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legendary
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Privacy Advocates Are Sounding Alarms Over Coronavirus Surveillance

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As the coronavirus pandemic spreads across Asia, nations leveraged significant surveillance networks to trace the virus’s spread and forced governments around the world to weigh the trade-offs of public health and privacy for millions of people. Now, recent reports say the U.S. government is in talks with controversial surveillance and data gathering companies to enlist them in addressing the coronavirus crisis, signaling an escalation in the use of surveillance tools.


https://www.coindesk.com/privacy-advocates-are-sounding-alarms-over-coronavirus-surveillance

Every time governments say: It is for your safety, you are losing a part of your freedom.

+1 WOsMerit

Its so much worse than you think.

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Between December 2018 and July 2019, the FluSense platform collected and analysed more than 350,000 thermal images and 21m non-speech audio samples from the public waiting areas.

https://www.siliconrepublic.com/machines/coronavirus-coughing-detecting-device

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Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
I give this thing another week.

Italy numbers found to be fraudulent:
"anyone who dies is tested, and if coronavirus is present, the person is counted as a CORONAVIRUS DEATH, even if they died from cancer, or a head injury, or… seasonal H1N1 flu."
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/03/24/wait-just-a-damn-minute-italian-figures-are-with-not-from-coronacold-19/?fbclid=IwAR05pzTAGfVEkg25tHDKyRDtCfhYgj9_EyCfiyQTwGbzkh8PGutoXmKXX-0


In recent times, there seems to be some additional (and deserved skepticisms) regarding how the numbers are counted and the extent to which the methods of counting are consistent, and surely we had problems in some other places that tests were not even being done and numbers were not being accurately reported...

I doubt that we even have to proclaim that one area is fraudulent or deceptive, even if they may have been employing different counting methods or even seemingly (relatively speaking) exaggerating or undercounting of the death attributions and/or other related statistics. 

Of course, some news outlets are guilty of the same lack of fair reporting and representations by exaggerating data in one way or another... or even coming to poor/misleading conclusions based on bad, inaccurate or insufficient data.
legendary
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@ArminVanBitcoin
Most people think the last rally was 20X. #bitcoin didn't rally from $1k to $20k. It rallied from $200 to $20K = 100X. We are now at the $400 level of 2015. 🚀
https://twitter.com/arminvanbitcoin/status/1243158415729471488?s=21

Since we seem to be in a somewhat liquid situation (current status, and questions about if the bottom is in), I remain somewhat unclear regarding what our reasonable jumping off point would be at this point in time for our current projected exponential cycle.  

Personally, I had assessed the 2015 starting off point as $250 (rather than $200), in part because we spent a decent amount of time bouncing in around that $250 price before the 2 year rise from about October 2015 to December 2017, which I have ended up assigning a 78x, as what I would consider a fair representation of the bottom to the top.  Of course, we did visit sub $200 on at least two significant occasions during that 2015 bottom, which was both January 2015 and late August 2015.

Regarding our current, bouncing off price point, I was kind of debating where reasonably (and fairly) that might be, and before our current price crash to $3,850, I had been thinking around $4,200-ish, even though sub $4,200 might have been more fair, yet it seems that my dilemma about sub $4,200 may have been resolved with our retesting a bottom that reached $3,850.

If that current bottom of $3,850 ends up holding, then $3,850 may be a decently fair number for an overall bottom (or jumping off point), even though we did experience a real low at $3,124, it does not seem that we spent a whole hell of a lot of time in the sub $3,850 territory, and currently, I am not really sure if it would be fair to ascribe anywhere in the $3,850 to $4,200 price area as a fair launching off bottom either...

Probably, ultimately, my current point is that it seems to be a bit too early to decide what would be our fair launching off bottom, until we are sure that the bottom is in as a product of both time and quantity.  

Otherwise, I agree with the overall sentiment of ArminVanBitcoin, that our current price seems to be at some point higher than our likely to be starting off point, and we are likely going to have a decently high exponential growth in BTC prices in the coming years, maybe again lasting a couple of years before getting to the top.. not sure if late 2021 has reasonably been put further off, and of course, we have already witnessed that the specific curves of each of these exponential BTC price rises does NOT end up playing out exactly the same, even if they end up having a lot of areas of overlap (which is I suppose what PlanB is describing as co-integration).

Yet ultimately, I am thinking that we are likely to be quite less than 78x this time around, and 30x to 50x seems to be somewhat more reasonable, given BTC's ongoing greater maturity, which for calculation sake would bring our next top anywhere between $120k-ish and $200k-ish. Of course, we have been seeing some numbers that go much further and even close to $500k, which would put the top over 100x, which seems a bit much to me, but we also know that BTC does have past patterns of overshooting even the most reasonably bullish of expectations.

Don't get me wrong.  If all of this ends up being wrong, and we just have some minor boost that fucks up the various theories and patterns, then I still am going to be financially and psychologically o.k. with that, too... .. The models and patterns still seem to be quite convincing in terms of likely ongoing good times ahead for sat stackers and hodlers.
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Privacy Advocates Are Sounding Alarms Over Coronavirus Surveillance

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As the coronavirus pandemic spreads across Asia, nations leveraged significant surveillance networks to trace the virus’s spread and forced governments around the world to weigh the trade-offs of public health and privacy for millions of people. Now, recent reports say the U.S. government is in talks with controversial surveillance and data gathering companies to enlist them in addressing the coronavirus crisis, signaling an escalation in the use of surveillance tools.


https://www.coindesk.com/privacy-advocates-are-sounding-alarms-over-coronavirus-surveillance

Every time governments say: It is for your safety, you are losing a part of your freedom.
legendary
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Wondering what happens next week. 7 millions?

