. Working just seems kinda pointless.

I don't have any immediate plans to sell a big chunck of my stash - I'll just dip into it as needed.

Go Bitcoin go!
copper member
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If you don’t do PGP, you don’t do crypto!
I think that NFTs are awesome.  Not necessarily the particular NFTs being making headline trades right now—many of those are stupid; but then, many uses of Bitcoin have been stupid (especially early on).  Nonetheless, the concept is awesome.

And get this:  NFTs are not in competition with Bitcoin!  Bitcoin is a currency; it is supposed to be fungible, and I defend Bitcoin’s fungibility.  Non-Fungible Tokens are, of course, not fungible.  They are not supposed to be a currency.  Why are some Bitcoiners getting bent out of shape about this?  Just because NFTs run on generalized smart-contract chains,0 which Bitcoin is not?

NFTs apply cryptography for a new use case.  A very useful use case.1  They have created a new asset class that improves on the properties of similar, older asset classes, just as Bitcoin created a new kind of money that improves on the properties of older monies.

Proof that NFT technology will succeed:  I see WOers slinging the exact same FUD against NFTs as has always been used against Bitcoin.  Let’s see just how much this technology will totally take over the world:

  • “It’s a Ponzi.” ✔
  • “The scarcity is artificial.  Anyone can make perfect copies of it.” ✔
  • “Drug dealers will use it to launder money.” ✔
  • “Those fools will be burned when it is shut down by regulators (SEC, et al.).”2

I anticipate that as I keep reading WO posts about NFTs, I will be adding to this list...



Now, don’t you dare accuse me of being “bullish on NFTs”, or some such nonsense.  Again, duh:  NFTs are non-fungible.  To say, “Buy NFTs!” is like saying, “Buy stuff!”  Well, what stuff?  Some stuff is valuable; other stuff is not.

In the course of my life, I have sometimes paid extra for e.g. a copy of a book autographed by an author whom I admire.  That copy is just like every other copy, except that the author spent about a second of his time marking that copy as special.  I doubt that anyone here would call me stupid for buying that; everyone understands that fans and admirers like autographed copies.  By close analogy, I would be happy to buy a limited-edition, digitally-autographed NFT for an e-book issued by the same author.

NFTs are also good for the use case of tracking title to real-world assets, e.g. land titles.  If NFTs can take over those functions in the future, that will improve the world.  The legacy systems are horrible.  Cryptography can make things better.

Somehow, I get the feeling that the people bashing NFTs didn’t CPU-mine Bitcoin in 2009, and didn’t buy Bitcoin at $0.06.  It is hard to see the future.



Disclosure:  As of this writing, I have never bought an NFT.  In the future, I may—perhaps—not as a speculative investment, but rather, if I see something that I actually want to own.


0. Right now, that’s mostly Ethereum.  But also right now, there is a hot competition for which smart contract chain will be ETH2—and ETH2 itself seems to be in a losing position, because they are not yet shipping and they won’t be for a long time.  I doubt that ETH maximalists will like the results.  They should have learned a lesson from Bitcoin Core:  Do The Right Thing, don’t move fast and break things with people’s money, and don’t paint yourself into a corner where your system needs massive changes which require disrupting your own ecosystem.  If you do these things, that is how you kill your own brand and lose your first-mover advantage.

1. Long before the general public learned about NFTs in the headlines, I had ideas for a new business model through which NFTs can be used to generate sustainable income for content producers.  I don’t want to spill details, because—business model.  Whereas the importance of such use cases should be obvious to anyone who has followed the copyright wars.

2. The reference to the SEC is especially nonsensical here.  How the hell is ownership of a digital asset in any way even remotely similar to a security representing an equity interest in a business?  Talk about the SEC here is “not even wrong”.  It is a total non sequitur.
legendary
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legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
A couple of days ago, Biodom posted a recent interview with Michael Saylor, which I bookmarked to watch later. I just did, and it's a good one. Typical Saylor. I like his way of explaining the different concepts involved. Here's the interview again:

https://youtu.be/wnQJ8ROyhrM

A good watch in its entirety.

