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legendary
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https://medium.com/swlh/the-greatest-capitalist-scam-of-the-century-why-credit-scores-are-screwing-us-all-over-7f6b607e745d

Quote from: Samuel James White....Why Credit Scores are Screwing Us All Over
The sad fact is that two-thirds of Americans can’t pass a basic financial literacy test, and it’s not getting better at a rapid pace, either.

That's the gist of it.
I learned many years ago after going bankrupt (entirely my fault, young and stupid) you have to play the credit game
correctly and follow the mostly unwritten rules he spells out.
I did that and over the years since my bankruptcy my credit score is virtually perfect now... 830 or something. I don't really care tbh.
I only know that, not because I check it (I don't, that's bad for credit score) but when re-upping my last car lease,
the salesperson mentioned he never sees folks come in with perfect credit scores.

a while back at a bank they wanted to do a "financial wellness score." whatev. so one question was "what do you think your credit score is?" my answer: i dont care. they were kinda put off.. like what if you need a loan. i told them i will pay cash for whatever i need a loan for. as i DONT do debt.

they were not really impressed. kept telling me i may need it. i just told them i dont play that game any more. i live within my means and plan accordingly.
You know what that means? Means your credit score is higher than their scale goes.
legendary
Activity: 2268
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Thinking about changing to linux soon. -ish. Before the next windows version, at the latest. Long time e-friend nerd recommended linux mint. Looks user friendly. Anyone using it? Can recommend/not recommend?
legendary
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
https://medium.com/swlh/the-greatest-capitalist-scam-of-the-century-why-credit-scores-are-screwing-us-all-over-7f6b607e745d

Quote from: Samuel James White....Why Credit Scores are Screwing Us All Over
The sad fact is that two-thirds of Americans can’t pass a basic financial literacy test, and it’s not getting better at a rapid pace, either.

That's the gist of it.
I learned many years ago after going bankrupt (entirely my fault, young and stupid) you have to play the credit game
correctly and follow the mostly unwritten rules he spells out.
I did that and over the years since my bankruptcy my credit score is virtually perfect now... 830 or something. I don't really care tbh.
I only know that, not because I check it (I don't, that's bad for credit score) but when re-upping my last car lease,
the salesperson mentioned he never sees folks come in with perfect credit scores.

a while back at a bank they wanted to do a "financial wellness score." whatev. so one question was "what do you think your credit score is?" my answer: i dont care. they were kinda put off.. like what if you need a loan. i told them i will pay cash for whatever i need a loan for. as i DONT do debt.

they were not really impressed. kept telling me i may need it. i just told them i dont play that game any more. i live within my means and plan accordingly.
legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 3514
born once atheist
.... I off course laughed at him and he got all indignant and it turns out the guy writes batch files. Lol


Apart from CNC G code,
writing those batch file thingies that fire up one's shitcoin miner are about the extent of my brilliant coding career.
You can laugh at me though.
I wont get indignant....
legendary
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Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Yeah. That's why you bet an amount you can afford to lose, wait for it to double, withdraw the initial... and then just let it ride.

Thats what the smart gambler does.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1278

You can use your BTC stash as collateral for a 5% interest rate personal loan - borrow $10,000 with $40,000 of BTC
Celsius.network

I've earned interest with them for a year now, a good business.

Not your keys, we've had this conversation. don't come crying here when...



Yeah. That's why you bet an amount you can afford to lose, wait for it to double, withdraw the initial... and then just let it ride.
legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

You can use your BTC stash as collateral for a 5% interest rate personal loan - borrow $10,000 with $40,000 of BTC
Celsius.network

I've earned interest with them for a year now, a good business.

Not your keys, we've had this conversation. don't come crying here when...


legendary
Activity: 3836
Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Calling yourself a wage slave for too long means you really need to change something in your life. Not all people can achieve getting enjoyment from work. Some are incapable, others lazy, others just unlucky, although I don't really believe luck can fully define someone. One can make his/her own luck in life, or he/she falls into the "incapable" category. But at least you've got to try. If you fail, try again, and if you fail again, maybe you're not able to do it, or you need to re-evaluate your goals, and Bitcoin can help in such cases, but not everyone is in this situation. Not everyone is a wage slave.