Probably. Then companies can use the federal dollars for stock buybacks at these low low prices.

*munching popcorn*
Of course they are.
What you want to do with all that money?

Warning: also in Zimbawe while inflation was at 100% daily the stock market was going up!
Means only real assets are depreciating little slower than money used to price them.
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
Wondering what happens next week. 7 millions?

Probably. Then companies can use the federal dollars for stock buybacks at these low low prices.

*munching popcorn*
legendary
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APPARENTLY THINGS ARE WORSE THAN EXPECTED!

U.S. Jobless Claims Surged Last Week to Record 3.283 Mln  

This is the week ending March 1421, before the lockdown started...

EDIT: Financial markets don't give a fuck.
SPX up 2%....

Not that surprising. Companies immediately fire people at the first sign of problems, then beg for bailouts to "protect jobs".

Normal.

Wondering what happens next week. 7 millions?

EDIT: Bloomberg fucked up big time this morning with these numbers. Correct date: 21. So numbers for first week of lockdown already included.
legendary
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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)
APPARENTLY THINGS ARE WORSE THAN EXPECTED!

U.S. Jobless Claims Surged Last Week to Record 3.283 Mln  

This is the week ending March 14, before the lockdown started...

EDIT: Financial markets don't give a fuck.
SPX up 2%....

Not that surprising. Companies immediately fire people at the first sign of problems, then beg for bailouts to "protect jobs".

Normal.
jr. member
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The end approaches..What are you doing to prepare?


yes sorry for not alot of posts i actually go outside nowadays :-D LOL GO BITCORN GOOOOO//^
legendary
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still bouncing along sideways in the mid-$6xxx range... currently $6646USD/$9390CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

C'mon Bitcoin, we're waiting for $7k (and beyond).

Get a move on.

A warrior of light an adult does not act like that.

ftfy
Fair point, but that's also the problem. People today, for the most part, do not have adult minds. The environmental pressure that makes that possible is absent.
legendary
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A warrior of light does not act like that.

Says who? WHO? W.H.O. You?

-100 WO merits.



And sometimes by only reading..  Tongue

+100 WO merits.
The author of the manual for the warrior of light.

Well I don't think so Ibi. Maybe you should read it first.
Got it right next to me actually. It's surprisingly inspiring.
legendary
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Good morning Bitcoinland.

Still bouncing along sideways in the mid-$6xxx range... currently $6646USD/$9390CAD (Bitcoinaverage).

C'mon Bitcoin, we're waiting for $7k (and beyond).

Get a move on.

A warrior of light an adult does not act like that.

ftfy
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
I give this thing another week.

Italy numbers found to be fraudulent:
"anyone who dies is tested, and if coronavirus is present, the person is counted as a CORONAVIRUS DEATH, even if they died from cancer, or a head injury, or… seasonal H1N1 flu."
https://www.barnhardt.biz/2020/03/24/wait-just-a-damn-minute-italian-figures-are-with-not-from-coronacold-19/?fbclid=IwAR05pzTAGfVEkg25tHDKyRDtCfhYgj9_EyCfiyQTwGbzkh8PGutoXmKXX-0
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"




... good one, the honey badger president, DGAF.

Someone just needs to give it the big golden mane comb-over and it would fit nicely.

Some wild and out of control thinning hairdo that he is trying to act as if it were normal, and also make him a fat and out of shape fucktard who tries to act like he is handsome and smarter than everyone else.

I kind of prefer the idea of a regular, real deal honey badger, better than any honey badger that would be putting on airs.
hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
A warrior of light does not act like that.

Says who? WHO? W.H.O. You?

-100 WO merits.



And sometimes by only reading..  Tongue

+100 WO merits.
The author of the manual for the warrior of light.

Well I don't think so Ibi. Maybe you should read it first.
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@ArminVanBitcoin
Most people think the last rally was 20X. #bitcoin didn't rally from $1k to $20k. It rallied from $200 to $20K = 100X. We are now at the $400 level of 2015. 🚀
https://twitter.com/arminvanbitcoin/status/1243158415729471488?s=21

I liked this one...
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$6,000,000,000,000 stimulus package for just one country.

And you don't think Bitcoin can reach a $2T market cap? ($100k/coin)
https://twitter.com/danheld/status/1242593211983380480
legendary
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A warrior of light does not act like that.

Says who? WHO? W.H.O. You?

-100 WO merits.



And sometimes by only reading..  Tongue

+100 WO merits.
The author of the manual for the warrior of light.
hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
A warrior of light does not act like that.

Says who? WHO? W.H.O. You?

-100 WO merits.



And sometimes by only reading..  Tongue

+100 WO merits.
legendary
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@ArminVanBitcoin
Most people think the last rally was 20X. #bitcoin didn't rally from $1k to $20k. It rallied from $200 to $20K = 100X. We are now at the $400 level of 2015. 🚀
https://twitter.com/arminvanbitcoin/status/1243158415729471488?s=21



legendary
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Be a bank
https://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees cunt gave in to the kyc cunts with his shapeshift afaiu

other cunt:

not usagi?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/usagi-29927
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