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legendary
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Can you see the pattern, gents?

First, Mnuchin & co. try to sneak in a rule (with actual power of law) to mandate disclosure of noncustodial wallets - that's the "your keys" part in "not your keys, not your coins". The personal wallets, d'oh. I reposted an invitation to comment while there's time. The time, by the way, is unusually short and goes against established practice and customs. Here's my appeal repost.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55991999

Then, all privacy coins get an unprecedented wave of delistings. Not only dubious stuff like zcash, but actual solid coins with a history of actual use. I'm talking Monero, my favorite altcoin personally.

I support kurious's idea of boycotting exchanges that delist legitimate coins without a reason. Were they really served with a gag order? We will likely never know, but the whole thing smells funny. I don't like it a bit.

Happy New Year, brothers!

Allow me a little rant?

TPTB are increasingly making things difficult for us 'plebs' to act freely and do as we please as we have been able to thus far.  

Today, Bittrex just gave 14 days notice (they normally give 30) of de-listing privacy coins - including Monero, which is a top 20 market cap, and IMHO an honest traditional and respected POW coin.  

You may not hold this coin of course, so you may think it doesn't matter.  But it is the creeping march of an increasingly controlled market wishing to become all seeing and all-knowing, which will enable it to squeeze out what it cannot control; Like, well - you and me.

Just be aware that your right to any kind of privacy means nothing any more, unless of course you are a major institution engaging in their 'normal' institutional practice.

If we have any power it is surely to boycott exchanges that act against our interests.  Exchanges like Bittrex should not be able to act against honest customers' buying preferences without some pushback.  If you care - boycott Bittrex and don't let them do what they want with your Bitcoins, your shitcoins or your privacy.
In a few years, ordinary people like us won't be able to even participate in the market without accreditation at this rate.  
 
Is that what we wanted, is that what Satoshi wanted?  Is this it?  I really hope not.  But while we still have power (when exchanges want our coins) let's think about who we give our coins to, eh?  Without our coins they are finished.

Let's not sleep through a total takeover of the market and a mission creep that is intended to gradually squeeze us out?

Fuck Bittrex.  
/rant.

+1 WOsMerit.

I wish I had some 'boring' smerits to give, but it's not that important. It's important that we act a little, at least to let somebody know we are not pleased with this state of affairs. One day we will be more influent, and we won't forget.
legendary
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Sometimes governments seem to forget who's the employer (taxpayers) and who's the employees (politicians and civil servants).

Don't you just hate insubordinate employees?

+1 WOsMerit

We pay them with money and privileges so they can help us.
Never forget.

I wish they could be held responsible for f***ing up. I mean criminally and civilly responsible. The only language humans really understand.
legendary
Activity: 4284
Merit: 5215
You're never too old to think young.
Didn't notice if this was already posted here. If so, sorry for the repost:

A little comic relief...

https://newrepublic.com/article/160773/bitcoin-price-boom-michael-saylor-microstrategy



https://newrepublic.com/article/160773/bitcoin-price-boom-michael-saylor-microstrategy


...

The truth is that Bitcoin, unlike gold, is worthless.* It doesn’t do anything; it has no inherent value and can’t be converted to some other purpose. It’s not backed by a government, making it most useful to transnational crime networks, intelligence agencies, and anyone else looking to keep some assets off the books. The electricity cost of creating, or “mining,” a Bitcoin—which requires accessing the Bitcoin network and making a complicated mathematical calculation that requires tremendous computer power—makes it indefensible. (The more Bitcoin that are mined, the more complicated the calculations become.) Bitcoin works, if at all, because a band of rich speculators has decided it should. Institutional investors are pouring billions into Bitcoin, which some analysts think account for much of its movement in recent months. MicroStrategy itself counts the finance giant BlackRock as its biggest outside shareholder. (Saylor has said that he thinks much Bitcoin trading data is inaccurate.)...

This is the lie anyone that understands solar energy and wind power knows that this is basically a criminal false hood.

The btc mining incentive can allow for solar and wind power to be built world wide.  I have already been involved in build one solar array with more then 100kwatts of power that was fully paid off in under 4 years (2017). we are now doing a second solar project with more then 500kwatts of power that should be fund from our 2020-2021 profits.

If I could find a good investor I could build more.  

As I said... comic relief.

It has every hackneyed FUD cliche that's been debunked years ago.

No value... "transnational crime networks"... environmental destruction from mining... scammers...

I'm surprised he didn't mention terrorism, drugs, and kiddie porn. LOL  

 Grin
legendary
Activity: 4382
Merit: 9330
'The right to privacy matters'
Well we are at or close to my projected correction point of 26-30k.

If we don't correct my second point of correction is 70-80k

Big difference  in those numbers.

first one represents July 2019 price of 13k with adjustment for diff, eff, and block size.

the higher number represents dec 2017 price of 19.9k with adjustments for diff,eff,and block size.