True. But the actual work of one's career can also change drastically over time, to become much less meaningful.

For example, when I first got into IT programming in the mid 90's, the work was actually very meaningful and fun. We were building business software applications from complete scratch, and there was a sense of passion, creativity and analysis in what I was doing day to day. Programmers could use their brains to bang out code to build custom use cases and custom UIs, were respected and revered, and got paid accordingly for their creative analysis and technical knowledge.

By the time I got out of that career in the 2010's, IT programmers were reduced to simply integrating off-the-shelf, expensive closed-source software into existing business environments. They essentially became glorified software "babysitters", having to spend their days trying to integrate and debug software that was poorly-written by someone else, often with poor performance, poor configuration, archaic APIs, missing or incomplete documentation, lack of expertise, etc. And these software integrations were often initiated under ridiculous time schedules and low/inadequate budgets, with use-case and performance expectations that could not be met in the time allotted. Or ever. It became soul-crushing work, and I started having bouts of anxiety and depression that I never had in the beginning of my IT career.

What the IT career became in the end, was not something had I signed up for in the beginning. So I got out.

Its an entire generation of script kiddies that are called programmers. Pretty disgusting actually. I have a nephew who does "penetration testing" and thought writing a batch file was machine coding. He was telling me how the guy who is his direct supervisor codes in machine language which I of course laughed at him and he got all indignant and it turns out the guy writes batch files. Lol

How sad.

I would have even given him a pass if it was assembler.
legendary
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Good discussion...
When you feel burned out, it most definitely means that something has to change.
I am only 9 years into my second career cycle. So far so good, but who knows how long that feeling would last.
Having bitcoin as a 'hobby' certainly helped as it makes things interesting, especially when I had to learn a thing or two about it.

One point regarding drawn-downs: I cannot imagine myself stopping accumulation and starting a strict draw-down. I think this would make me feeling empty and/or exposed.
Spending from IRA just does not feel right and I am not even talking about selling btc for spending. It would be difficult to overcome the hodling philosophy.

@jbreher and @JJG were [having a] discussion spending $92K from a $2.3mil account as an exercise, 4% yearly and all...
That's all peachy, unless either $ value significantly declines or, alternatively, market would not appreciate for, say, 20-30 years.
Then, all money is gone in 25 years, someone is a 90 year old man (if you start at 65) in relative poverty (if social programs collapse or become highly insufficient).
I tend to believe that 4% is hogwash and recent events show that we don't know what to expect down the pike.
It is probably wise to have some residence paid out by 65; at least take this part of the equation out.

Regarding yearly withdraws: 3% sounds much more realistic, at least I use this number for calculations.


You can use your BTC stash as collateral for a 5% interest rate personal loan - borrow $10,000 with $40,000 of BTC
Celsius.network

I've earned interest with them for a year now, a good business.

Interestingly, blockchain.com (the one that used to be blockchain.info) says that it would pay YOU 4.5% on btc in their custody account.
Not sure whether it is in btc or in fiat. Seems to be a better deal, not sure what conditions are, though.
member
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Can't read the article but banks might have no choice than buying negative yelding bonds to follow rules on holdings. Basically to lend money to "risky" companies and people, they have to hold some "non risky" debt.

Funny that the ECB doesn't offer the same deal to actual people.

Yes. My niece took a loan to buy an apartment about a year ago. I was very surprises how high interest bank still take fro lending out money while they get money for no interest them self. I guess in the future bank loans to actual people will have to get to zero

I called my bank for a quick personal 10k loan (I haven't taken a loan since the mid 80's) and they wanted 18%, I was shocked and laughed in the guys face.

Yes, I'd rather take a loan than sell anything right now.