If you think it's merit-worthy, please do not merit me, but Biodom's original post above.

Edit: He discusses the idea of earning interest on his Bitcoin by lending it via services like Celsius. He says it's not worth it. He's a hardcore HoDLer!

I found his discussion on Bitcoin essentially being the transfer of energy interesting because it looks like he's definitely looked into the concept of transferring electricity over large distances.

I believe that the best future currency will be energy. Ideally such that you have something like a thumb drive in your pocket, you walk into the store and plug in the drive and it "charges" a few seconds and now they have $50 worth of KWh. You can buy and sell over the mesh network and when you get paid you either just get it automatically uploaded to your home charger or whichever.

Of course I have to say the future because there are all sorts of hurdles of physics to deal with as Saylor touched on with loss of power over distance and such. I think that once superconductors reach room temperature this would be one of the applications. They have just discovered some twisted pair carbon superconductors that are fairly promising.

If, instead of miners just burning power to create BTC there was a rush to create energy such that the planet is filled with abundant stored energy...it would be useful toward our move into space.
legendary
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Finally it’s looking like maths & science is pumping up the price  Grin
Refreshing  Smiley

You mean BTC isn’t dead?
legendary
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Finally it’s looking like maths & science is pumping up the price  Grin
Refreshing  Smiley
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
Managed to scalp some dip @ $54.5k at the lowest, over night. Guess I need to cancel my buy orders down to $51k now  Wink

Onward to $75k now, please.

legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
legendary
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holy green candle batman..
This is why we celebrate st paddy's day man.
It is a wave of green everywhere you can imagine even on the markets! Grin
legendary
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Addicted to HoDLing!
A couple of days ago, Biodom posted a recent interview with Michael Saylor, which I bookmarked to watch later. I just did, and it's a good one. Typical Saylor. I like his way of explaining the different concepts involved. Here's the interview again:

https://youtu.be/wnQJ8ROyhrM

A good watch in its entirety.

If you think it's merit-worthy, please do not merit me, but Biodom's original post above.

Edit: He discusses the idea of earning interest on his Bitcoin by lending it via services like Celsius. He says it's not worth the risk and hassle, just for a modest additional gain, when compared to the much higher overall Bitcoin value appreciation. He's a hardcore HoDLer!
legendary
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BTC or BUST

Or one only poor people not worth hacking would choose - Kia
Or one many have tried to use but it just kept failing - Alfa
If you want to use it for a very long time without changing - Honda
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
legendary
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hero member
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Bitcoin is GOD
my math is bad "lol".  this is really terrible, if I buy Bitcoin when it price $0.06, I just hope to forget about Bitcoin for a moment and remember Bitcoin 10 years later Cheesy

Unfortunately, the way that tends to work is you go back home and say "Mum, do you remember that PC I had ten years ago?" and get the reply "It kept getting in the way and I needed somewhere to put the exercise bike so I threw it out". And similar stories.

4 years ago when BTC blew up past 1K I plugged in my old PC I had built in 2006 and used till 2010/2011 when I switched to Mac.
I was hoping I had forgotten about some BTC that I might have purchased in a drunk state at some point or find an old wallet or whatever.
All I could find was 500 gigs of porn.

At least I still have the porn.
That was a significant amount of porn at that time, are you sure you did not had access to the next:


https://www.quotes.net/mquote/922121
Quote
Homer Simpson: You workin'?
Benjamin: Oh my, yes. I'm on a secret project that I'm not at liberty to divulge... [coughs] cyborgs...
Doug: I invented a program that downloads porn off the internet one million times faster.
Marge Simpson: Does anybody need that much porno?
Homer Simpson: Uuh-huuh-uuuh, one million times.

 Tongue
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