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legendary
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@AlcoHoDL

Hodl tight man. If you haven't seen bad symptoms yet, you likely won't. When it's bad, it's usually immediately bad. This pattern of yours hit two of my friends (one in her early 40s, the other in his late 50s). Both were out of it in just over one week, plus of course some time to get back to full baseline.

EDIT - No muscle/joint pain? That was the worst of the "light" symptoms apart from head splitting headaches. My older friend, a former athlete, said he'd never felt anything like that muscle pain, even in post-traumatic conditions.
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
member
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I'm strongly considering quitting my job, and doing something, anything else while living off crypto for the foreseeable future. This is the first day of work after a 2 week break, and instead of being "refreshed" and ready to work, all I can think is the break wasn't nearly long enough. Despite finding the work deeply unfulfilling, my job is stable and pays pretty well (a quick Google search says I'm in the top 97% within my state).

Probably the biggest thing holding me back is losing the structure that comes with the daily grind. I'm not completely confident I have the necessary self-discipline to create my own structure over the long-term, and while there are a lot of things I want to do (contribute to open source crypto software, write a novel, go back to school, etc), there's the non-zero chance I end up wandering aimlessly without purpose until wasting away.

Has anyone else gone through this or a similar thought process? This might be the only place (that I know of) with people who could relate.

legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Hey WO gang!

Thanks so much for your replies, I've read and appreciate every single one of them!

On the PC now, at last. WO is a pain to browse from the screen of a phone, let alone posting, quoting, etc. Should get a good tablet. iPad Air maybe? Why not, we're rich now, aren't we?

Still alive, confined at home monitoring myself. This has got to be the weirdest illness I've ever experienced in my entire life. Alternating wildly between feeling "OK" and having a fever and headache. No coughing, no shortness of breath. Not yet anyway. Hopefully never.

Got an oximeter as suggested. Readings look good (alternating between 97% and 98%). I read that 94% is the warning threshold, so all good. I'm quite fit, exercising regularly, not taking any medication, etc. This should help me win this fight.



On topic. I see we had a correction for ants, which is already bouncing back up and has entered the typical decaying oscillatory response. Based on what I've seen so far, I'd say it will either go sideways for a little while and then shoot up, or it will shoot up straight away. We'll see. I'm happy either way. Shouldn't be too greedy. Once upon a time I was aiming for 10k € and we're now at 25k+ €...

I read the post with the news about Bitcoin "losing steam" by dipping 10%. Really? Don't they know nuttin'? Are they embittered nocoiners? Paid shills? Rhetoric questions... Funny thing is that, as already noted, the news item hasn't aged so well, and very soon I see some nice memes being posted based on this.

Not selling a sat until I need to. No targets. Will sell when I need to. And as much as I need to. Will not fill the bank with fiat. Already have some there and they are now worth less than when they were put there.

Onwards & upwards.

HoDL.

#humbled #love #nohomo

yeah it is weird . I was sick with it dec 31 2019 to jan 25 2020. fever on and off. my body felt black and blue and beaten on.

I was 63 when I caught it.
I have asthma
I have diabetes

And I did better with it then my wife. 91-93 on the o2 meter.  fever spiked hard one time 103 for 3 hours. with uncontrollable shakes. My skin felt hot and sweaty and my insides felt cold. Wrapped myself in 3 blankets and sweated that mofo out.

Once that one really hot shaking stopped fever was never over 99 and I was done with it.

For me this was not as bad as the h1n1 flu I had in 2009.

My wife on the other hand really has suffered long term lung damage which is just getting better after 1 year and 1 week since first getting it.

Good luck fighting this mofo bro.
legendary
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精神分析的爸
Regarding paying taxes, this one is a bit older, but we can learn a lot from the big boys on how it is done right:

Germany foregoes ~500M EUR gift taxes on 1B stock gift:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/daviddawkins/2020/10/09/axel-springers-ceo-was-just-given-12-billion-in-stock-heres-how-he-might-sidestep-a-500-million-tax-bill/

The english article above says it is unclear how much tax he is going to pay, german media reports he is going to pay zip-nada-null because actually collecting the tax would have put the company in financial danger (his brilliant tax lawyer will probably get much more than the german tax authorities):

https://www.manager-magazin.de/unternehmen/mathias-doepfner-milliardengeschenk-an-axel-springer-chef-wohl-weitestgehend-steuerfrei-a-dbd7c296-6e81-4239-84b9-45a87f0a18b4

https://mmm.verdi.de/medienwirtschaft/aktiengeschenk-doepfners-steuercoup-69089


Justitia must be wanting to vomit more than she ever could eat..
legendary
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The Concierge of Crypto
The amounts that got sold in the last couple days are alarming. Do they know what we dont yet? Cant decide to sell or wait. I mean only the small amount I bought at 21k and 26k Euro. Have a feeling we go down to hell soon...