You can use your BTC stash as collateral for a 5% interest rate personal loan - borrow $10,000 with $40,000 of BTC
Celsius.network

I've earned interest with them for a year now, a good business.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1278
Calling yourself a wage slave for too long means you really need to change something in your life. Not all people can achieve getting enjoyment from work. Some are incapable, others lazy, others just unlucky, although I don't really believe luck can fully define someone. One can make his/her own luck in life, or he/she falls into the "incapable" category. But at least you've got to try. If you fail, try again, and if you fail again, maybe you're not able to do it, or you need to re-evaluate your goals, and Bitcoin can help in such cases, but not everyone is in this situation. Not everyone is a wage slave.

True. But the actual work of one's career can also change drastically over time, to become much less meaningful.

For example, when I first got into IT programming in the mid 90's, the work was actually very meaningful and fun. We were building business software applications from complete scratch, and there was a sense of passion, creativity and analysis in what I was doing day to day. Programmers could use their brains to bang out code to build custom use cases and custom UIs, were respected and revered, and got paid accordingly for their creative analysis and technical knowledge.

By the time I got out of that career in the 2010's, IT programmers were reduced to simply integrating off-the-shelf, expensive closed-source software into existing business environments. They essentially became glorified software "babysitters", having to spend their days trying to integrate and debug software that was poorly-written by someone else, often with poor performance, poor configuration, archaic APIs, missing or incomplete documentation, lack of expertise, etc. And these software integrations were often initiated under ridiculous time schedules and low/inadequate budgets, with use-case and performance expectations that could not be met in the time allotted. Or ever. It became soul-crushing work, and I started having bouts of anxiety and depression that I never had in the beginning of my IT career.

What the IT career became in the end, was not something had I signed up for in the beginning. So I got out.
This is why I never got into the field. It was obvious what it had become and what kind of people I would have to be dealing with. Even had a teacher say that people like me were born 20 years too late.
legendary
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Used to be you knew the people in your bank and they knew you. No need for arcane scoring systems.
legendary
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born once atheist
....
...  I'm pretty certain that the world didn't need a twat scented candle.

 edit: added a link in case the world really does need that twat scented candle.

"geranium, citrusy bergamot, and cedar absolutes juxtaposed with Damask rose and ambrette seed"

jeezus christ! wtf is that crazy gooper lady shoving up her stinky pink anyway?

legendary
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a $92K annual drawdown on $2.3M. Not shabby, but neither is it anywhere near what I was making when I was a wage slave. And I ain't typical retirement age yet, so allowances need be made to extend the principal that many more years.
[...]

I recall that you (picnic bear) and I had already had a variation of this conversation regarding having some enjoyment in work, and surely there is going to be individual variation in that regard, and even rewards from work that are not necessarily feeling like they are slave labor. Accordingly, there are reasons why some multi-millionaires and even billionaires will continue to involve themselves in money making endeavors, even though they really do not need to be occupying their time with such business arrangements and some of the work that might come out of juggling various kinds of business relationships, so in that regard, having fuck you status can be played at higher levels, too in which wealthy persons who chooses projects based on personal enjoyment, status, purpose and sometimes will be in a position to can business relations or others to go fly a kite if they do not want to play ball with the wealthy person... of course, assuming that no contractual obligation(s) had been created... and sometimes being the one with more money can sometimes allow for the breaking of contracts without really suffering meaningful negative financial consequences, too.  

[...]

Spot on!

Steve Jobs once said: "For the past 33 years, I have looked in the mirror every morning and asked myself: 'If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?' And whenever the answer has been 'No' for too many days in a row, I know I need to change something."

Calling yourself a wage slave for too long means you really need to change something in your life. Not all people can achieve getting enjoyment from work. Some are incapable, others lazy, others just unlucky, although I don't really believe luck can fully define someone. One can make his/her own luck in life, or he/she falls into the "incapable" category. But at least you've got to try. If you fail, try again, and if you fail again, maybe you're not able to do it, or you need to re-evaluate your goals, and Bitcoin can help in such cases, but not everyone is in this situation. Not everyone is a wage slave.

