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Topic: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 9798. (Read 26607588 times)

legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
legendary
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diamond-handed zealot
Good to have you back on the regular Elwar
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
I think with this next run up I will dissolve any alt coin I have that has not produced what was initial promised when it was created.

I am quite disappointed by MaidSafe. I bought those in the initial offering...back in 2013. They have nothing.

Perhaps try to "time the market" and instead of selling bitcoins toward the top, sell all of my alts for fiat or Tethers. To buy back BTC during the 2 year dip back down to $60k.

Outside of that, I recall watching a presentation by one of the Bitcoin developers talking about a scripting language he created to run in Bitcoin. I did not have time to play around with it then and the guy did say he was going to scrap it all and start from scratch with something better. Does anyone have a link to that presentation or know what it's called?

Edit: My goal has been to try to create a Bitcoin company where nobody in the company needs to be known, but when a customer purchases a product from that company the funds are sent in the same way that a company works. It may go to the CEO, the treasurer (with some restrictions), shareholders, etc. with board members having a way of voting on new paths of revenue and being able to give/take away power from the CEO.

Probably something that can be done in ETH but screw those guys. This is Bitcoin.

I checked into RSK and that does not allow a customer to send bitcoins to the organization. They must first convert their BTC to RSK to then send.

Lightning Network Apps

https://medium.com/coinmonks/intro-to-lightning-network-apps-lapps-b548c96ec13f

Hmm, I see that there are apps that accept LN transactions...perhaps there is some seed of something there. Thank you, I will do some studying.
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You are quite a scum of a human being arent ya
somebody is getting nervous  Grin

seriously, this poster reached already maximum, could someone throw it to permanent rubbish? many thanks
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
legendary
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lose: unfind ... loose: untight
It feels so empty without us doesn't it ? No fomo, no hodl hodl all over the place.. No enthusiasm, no attraction, no desire , no newbies , no price changing investors, no love, no hate either.. I could go on, but when will ya realize ? =3 When we are gone?

Yes. You are correct. I never knew what a huge gaping void existed within my life before you showed up on this thread spewing your  fevered dreams of enrichment.
hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
Maybe you should fuck off, can't that single brain cell figure this out?
hero member
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Homo Sapiens Bitcoinerthalensis
He most likely doesn't have any kids JJG, he just thinks that would give him some extra credibility.
He is a fucking kid ffs - a very dumb one too - can't you tell he has the brain capacity of an amoeba?

13 days & counting you fucking dickhead. Not amused anymore.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Whichever it is, you're clearly wasting your time and energy. Don't you have better things to do ? School is over... don't you have friends to hang out with, a girlfriend, some porn to watch... ?

This is very useful when you do not have a girl friend or you are too young to have sex with a girl. 🤪

Who wants to hang out with a dude wearing a yogoslavian gas mask, anyway?

hahahahaha

Not exactly a chick magnet with that kind of attire....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I do have a girl and a son that is all i am willing to share, and in case of WW3 they both will be protected against most of dangers.

Good luck to the unprepared ones, better be safe than sorry !

Like i give a shit about gender on the NET..

Hate to be giving too many suggestions to a dumbass scamming troll, but to me, it seems a good idea to attempt to remain fuckable in order to keep the woman's interest, to the extent that she is not trapped in her relationship with you.... so I suppose if she does not mind some of your level of scamming nutjob crap, or the fact that you might be earning money through questionable morality (and legality) or your preparing for an Armageddon that is not too likely to happen, then good for you.  

The two of you might be made for each other.  Hopefully, your kids are smart enough to figure out that you are a nutjob, though.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Lol, right now I was going to talk about the infohammer

Time is over, thumb down. Cheesy

Yep..., it is a bit much.. hopefully infofront should delete some of the posts.  Infofront does not have the power to ban a member, so that would have to go further up the chain, and might well be warranted in a case like this.
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
I haven’t written a check since 2002.  And the last time I saw someone actually use a check was almost 10 years ago. It’s astonishing that they still exist in some parts of the world. 
legendary
Activity: 3920
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Whichever it is, you're clearly wasting your time and energy. Don't you have better things to do ? School is over... don't you have friends to hang out with, a girlfriend, some porn to watch... ?

This is very useful when you do not have a girl friend or you are too young to have sex with a girl. 🤪

Who wants to hang out with a dude wearing a yogoslavian gas mask, anyway?

hahahahaha

Not exactly a chick magnet with that kind of attire....  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist
I think with this next run up I will dissolve any alt coin I have that has not produced what was initial promised when it was created.