relax.
i dont get "selling" btc. you want to trade btc? most professsional traders lose. almost all retail traders lose. bitcoin is longterm savings get rich slow tech. dont trade the best performing asset ever. if you bought and price dips below your entry, be thankful for the opportunity to buy more and lower your entry price.  

when trading you are trying to outperform traders that are:

-smarter
-more experienced
-with waaayyyy deeper pockets
-who are well connected
-and ruthless
-better informed




Don't forget there are traders that don't sleep, trade 20 times a minute, every minute, every hour, every day. They also do so from a variety of signal sources, they always buy a dip, and sell a top. They rely on algorithms, are emotionless, and sometimes even do arbitrage across different exchanges at the speed of a block confirmation. They do all the tech analysis and quants and stuff at gigahertz speeds.

They are sometimes called bots. Trading bots. Selling bots. Buying bots.

Humans don't stand a chance. The only way to beat them is to buy now, sell later (or don't sell). Buy now, hodl for 5 to 10 years.
legendary
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Bitcoin Legal Tender Countries: 2 of 206
Hey WO gang!

Thanks so much for your replies, I've read and appreciate every single one of them!

On the PC now, at last. WO is a pain to browse from the screen of a phone, let alone posting, quoting, etc. Should get a good tablet. iPad Air maybe? Why not, we're rich now, aren't we?

Still alive, confined at home monitoring myself. This has got to be the weirdest illness I've ever experienced in my entire life. Alternating wildly between feeling "OK" and having a fever and headache. No coughing, no shortness of breath. Not yet anyway. Hopefully never.

Got an oximeter as suggested. Readings look good (alternating between 97% and 98%). I read that 94% is the warning threshold, so all good. I'm quite fit, exercising regularly, not taking any medication, etc. This should help me win this fight.



On topic. I see we had a correction for ants, which is already bouncing back up and has entered the typical decaying oscillatory response. Based on what I've seen so far, I'd say it will either go sideways for a little while and then shoot up, or it will shoot up straight away. We'll see. I'm happy either way. Shouldn't be too greedy. Once upon a time I was aiming for 10k € and we're now at 25k+ €...

I read the post with the news about Bitcoin "losing steam" by dipping 10%. Really? Don't they know nuttin'? Are they embittered nocoiners? Paid shills? Rhetoric questions... Funny thing is that, as already noted, the news item hasn't aged so good, and very soon I see some nice memes being posted based on this.

Not selling a sat until I need to. No targets. Will sell when I need to. And as much as I need to. Will not fill the bank with fiat. Already have some there and they are now worth less than when they were put there.

Onwards & upwards.

HoDL.

#humbled #love #nohomo

great for having you back here. but be carefull anyway!  Kiss #nohomo
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
WO is a pain to browse from the screen of a phone
Does WallObserver.tk work better on mobile?
legendary
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Merit: 4839
Addicted to HoDLing!
Hey WO gang!

Thanks so much for your replies, I've read and appreciate every single one of them!

On the PC now, at last. WO is a pain to browse from the screen of a phone, let alone posting, quoting, etc. Should get a good tablet. iPad Air maybe? Why not, we're rich now, aren't we?

Still alive, confined at home monitoring myself. This has got to be the weirdest illness I've ever experienced in my entire life. Alternating wildly between feeling "OK" and having a fever and headache. No coughing, no shortness of breath. Not yet anyway. Hopefully never.

Got an oximeter as suggested. Readings look good (alternating between 97% and 98%). I read that 94% is the warning threshold, so all good. I'm quite fit, exercising regularly, not taking any medication, etc. This should help me win this fight.



On topic. I see we had a correction for ants, which is already bouncing back up and has entered the typical decaying oscillatory response. Based on what I've seen so far, I'd say it will either go sideways for a little while and then shoot up, or it will shoot up straight away. We'll see. I'm happy either way. Shouldn't be too greedy. Once upon a time I was aiming for 10k € and we're now at 25k+ €...

