Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion - page 9910.

HairyMaclairy

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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist

Quote from: wwzsocki on July 04, 2019, 05:02:18 AM

The Crypto Fear & Greed Index jumped in last month from 27 which means FEAR, to 79 showing on Extreme Greed. This is good in my opinion because more greed equals more buying.

If you want to check Crypto Fear & Greed Over Time go to: https://alternative.me/crypto/fear-and-greed-index/.

It’s intended as a contrarian indicator...

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: criptix on July 01, 2019, 11:43:30 PM

My order at 9800 got filled

Lets see where it bottoms...

Congrats!

HAH, and right after this post I read a ton of bears coming out of the woodwork yelling 8k. LOL

Quote from: vroom on July 02, 2019, 05:10:26 AM

new people posting on WO predicting doom and bear love, this can only mean one thing. we are going up and not down

HAH, one correct post in the lot.

I saw a lot of Battered wife syndrome in those last posts.

These dumps are just shaking the Trees.

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 04, 2019, 12:18:51 PM

Quote from: d_eddie on July 03, 2019, 08:23:48 PM

(edited for oneness, other post deleted)

Quote from: jojo69 on July 03, 2019, 03:59:28 PM

"ill suited to ordinary consumers"

translation; profits like these are only for the elites

Don't you have fields to plow peasant? Tax time is coming up.

While I would agree at heart, consider say aunt bertha scammed into unbearable risk by her broker, who actually didn't bother to explain and maybe used that as a hedge.

I'm no ordinary consumer, though. I knew about shit when the 'elites' hadn't even heard of what we may call the underlying. If admission to the club is a fair process, with my mind I would agree for the sake of auntie.

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 03, 2019, 03:54:41 PM

In all fairness, try being the poor sucker journalist that has to write sensibly about Arsenal’s latest match, the Spratly islands, methamphetamine addiction in Bromley, the new All-New Ford Kuga, whisky tasting and Bitcoin. And then be judged by experts in each area.

Shit is hard yo.

Actually, the piece itself was good enough to make me ask a specific question expecting a detailed reply - namely, what is meant by "general public". We aren't all Bertha.

Besides, titles are usually not the writer's fault.

This is the general public - or at least the ones that go crying to the politicians Not your keys.

https://abc.net.au/news/2019-07-04/bitcoin-investment-scam-steals-thousands-from-canberra-couple/11271742

Well ain't that a kick in the ASS!

Funny I just posted about holding your keys in another thread.

HairyMaclairy

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Degenerate bull hatter & Bitcoin monotheist

Quote from: d_eddie on July 03, 2019, 08:23:48 PM

(edited for oneness, other post deleted)

Quote from: jojo69 on July 03, 2019, 03:59:28 PM

"ill suited to ordinary consumers"

translation; profits like these are only for the elites

Don't you have fields to plow peasant? Tax time is coming up.

While I would agree at heart, consider say aunt bertha scammed into unbearable risk by her broker, who actually didn't bother to explain and maybe used that as a hedge.

I'm no ordinary consumer, though. I knew about shit when the 'elites' hadn't even heard of what we may call the underlying. If admission to the club is a fair process, with my mind I would agree for the sake of auntie.

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 03, 2019, 03:54:41 PM

In all fairness, try being the poor sucker journalist that has to write sensibly about Arsenal’s latest match, the Spratly islands, methamphetamine addiction in Bromley, the new All-New Ford Kuga, whisky tasting and Bitcoin. And then be judged by experts in each area.

Shit is hard yo.

Actually, the piece itself was good enough to make me ask a specific question expecting a detailed reply - namely, what is meant by "general public". We aren't all Bertha.

Besides, titles are usually not the writer's fault.

This is the general public - or at least the ones that go crying to the politicians Not your keys.

https://abc.net.au/news/2019-07-04/bitcoin-investment-scam-steals-thousands-from-canberra-couple/11271742

vroom

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a Cray can run an endless loop in under 4 hours

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 04, 2019, 11:53:46 AM

Off topic but wondering if any of you guys who run a node have this in your debug logs?

"warning='## of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'’

My latest batch of seeing it is from height=583656 to the latest block.