I am quite disappointed by MaidSafe. I bought those in the initial offering...back in 2013. They have nothing.

Perhaps try to "time the market" and instead of selling bitcoins toward the top, sell all of my alts for fiat or Tethers. To buy back BTC during the 2 year dip back down to $60k.

Outside of that, I recall watching a presentation by one of the Bitcoin developers talking about a scripting language he created to run in Bitcoin. I did not have time to play around with it then and the guy did say he was going to scrap it all and start from scratch with something better. Does anyone have a link to that presentation or know what it's called?

Edit: My goal has been to try to create a Bitcoin company where nobody in the company needs to be known, but when a customer purchases a product from that company the funds are sent in the same way that a company works. It may go to the CEO, the treasurer (with some restrictions), shareholders, etc. with board members having a way of voting on new paths of revenue and being able to give/take away power from the CEO.

Probably something that can be done in ETH but screw those guys. This is Bitcoin.

I checked into RSK and that does not allow a customer to send bitcoins to the organization. They must first convert their BTC to RSK to then send.

Lightning Network Apps

https://medium.com/coinmonks/intro-to-lightning-network-apps-lapps-b548c96ec13f
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
C'mon, Jono, be a good dog.

Sorry Ed

I do respect most people, you included.  But i dony like to be made out to be a troll, just because i sold at 6k. Cheesy

I was just pinting that out.

you are too modest, jonoiv.


You are not merely a shown troll, but instead a "butt hurt troll."   

That is even a better status. 

Someday, if you keep working at it, you might even get your own meme, like your butt buddy roach.... .

... so instead of saying "don't get roached,"  there will be a meme that is specially tailored to your kind of dumbass circumstances, and WO OGs will say:  "don't do a jonoiv." 

From time to time, butt hurt troll fame does have perks.   Wink Wink

My butt buddy roach?

Yep.... exactamente.


Think very long and hard about your next reply, take a deep breath, stop for one second, and understand who you might have on the other end of the keyboard.  

I have a desperate goofball on the other end of the keyboard who wants to grasp at anything to attempt to attribute greater meaning to something than it likely deserves.


For anyone else out there that wants to lump me (a currently bearish trader) with a racist, anti semite cunt, please quote this post.

Your words, not mine, you diptwat, making up of shit dweeb.


I will collate a list:

JJG (free pass this time)

Sounds like a threat to me, you disgruntled butthurt fucktwat.
 Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
legendary
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BTC + Crossfit, living life.
It feels so empty without us doesn't it ? No fomo, no hodl hodl all over the place.. No enthusiasm, no attraction, no desire , no newbies , no price changing investors, no love, no hate either.. I could go on, but when will ya realize ? =3 When we are gone?

No newbies??

Damn getting late ain’t Reading this good probably....

F*** have had a busy evening Roll Eyes

Finally entered my endzone and ready to go into my HODLsleep!

Good night fellow members of the great WO, gonna read through the last few pages tomorrow.
legendary
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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"
Holy shit, Trump just tweeted a bunch of hater shit about Bitcoin and Crypto in general. Time to get this asswipe out of office. I used to like some of his actions, but fuck him and his USD shitcoin!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1149472285905940480

"I am not a fan of Bitcoin and other Cryptocurrencies, which are not money, and whose value is highly volatile and based on thin air. Unregulated Crypto Assets can facilitate unlawful behavior, including drug trade and other illegal activity....

....Similarly, Facebook Libra’s “virtual currency” will have little standing or dependability. If Facebook and other companies want to become a bank, they must seek a new Banking Charter and become subject to all Banking Regulations, just like other Banks, both National...

...and International. We have only one real currency in the USA, and it is stronger than ever, both dependable and reliable. It is by far the most dominant currency anywhere in the World, and it will always stay that way. It is called the United States Dollar!"

Wow. Trump twittering about Bitcoin. Did not expect that to happen for a few more years. Expected when the world would collapse, but it did not (yet). If this is not a bullish sign what is? I am truly amazed there is so little impact. Wow.

Remember when Obama was attempting to denigrate bitcoin by saying that it was like a swiss bank in your pocket.  hahahahaha..,. Even smart peeps say the weirdest things, sometimes.  I would not agree with any assertion that Trump is actual smart, even though he does know effective ways to get results from his attention-whoring inclinations.   Cheesy Cheesy
legendary
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You can play bitcoin investment matters however you like but it seems like a decently postured asymmetric bet .....