I read the post with the news about Bitcoin "losing steam" by dipping 10%. Really? Don't they know nuttin'? Are they embittered nocoiners? Paid shills? Rhetoric questions... Funny thing is that, as already noted, the news item hasn't aged so well, and very soon I see some nice memes being posted based on this.

Not selling a sat until I need to. No targets. Will sell when I need to. And as much as I need to. Will not fill the bank with fiat. Already have some there and they are now worth less than when they were put there.

Onwards & upwards.

HoDL.

#humbled #love #nohomo
legendary
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Bitcoin Legal Tender Countries: 2 of 206
burst of a pre bubble, IMHO. nothing to worry about.

legendary
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I agree that more USD = higher stonks prices generally but at some point eventually somebody is going to make some back of the envelope calculations and will be shocked to find out how overvalued some companies have become. But then again, we all know what the PPT is for and how the stock market must go up to keep the whole show running (debt, 401k and all that).

As I personally was never into stonks (and will never be), I'll just stock up on pop corn and watch how it works out from the sidelines.

The fact that even the S&P 500 could eek out a nice gain (as opposed to a heavy loss) in the worst economic year with the highest job loss since The Great Depression is so criminal that it's mind blowing, and should be very telling for the years to come.
legendary
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精神分析的爸
Interesting interview with the ex CEO of UBS and Credit Suisse (only in german unfortunately):

https://www.bzbasel.ch/wirtschaft/bankerlegende-oswald-gruebel-wir-gehen-in-eine-situation-wie-wir-sie-noch-nie-erlebt-haben-140356175

He actually sounds like some WO regular (of the JJG school as he mentions "Bitcoin" not the forbidden Crypto-word).

TL;DR: Way too much fiat (and debt) out there, debt-fiananced economic growth doesn't really work in the long run, stonks will correct heavily soon since massively overvalued currently, financial market implosion incoming though exact date not set yet.

Disclaimer: I don't like that guy at all, but I can agree to every statement he has made in this interview.

I agree with everything except the "stonks will correct heavily soon" part. They are indeed massively overvalued, but the Fed will keep money printer go brrr on the downlow every year from this point forward, sending stonks even higher. And at the end of every business cycle (7-9 years), they'll use whatever "event" as cover to push trillions of $$$ through, giving Wall Street another massive injection. Next time it won't be just a few trillion though, it'll be more like $10-15 Trillion.

The melt-up will continue for at least another decade, maybe two. Rates will go negative in the U.S. and everywhere else.

Eventually the Fed and the Treasury will merge into one entity, and the nationalization (er, globalization) of the dollar printing machine will be complete.

I admittedly took that a bit out of context and fabricated that as a bit of a misleading teaser what you quoted (the "stonks will correct heavily soon").

What they asked him was if he bought stonks in 2020 and he didn't actually answer that but said instead that he already said a year before when corona wasn't a topic that things are overvalued currently and he expects a sizeable correction, not as much as in the corona crash this spring but since we are now mostly back to pre corona levels, around 20% from March 2020 prices wouldn't surprise him this time.

I agree that more USD = higher stonks prices generally but at some point eventually somebody is going to make some back of the envelope calculations and will be shocked to find out how overvalued some companies have become. But then again, we all know what the PPT is for and how the stock market must go up to keep the whole show running (debt, 401k and all that).

As I personally was never into stonks (and will never be), I'll just stock up on pop corn and watch how it works out from the sidelines.
legendary
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Interesting interview with the ex CEO of UBS and Credit Suisse (only in german unfortunately):

https://www.bzbasel.ch/wirtschaft/bankerlegende-oswald-gruebel-wir-gehen-in-eine-situation-wie-wir-sie-noch-nie-erlebt-haben-140356175

He actually sounds like some WO regular (of the JJG school as he mentions "Bitcoin" not the forbidden Crypto-word).

TL;DR: Way too much fiat (and debt) out there, debt-fiananced economic growth doesn't really work in the long run, stonks will correct heavily soon since massively overvalued currently, financial market implosion incoming though exact date not set yet.

Disclaimer: I don't like that guy at all, but I can agree to every statement he has made in this interview.

I agree with everything except the "stonks will correct heavily soon" part. They are indeed massively overvalued, but the Fed will keep money printer go brrr on the downlow every year from this point forward, sending stonks even higher. And at the end of every business cycle (7-9 years), they'll use whatever "event" as cover to push trillions of $$$ through, giving Wall Street another massive injection. Next time it won't be just a few trillion though, it'll be more like $10-15 Trillion.

The melt-up will continue for at least another decade, maybe two. Rates will go negative in the U.S. and everywhere else.