Neither level held. I thought us more likely to correct at the 2019 adjusted point ie 26-30k

we are there. 

I now have to decide cash out and don't hodl

Partly cash out partly hodl

or fuck it just hodl.

Mining is like stacking coin.  So even if I sell everything now.

I will still accumulate .

It is a different mindset then buy the dip and hodl.

I think I will do nothing for a bit just mine and hodl.

STT
legendary
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Wow it's a nice setup you have there... is that an 086? 5.25 floppies right?  Grin

I owned one of those with dual floppies, did the whole deal including an early GUI (Gem?) predating general windows usage.    I managed to find a buyer for it (its heavy so not easy to do) as it had been working the same for decades, not much but when its a complete deal with monitor and printer someone had a use for it.     Used to type all my old test essays on it as my handwriting is hieroglyphical but I top 50wpm np

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creeping march
   Its something to be wary of overall and 14 days is rapid if we account for non working days also.  So the market surprise from Ripple which was a centralised puppet setup anyway is spreading to other coins for some reason, its notable as news I think.    A year ago I did expect some negative news in crypto overall so hope its not to reappear now.   Immediate effect for BTC is some forced buying as people dont want to be marooned in an exchange that already over charges for withdrawal fees etc.   so generally I think some knock on effect even outside the exchange.

BTC is above the 2 day average but also some constricting range near 30k recently.
legendary
Activity: 4382
Merit: 9330
'The right to privacy matters'
Didn't notice if this was already posted here. If so, sorry for the repost:

A little comic relief...

https://newrepublic.com/article/160773/bitcoin-price-boom-michael-saylor-microstrategy



https://newrepublic.com/article/160773/bitcoin-price-boom-michael-saylor-microstrategy


...

The truth is that Bitcoin, unlike gold, is worthless.* It doesn’t do anything; it has no inherent value and can’t be converted to some other purpose. It’s not backed by a government, making it most useful to transnational crime networks, intelligence agencies, and anyone else looking to keep some assets off the books. The electricity cost of creating, or “mining,” a Bitcoin—which requires accessing the Bitcoin network and making a complicated mathematical calculation that requires tremendous computer power—makes it indefensible. (The more Bitcoin that are mined, the more complicated the calculations become.) Bitcoin works, if at all, because a band of rich speculators has decided it should. Institutional investors are pouring billions into Bitcoin, which some analysts think account for much of its movement in recent months. MicroStrategy itself counts the finance giant BlackRock as its biggest outside shareholder. (Saylor has said that he thinks much Bitcoin trading data is inaccurate.)...

This is the lie anyone that understands solar energy and wind power knows that this is basically a criminal false hood.

The btc mining incentive can allow for solar and wind power to be built world wide.  I have already been involved in build one solar array with more then 100kwatts of power that was fully paid off in under 4 years (2017). we are now doing a second solar project with more then 500kwatts of power that should be fund from our 2020-2021 profits.

If I could find a good investor I could build more. 
legendary
Activity: 4284
Merit: 5215
You're never too old to think young.
Didn't notice if this was already posted here. If so, sorry for the repost:

A little comic relief...

https://newrepublic.com/article/160773/bitcoin-price-boom-michael-saylor-microstrategy
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 7912
Sometimes governments seem to forget who's the employer (taxpayers) and who's the employees (politicians and civil servants).

Don't you just hate insubordinate employees?


legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
I am amused that we have made a new ATH of $29,700 and no one seems to have noticed.  Including myself.  
You are right but now we are at $29300 hopefully now next stop is $30K very quickly coming.

Just squeeze your butt cheeks tight and pray the tether train keeps chooching.


W0w you had to break this account out of a 2 year hibernation to say this?
legendary
Activity: 3836
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
legendary
Activity: 3220
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
Sometimes governments seem to forget who's the employer (taxpayers) and who's the employees (politicians and civil servants).

Don't you just hate insubordinate employees?

Part of the reason I like Atlas Shrugged. Got a good understanding there of who really works for whom and why.

We forget this. A lot. Which is weird.
legendary
Activity: 4284
Merit: 5215
You're never too old to think young.
Sometimes governments seem to forget who's the employer (taxpayers) and who's the employees (politicians and civil servants).

Don't you just hate insubordinate employees?
legendary
Activity: 875
Merit: 1362
Happy New Year, brothers!

Allow me a little rant?

TPTB are increasingly making things difficult for us 'plebs' to act freely and do as we please as we have been able to thus far.  

Today, Bittrex just gave 14 days notice (they normally give 30) of de-listing privacy coins - including Monero, which is a top 20 market cap, and IMHO an honest traditional and respected POW coin.  

You may not hold this coin of course, so you may think it doesn't matter.  But it is the creeping march of an increasingly controlled market wishing to become all seeing and all-knowing, which will enable it to squeeze out what it cannot control; Like, well - you and me.