Reaching "fuck you" richness status should not necessarily mean quitting work, or stopping doing what you're doing. It could mean that you are now able to do more things that were out of your reach before, feeling more secure about your financial situation, enjoying your hobbies and leisure time to the maximum, but continue working on the field you enjoy, and even be much more productive and much more involved now, keeping your brain active and your intellectual abilities in top shape. Many of the super-rich personalities of the world are workaholics, because it's their work that keeps them alive.


 I wonder... or is it perhaps because they said "No" to the mirror too many days in a row and failed to do something about it?  I'm pretty certain that the world didn't need a twat scented candle.
Also, I wonder if old Steve had asked himself, 'If today were the last day of my life, would I want to do what I am about to do today?' before walking to the mirror if he could have achieved so much more with all that extra time?

 edit: added a link in case the world really does need that twat scented candle.



legendary
Activity: 3388
Merit: 3514
born once atheist
https://medium.com/swlh/the-greatest-capitalist-scam-of-the-century-why-credit-scores-are-screwing-us-all-over-7f6b607e745d

Quote from: Samuel James White....Why Credit Scores are Screwing Us All Over
The sad fact is that two-thirds of Americans can’t pass a basic financial literacy test, and it’s not getting better at a rapid pace, either.

That's the gist of it.
I learned many years ago after going bankrupt (entirely my fault, young and stupid) you have to play the credit game
correctly and follow the mostly unwritten rules he spells out.
I did that and over the years since my bankruptcy my credit score is virtually perfect now... 830 or something. I don't really care tbh.
I only know that, not because I check it (I don't, that's bad for credit score) but when re-upping my last car lease,
the salesperson mentioned he never sees folks come in with perfect credit scores.
legendary
Activity: 3794
Merit: 5474
Calling yourself a wage slave for too long means you really need to change something in your life. Not all people can achieve getting enjoyment from work. Some are incapable, others lazy, others just unlucky, although I don't really believe luck can fully define someone. One can make his/her own luck in life, or he/she falls into the "incapable" category. But at least you've got to try. If you fail, try again, and if you fail again, maybe you're not able to do it, or you need to re-evaluate your goals, and Bitcoin can help in such cases, but not everyone is in this situation. Not everyone is a wage slave.

True. But the actual work of one's career can also change drastically over time, to become much less meaningful.

For example, when I first got into IT programming in the mid 90's, the work was actually very meaningful and fun. We were building business software applications from complete scratch, and there was a sense of passion, creativity and analysis in what I was doing day to day. Programmers could use their brains to bang out code to build custom use cases and custom UIs, were respected and revered, and got paid accordingly for their creative analysis and technical knowledge.

By the time I got out of that career in the 2010's, IT programmers were reduced to simply integrating off-the-shelf, expensive closed-source software into existing business environments. They essentially became glorified software "babysitters", having to spend their days trying to integrate and debug software that was poorly-written by someone else, often with poor performance, poor configuration, archaic APIs, missing or incomplete documentation, lack of expertise, etc. And these software integrations were often initiated under ridiculous time schedules and low/inadequate budgets, with use-case and performance expectations that could not be met in the time allotted. Or ever. It became soul-crushing work, and I started having bouts of anxiety and depression that I never had in the beginning of my IT career.

What the IT career became in the end, was not something I had signed up for in the beginning. So I got out.
legendary
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Merit: 4969
Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Complete bullshit. If they classified it as fiat money, then the IRS wouldn't need to tax it.
Someone please inform the IRS


https://libertystreeteconomics.newyorkfed.org/2020/06/bitcoin-is-not-a-new-type-of-money.html
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legendary
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Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o
Good afternoon WO!
Observing @ $9,246
Two weeks break was worth it. Now back to home.

How are we all? Nothing changed for Bitcoin as I see.

I need a summary @JSRAW 🤪
legendary
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Complete bullshit. If they classified it as fiat money, then the IRS wouldn't need to tax it.

Someone please inform the IRS
legendary
Activity: 3794
Merit: 5474

Complete bullshit. If they classified it as fiat money, then the IRS wouldn't need to tax it.
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