Eventually the Fed and the Treasury will merge into one entity, and the nationalization (er, globalization) of the dollar printing machine will be complete.

A decade or two though? That seems quite the leisurely collapse.

The dollar won't collapse the way most people think it will. It will be a 'reset'.

What the Fed/Treasury will do is just one day out-of-the-blue announce a new "digital dollar cryptocurrency" (i.e., Fedcoin) that essentially replaces the old dollar, and everything will be rolled over to it. People won't get a choice to 'adopt' it, the banks will just do the conversion for everyone automatically and behind the scenes.

But it will be the fine print that Average Joe nobody will forget to read: the conversion rate from the old paper fiat dollar to the new Fedcoin will be something like 1.1 : 1. Or perhaps an even worse conversion rate.

Markets (due to the billionaire insiders) will front run this surprise announcement and go to the moon.

The Average Joes out there with lots of fiat savings will lose millions in purchasing power overnight.
legendary
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Crypto for the Crypto Throne!
Boy, ceгoдня нaщeлкaли лoнгoв нa $1,27 млpд!  Shocked


he he he
member
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Interesting interview with the ex CEO of UBS and Credit Suisse (only in german unfortunately):

https://www.bzbasel.ch/wirtschaft/bankerlegende-oswald-gruebel-wir-gehen-in-eine-situation-wie-wir-sie-noch-nie-erlebt-haben-140356175

He actually sounds like some WO regular (of the JJG school as he mentions "Bitcoin" not the forbidden Crypto-word).

TL;DR: Way too much fiat (and debt) out there, debt-fiananced economic growth doesn't really work in the long run, stonks will correct heavily soon since massively overvalued currently, financial market implosion incoming though exact date not set yet.

Disclaimer: I don't like that guy at all, but I can agree to every statement he has made in this interview.

I agree with everything except the "stonks will correct heavily soon" part. They are indeed massively overvalued, but the Fed will keep money printer go brrr on the downlow every year from this point forward, sending stonks even higher. And at the end of every business cycle (7-9 years), they'll use whatever "event" as cover to push trillions of $$$ through, giving Wall Street another massive injection. Next time it won't be just a few trillion though, it'll be more like $10-15 Trillion.

The melt-up will continue for at least another decade, maybe two. Rates will go negative in the U.S. and everywhere else.

Eventually the Fed and the Treasury will merge into one entity, and the nationalization (er, globalization) of the dollar printing machine will be complete.

A decade or two though? That seems quite the leisurely collapse.
legendary
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BTC or BUST
My logic says that if the $ goes down then stocks will go “up” in number, because the companies and their assets will be worth more $s..
legendary
Activity: 3780
Merit: 5429
Interesting interview with the ex CEO of UBS and Credit Suisse (only in german unfortunately):

https://www.bzbasel.ch/wirtschaft/bankerlegende-oswald-gruebel-wir-gehen-in-eine-situation-wie-wir-sie-noch-nie-erlebt-haben-140356175

He actually sounds like some WO regular (of the JJG school as he mentions "Bitcoin" not the forbidden Crypto-word).

TL;DR: Way too much fiat (and debt) out there, debt-fiananced economic growth doesn't really work in the long run, stonks will correct heavily soon since massively overvalued currently, financial market implosion incoming though exact date not set yet.

Disclaimer: I don't like that guy at all, but I can agree to every statement he has made in this interview.

I agree with everything except the "stonks will correct heavily soon" part. They are indeed massively overvalued, but the Fed will keep money printer go brrr on the downlow every year from this point forward, sending stonks even higher. And at the end of every business cycle (7-9 years), they'll use whatever downturn "event" as cover to push trillions of $$$ through, giving Wall Street another massive injection. Next time it won't be just a few trillion though, it'll be more like $10-15 Trillion.

The melt-up will continue for at least another decade, maybe two. Rates will go negative in the U.S. and everywhere else.

Eventually the Fed and the Treasury will merge into one entity, and the nationalization (er, globalization) of the dollar printing machine will be complete.
legendary
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That's some massive fight around 30k level!
BTW, voted for the poll T/A is shamelessly worthless! Better stick to the old plan B.
legendary
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Man who stares at charts (and stars, too...)
Bears trying to take us sub $30,000 again  Roll Eyes

Institutions and governments waiting for lower prices at the OTC desks.
Bears ARE useful  Grin
legendary
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Bears trying to take us sub $30,000 again  Roll Eyes
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