It has always been an asymetric bet.....but that understanding comes with recognition that it is a bet, and thus has a finite probability of failure.

Going to our probability calculations,  I now estimate a 65% chance we are in a bull market. The latest rally ironically reduced that probability, because it deviated so much from the previous shallow waves.

The move to 13.5k can either be seen as a demonstration of relative strength, or as a failed parabolic rally in a bear market, which is a much more bearish signal.

So, bull market 65%, bear market 35%.  My breakdown of that :

New AYH within weeks 25%, bounce from support (at $6.5k, $8.5k) 15%, extended sideways consolidation 25%.

Slow grind down from here to below $3k 20%, dump followed by pump to a lower high 10%, crash to deep lows (sub 2k) 5%.

Those percentages are likely not a whole hell of a lot different from my own, but I don't think that we bounce around from bull to bear to bull so easily, but I agree that sometimes it can be a bit difficult to know exactly what we are in, so it might not be that we are bouncing around but just not sure about where we are at.

Anyhow, pretty much after we broke above $4,200 on April 1 and then we went to $6k ish and largely stayed UP for a considerable amount of time, that caused me to conclude, at first tentatively, that we had returned to the bull market.  So going back to a bear market would require a decent amount of down for a decent amount of time, otherwise we are merely in a correction of a bullmarket.

So seems to be one of my criticisms  of you, majormax, in that you are wanting to pull the bear trigger too quickly, from my assessment.

I find it bullish as fuck that our correction from $13,880 has only been down to $9,614... so damned.. seems to be bullish to me, even if there seem to be some difficulties getting back above $13k and staying there... Could take a few more days, or it could take a month or two to get back above $13,880, but that still seems to be bullish to me, as long as we don't drop below $7k.  If we drop below $7k, then at that point, we can start talking about the possibility of bearish.. and even that would not necessarily be a given bearish, depending on context.


OK, fair analysis, I think.  Yes, the market is now/still in bull mode, until confirmed otherwise. My posts are usually trying to remind everyone (myself included !) that there are different possible directions at every point in the market ....no matter how sure an observer may be, there are constant surprises.

Sure, but in the past year or so that I have been exchanging post ideas with you, you really do seem to incessantly and even severely gravitate towards bearish scenarios, even ones that seem to be a bit within the extreme and premature arena.  

I suppose that there remains an amount of genuine personal variability with these kinds of ideas, and I know some of those kinds of folks in real life too, seemingly like you, they are even more cautious than what seems prudent (from my point of view) to be.... Like extreme cautionary, or maybe more risk averse than  I believe to be reasonable... I have already tentatively concluded that you are attempting to post your genuine fears that you have, but I still gotta repeatedly assert that I find you to frequently be prematurely bearish on a regular basis.  


I think I am also liable to appear open to bear interpretation :

Yes... exactly....


Admit it.  Admit it.   Tongue

1. As a devils advocate to the perceived bullish consensus.

2. To avoid disappointment .

3. To remind us that patience is required.

I am surely receptive to most kinds of "avoiding disappointment," which seems to be a frequent reason that I never really want to commit to anything much greater than 50/50 suggestions regarding my expectations of price direction.  So, yeah, in that regard, if you frequently understate expectations or overly prepare psychologically (and maybe even financially, too), then you are bound to be satisfied when better results play out.

Based on some of your previous comments, we might have some similar practices regarding finances, too.. perhaps?  Even if I am considering odds to be decently high for down, I tend to be too chickenshit to sell, so in that regard, my main remedy for such negative feelings is merely to figure out various buying points, in terms of perhaps tweaking quantity and changing buy increments.  But, yeah, frequently, BTC HODLers/accumulators will show a decent amount of lacking in psychological preparedness when the negative scenarios do actually play out, and sometimes there could have been some needs to financially synchronize so that you don't feel so bad if the negative does come and if they negative ends up being much greater than anticipated.


I do agree that the action since 13.8k can be interpreted as  bullish (although I'm presenting the possible alternative as well).

The level of 13.8k is very important, because, as it was reached in an exponential spike, it forms very strong overhead resistance.  A decisive breach of 13.8  is less likely in the short term now.


It seems that I remain a bit more uncertain about whether resistance at $13.8 is either building up or if it really anything much to worry about.  

