Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 9162.

jbreher

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Quote from: fillippone on October 23, 2019, 02:08:08 AM

Quote from: jbreher on October 22, 2019, 11:05:40 PM

Quote from: Paashaas on October 22, 2019, 10:49:12 PM

Offline payments for Lightning Network.

I thought we decided long ago that we didn't much care for custodial solutions?

As I understand this is something more like a payment with a terrible lag on one of the intermediate hop, delaying final hop until destination node is online. Is that a this a definition of custodial? There are triggers for “failed” payments I guess. I don’t know, but we discussed it here.

And as you correctly surmised right there: "It's not clear (to me, at least) if this solution is fully trustless."

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Quote from: nutildah on October 22, 2019, 11:35:42 PM

Quote from: jbreher on October 22, 2019, 11:05:40 PM

Quote from: Paashaas on October 22, 2019, 10:49:12 PM

Offline payments for Lightning Network.

I thought we decided long ago that we didn't much care for custodial solutions?

Anyone who uses a 3rd party wallet for anything is using a custodial solution. If you want to use bitcoin for micropayments, crossing paths with a "custodial solution" (or in this instance, more accurately a LN node) is an inevitability. The blockchain is too big for everyone to walk around with their own full nodes all the time.

For everything else, there's SPV.

(note: not a custodial solution)

kurious

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Quote from: modpleasehelp on October 23, 2019, 04:41:57 PM

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 23, 2019, 03:41:10 PM

^^
I just don't believe or have to much faith in TA's they are like a newspaper fun to read and look at but +90% bullsh*t .....

Some hopium charts nice and cool, some bear charts look ugly as hell.... but for me its just HODL and believe that i'm doing the right thing as i'm been doing it for a few years... I have to admit that I don't have to much to regret so the TA's guys are happy, i'm happy everybody happy Cheesy

TA is everythieng in this game. so you must pay attention on it.

3k BTC WILL COME any day here

TA is 'everythieng'?

a) Learn to spell
b) TA that says '3K BTC will come' is not credible / risible / faulty TA
c) Just fuck off 'modpleasehelp' and BTW, the help you need is from a psychiatric practitioner.

Excuse the expletives and abuse my fellow WOs, but I am afraid this tosser totally deserves them.

yefi

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Quote from: bitserve on October 23, 2019, 03:13:09 PM

Meh.

This is fine.

Unpleasant, for sure... but still fine.

This needs to turn fairly soon though. A drop to high 6000s, sure; a drop below 6500, hmm, not so good.

kurious

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Quote from: Richy_T on October 23, 2019, 10:56:48 AM

Quote from: bkbirge on October 23, 2019, 10:27:57 AM

That's a good point. Though I suspect behind the scenes where the real practical regulatory discussions are taking place by analysts that bitcoin is still front and center.

Good point. There was an old cartoon about how would you like you cryptocurrency scare, terrorism or paedophilia flavored? I guess we can add facebook (or 'big tech'* in general) to the options now.

*To be clear, there's a lot about big tech that's a problem but using it for scaremongering is a nasty tactic.

Hey Richy - welcome back. Good to see a real OG like you back in the WO.

Stick around, eh?

Last of the V8s

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Quote from: modpleasehelp on October 23, 2019, 04:41:57 PM

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 23, 2019, 03:41:10 PM

^^
I just don't believe or have to much faith in TA's they are like a newspaper fun to read and look at but +90% bullsh*t .....

Some hopium charts nice and cool, some bear charts look ugly as hell.... but for me its just HODL and believe that i'm doing the right thing as i'm been doing it for a few years... I have to admit that I don't have to much to regret so the TA's guys are happy, i'm happy everybody happy Cheesy

TA is everythieng in this game. so you must pay attention on it.

3k BTC WILL COME any day here

3k is not scary... you should try harder... why not 1k? Grin

modpleasehelp

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Quote from: El duderino_ on October 23, 2019, 03:41:10 PM

^^
I just don't believe or have to much faith in TA's they are like a newspaper fun to read and look at but +90% bullsh*t .....

Some hopium charts nice and cool, some bear charts look ugly as hell.... but for me its just HODL and believe that i'm doing the right thing as i'm been doing it for a few years... I have to admit that I don't have to much to regret so the TA's guys are happy, i'm happy everybody happy Cheesy

TA is everythieng in this game. so you must pay attention on it.