Just be aware that your right to any kind of privacy means nothing any more, unless of course you are a major institution engaging in their 'normal' institutional practice.

If we have any power it is surely to boycott exchanges that act against our interests.  Exchanges like Bittrex should not be able to act against honest customers' buying preferences without some pushback.  If you care - boycott Bittrex and don't let them do what they want with your Bitcoins, your shitcoins or your privacy.
In a few years, ordinary people like us won't be able to even participate in the market without accreditation at this rate.  
 
Is that what we wanted, is that what Satoshi wanted?  Is this it?  I really hope not.  But while we still have power (when exchanges want our coins) let's think about who we give our coins to, eh?  Without our coins they are finished.

Let's not sleep through a total takeover of the market and a mission creep that is intended to gradually squeeze us out?

Fuck Bittrex.  
/rant.

I haven't needed to use exchanges for a long time, so I haven't kept up with developments regarding decentralised exchanges - how are things coming along on that front?
legendary
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Privacy Servers. Since 2009.
Longer fight at $30k.... this mark seems to be mucho mucho importante for bears...  Grin
legendary
Activity: 3220
Merit: 2334
I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
TPTB are increasingly making things difficult for us 'plebs' to act freely and do as we please as we have been able to thus far.  

Today, Bittrex just gave 14 days notice (they normally give 30) of de-listing privacy coins - including Monero, which is a top 20 market cap, and IMHO an honest traditional and respected POW coin.  

You may not hold this coin of course, so you may think it doesn't matter.  But it is the creeping march of an increasingly controlled market wishing to become all seeing and all-knowing, which will enable it to squeeze out what it cannot control; Like, well - you and me.

This is... a problem.

I remember quite clearly when the Internet was smaller and a lot more fun and little Google's motto was "Don't be Evil". People there lived by it. But as time went on and the big entertainment money flowed in, founders got rich and the concept of a free and open internet was shoved by the wayside.

Now? Google mail pretty much blacklists you if you are a small ISP because they don't care enough to fix their stuff to meet standards. Laws are passed to make anything that digs into the current profit margins punishable by 10 years in jail, and of course the barriers to entry are raised nice and high so everything can stay like it is... forever.

Will this happen to Crypto? Yeah, probably. The whole personal wallet thing is great for the big centralized players who will loan out your bitcoins or seize them for the Govt so why not? After all, only a criminal would want their own bitcoins. (yeah. /s).

And truth be told there will be a new set of cool innovations. Too many people forget that the Internet really was not supposed to be based on TCP/IP, but IPX/SPX under AT&T's "Connect" system. X.25 mail, X.400 identities, and ISDN connections to every household to servers lovingly hosted and run by the good people at AT&T.

Be glad that didn't happen. Because a six month difference would have made that. Instead we got a good 15 years of freedom before AOL's "people" ran over the net with 2.0.

So think about what's next. Look for the new idea, cherish it, nurture it. See how long you can keep it pure before it's bought for shit fiat and turned into another toxic waste dump.....
legendary
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legendary
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
I am amused that we have made a new ATH of $29,700 and no one seems to have noticed.  Including myself. 

I don't like saying, "I told you so" but I did mention it in my morning greeting.

I realize nobody actually reads it but it's a good way to keep my post count up.  Cheesy

Apologies, you did indeed.  Your Guinness post was quite captivating though!

A JPG is worth 1k words.

wazzat? a JJG is worth 1 kilowords?

per second?


edit: explorer beat me to it
legendary
Activity: 2016
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I am amused that we have made a new ATH of $29,700 and no one seems to have noticed.  Including myself.  

I don't like saying, "I told you so" but I did mention it in my morning greeting.

I realize nobody actually reads it but it's a good way to keep my post count up.  Cheesy

Apologies, you did indeed.  Your Guinness post was quite captivating though!

A JPG is worth 1k words.

A  JJG post's worth.  A JJG JPG.  Get the picture?
legendary
Activity: 3122
Merit: 1538
yes

TPTB are increasingly making things difficult for us 'plebs' to act freely and do as we please as we have been able to thus far.  

I did see this too. XMR has taken a bit of a beating this morning with the news. I don't think it's a massive deal currently but there's surely something going on in the background. Even Voorhees alluded to such

https://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/1345100565735378947

This will drive privacy tokens off the radar and underground. Of course prevailing prices may take a hit but the cryptocurrency technique of privacy doesn’t give a hoot about what governments think. It will only become stronger.
legendary
Activity: 3808
Merit: 7912
I am amused that we have made a new ATH of $29,700 and no one seems to have noticed.  Including myself.  

I don't like saying, "I told you so" but I did mention it in my morning greeting.

I realize nobody actually reads it but it's a good way to keep my post count up.  Cheesy

Apologies, you did indeed.  Your Guinness post was quite captivating though!

A JPG is worth 1k words.

 Not anymore, Bittrex just de-listed it too.

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