I am hardly at all rattled by either the correction down to $9,614 nor the fact that the price is bouncing around between $10k and $13k, and even if there are several unsuccessful attempts for the price to get above $13k, I consider such lack of success to be a BIG so fucking what?  In other words, the 30% correction down to $9,614 was well within a kind of range of reasonableness, and even 50% corrections are NOT necessarily bearish, when we have had a break out above $4,200 that occurred more than 3 months ago, and ain't even close to being revisited, at least up until now.

So, I have some difficulties extracting bearish scenarios out of seemingly normal consolidation that remains more than 2x higher than  our $4,200 break out point, and that is likely part of the reason that I mentioned that we should discuss this bearish matter if prices break below $7k, and before then, I am going to remain mostly jubilant - even though I have also reestablished my buy orders down to mid $2,xxx, just in case, on scenarios that I don't consider to be too likely, even though I remain financially prepared for such (and financial preparedness does help to bolster psychological preparations, too.. .even while I am likely going to start to feel concern if prices go back below $5k or even $6k, which I would surely prefer not to happen in this cycle).


However, if price did move strongly above that , it would indeed be the super-bullish signal.

I do tend to think that it could take several weeks to get back above $13,8k, but who knows?  Like I said, I think that it is pretty bullish from the mere fact that we are not going back below $9.6k and you are not going to get me to be too concerned in regards to my overall bullish sentiments until at minimum we start to approach $7k..

I am attempting (maybe not succeeding)  to present a view which is neither bullish nor bearish.  The market is neither of those until proven/confirmed.

I don't know about that.  The market seems pretty damned bullish to me.

There is howard zinn expression that seems aprobo for this situation:  "you cannot stay neutral on a moving train."  

Yeah, lots of us like to present ourselves as neutral, but really sometimes neutrality does not really seem to fit very well, and a stance needs to be taken, which still might be neutral, but it is accepting and recognizing the more telling facts and logic.. which currently seems to be that we are currently in a bull market, until proven otherwise or the facts actually change. Accept, Majormax, and you will thank me later.   Wink Wink     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

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Still a manic miner
Nobody saw the sudden pump to $12k? Everybody fell asleep? The green dildo was pretty massive. Observing $11930 moment, can breach $12k at any moment.



After this cross it is almost impossible to go back now. Maybe a dip can happen for a very short time but it will jump back almost instantly before you even transfer your funds and hit the buy button. Even if you have the funds ready, it is probably still going to happen too fast.

Now its when the newbs that SODL 90% of their position start to buy again..

They dont quite understand the art of HODLing.
legendary
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Nobody saw the sudden pump to $12k? Everybody fell asleep? The green dildo was pretty massive. Observing $11930 moment, can breach $12k at any moment.



After this cross it is almost impossible to go back now. Maybe a dip can happen for a very short time but it will jump back almost instantly before you even transfer your funds and hit the buy button. Even if you have the funds ready, it is probably still going to happen too fast.
legendary
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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it
Crossposting from Monero thread as I think you guys might get a chuckle. Smiley


As is a banknote. A belief that the promise to pay bearer will be honoured



I let a neighbor borrow 200 bucks once and he gave me a check. Later on when i stopped at his bank (Citizens) they tried to charge me 5 bucks to cash it! I was dumbfounded and told them that check was their word! They said if I had an account there would be no charge and I told her thats not the point, the point is I accepted the check as their word it was good and that i am not going to pay for the honor of giving an interest free loan to their customer. Eventually I opened an account deposited the check and left one dollar in the account so they can send me statements every month. Whats worse is the teller wouldn't open an account for me for the sole purpose of avoiding their fees so I had to call her manager over and the manager said open the account immediately and that went right up that tellers ass. Cheesy


Posting guild lines:
 Please lets keep this thread clean. ( I will be removing any off topic posts )
 Do not post random comments on this thread, unless it is directly related to the last wall update [...]

What happened to this thread? It's like a magnet for shitposting as the least successful self-moderated threads on this forum.
Congrats for getting it to no.1 though  Wink I like that there's a 99.98% chance this post won't get deleted  Grin

Tempted to delete for lulz

Good one but no-one would ever know unless you delete it and quote it. Smiley


Here's another way in which the WO thread is special: it has its own special post reporting guidelines... How many other threads can say that???



Can't report posts for being off-topic or trolling, but you sure can report them for ban evasion!

I personally like the report for ON-Topicness being pointed out. Grin
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