3k BTC WILL COME any day here

Searing

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Clueless!

Quote from: rebal15 on October 23, 2019, 04:04:04 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 23, 2019, 04:00:46 PM

Quote from: rebal15 on October 23, 2019, 03:35:37 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 23, 2019, 03:24:59 PM

Well, it's never too late, thanks to Bitcoin this noble boy found love.

When your Laptop literally saves your life. Grin

Well, it's never too late, thanks to Bitcoin, this noble girl has found ......... and bitcoin

An impotent cock?

Good suggestion

I keep telling people...go to the local 'jiggle' shop, those exotic dancers sure are tech-savvy when you start talking about your Bitcoin stash..who'd a thunk it?

Tis a mystery indeed!

rebal15

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 23, 2019, 04:00:46 PM

Quote from: rebal15 on October 23, 2019, 03:35:37 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 23, 2019, 03:24:59 PM

Well, it's never too late, thanks to Bitcoin this noble boy found love.

When your Laptop literally saves your life. Grin

Well, it's never too late, thanks to Bitcoin, this noble girl has found ......... and bitcoin

An impotent cock?

Good suggestion

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Quote from: rebal15 on October 23, 2019, 03:35:37 PM

Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on October 23, 2019, 03:24:59 PM

Well, it's never too late, thanks to Bitcoin this noble boy found love.

When your Laptop literally saves your life. Grin

Well, it's never too late, thanks to Bitcoin, this noble girl has found ......... and bitcoin

An impotent cock?

rebal15

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Quote from: teosanru on October 23, 2019, 03:37:08 PM

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 23, 2019, 03:20:29 PM

Quote from: whiteboy420 on October 23, 2019, 03:14:46 PM

Quote from: whiteboy420 on October 18, 2019, 03:30:36 AM

Instead of getting margin called.

As much as bitcoin may look like a buy, upside momentum is still zero.

Worse than zero.

Negative zero.

Momentum is bearish.

Actually just saw the daily chart this might just be whiteboy420's opinion but the charts say a similar picture. We are having a pretty bad situation on the charts. The 50MA is intersecting the 200MA from above which actually shows a negative momentum. We are atleast going around to 6800 ranges which is support from 50MA on weekly charts. Here you can see. It's called the death cross.

Read more about the death cross here https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deathcross.asp

Where is JJGI, JayJuanGee Indicator, in the chart. when he is a real man, BTC is at the bottom. When he switch to a kind bot, bull market. angry bot, bear market. It is the best indicator for TA.

El duderino_

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BTC + Crossfit, living life.

^^
I just don't believe or have to much faith in TA's they are like a newspaper fun to read and look at but +90% bullsh*t .....

Some hopium charts nice and cool, some bear charts look ugly as hell.... but for me its just HODL and believe that i'm doing the right thing as i'm been doing it for a few years... I have to admit that I don't have to much to regret so the TA's guys are happy, i'm happy everybody happy Cheesy

rebal15

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Quote from: modpleasehelp on October 23, 2019, 03:33:21 PM

Quote from: El duderino_ on October 23, 2019, 03:20:29 PM

Quote from: whiteboy420 on October 23, 2019, 03:14:46 PM

Quote from: whiteboy420 on October 18, 2019, 03:30:36 AM

Instead of getting margin called.

As much as bitcoin may look like a buy, upside momentum is still zero.

Worse than zero.

Negative zero.

Momentum is bearish.

yes correct. I expecting further violent dipping occur here. $3000 Bitcoin is coming by end of month

Which month?

teosanru

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Quote from: El duderino_ on October 23, 2019, 03:20:29 PM

Quote from: whiteboy420 on October 23, 2019, 03:14:46 PM

Quote from: whiteboy420 on October 18, 2019, 03:30:36 AM

Instead of getting margin called.

As much as bitcoin may look like a buy, upside momentum is still zero.

Worse than zero.

Negative zero.

Momentum is bearish.

Actually just saw the daily chart this might just be whiteboy420's opinion but the charts say a similar picture. We are having a pretty bad situation on the charts. The 50MA is intersecting the 200MA from above which actually shows a negative momentum. We are atleast going around to 6800 ranges which is support from 50MA on weekly charts. Here you can see. It's called the death cross.

Read more about the death cross here https://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/deathcross.asp

rebal15

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