I just want to know if everybody else is seeing this?
I get it every couple of days lately.

yes, I see this too in my log and I googled for the reason a few months ago. iirc these are bcash, bsv and other invalid blocks. it's ok and can be ignored. it actually shows that nodes are working fine and are declining wrong blocks.

d_eddie

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on July 04, 2019, 11:53:46 AM

Off topic but wondering if any of you guys who run a node have this in your debug logs?

"warning='## of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'’

My latest batch of seeing it is from height=583656 to the latest block.

I just want to know if everybody else is seeing this?
I get it every couple of days lately.

I do have a few, yes. Last is 32 out of 100, just for the sake of comparison.
I wouldn't even have noticed without your heads up.

LFC_Bitcoin

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Off topic but wondering if any of you guys who run a node have this in your debug logs?

"warning='## of last 100 blocks have unexpected version'’

My latest batch of seeing it is from height=583656 to the latest block.

I just want to know if everybody else is seeing this?
I get it every couple of days lately.

fillippone

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Fully fledged Merit Cycler - Golden Feather 22-23

Quote from: JSRAW on July 01, 2019, 09:32:34 PM

5. fillippone's ikea post and lambo wish (+1 to Italian stallion Cheesy

)

1. Loyce -fillippone - data = love triangle

Being called twice on WO report, albeit for low effort posts.
Thank you JSRAW, my life is one step closer to complete!

vroom

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a Cray can run an endless loop in under 4 hours

Quote from: Hueristic on July 04, 2019, 11:27:27 AM

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 04, 2019, 11:22:08 AM

XRP SOON ABOVE 60$ ?!

My ass LOL

XRP total supply = 99,991,588,101

$60 each XRP means $5,999,495,286,060

Do they have any idea about what they talk?

No, but the retards that buy that shit have even less of a clue.

BitcoinGirl.Club

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Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o

Quote from: Hueristic on July 04, 2019, 11:27:27 AM

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 04, 2019, 11:22:08 AM

XRP SOON ABOVE 60$ ?!

My ass LOL

XRP total supply = 99,991,588,101

$60 each XRP means $5,999,495,286,060

Do they have any idea about what they talk?

No, but the retards that buy that shit have even less of a clue.

Make sense and that's why they buy 🤪

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: HairyMaclairy on July 01, 2019, 09:36:14 PM

Do you agree that Trump should be elected president for life?

If that life ends before the next election!

Quote from: Syke on July 01, 2019, 10:03:45 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Bitcoin has a lot of people who are small government and want the people to be able to control their funds. That is a conservative and right wing view. Now why would you want crypto to succeed if you're a liberal and want government control in everything? It doesn't make sense.

Small government conservatives are actually very rare in the last few decades.

Don't state facts, its what people are told to believe that matters. Duh Tongue

JayJuanGee

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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: Hueristic on July 04, 2019, 10:56:31 AM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 01, 2019, 09:19:59 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on July 01, 2019, 08:16:30 PM

Quote from: eddie13 on July 01, 2019, 01:48:06 PM

Coinbase depth looking oversold

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: ivomm on July 01, 2019, 04:16:18 PM

This "correction" starts to smell fishy to me. It all started with 800 BTC sell on CB that caused the crash from 13880. There is something suspicious in the way the sells are executed in CB in the last few days. Each time Bitstamp shows buying activity, some fat sell order on CB brings down the price with 3-4%. It looks as if some whale was in a hurry to unload tens of thousands of bitcoins in 11-13K area. And of course the weak hands follow with their panic sells. It may as well be a coordinated bears effort to look like the 2018 long and nasty crashes, but it happens too quickly. They may try to produce an awful chart, so that trolls will explain how Bitcoin is doomed. But at the same time they hope to cheat the n00bs to sell their precious coins before the halving. If some trolls are telling us that Bitcoin won't go beyond the ATH, they are lying. They know it as much as we do!

Fuck Coinbase, those pieces of shit had the nerve to send me a questionnaire the other day after I started the KYC then said fuck that when I saw the questions they ask.

The Questionnaire asked "on a 0 to 10 scale what is the chance you would recommend coinbase to your friends. I of course chose 0 (or maybe it was one I forget already) and then it asked why and I wrote "My forefathers gave their lives ensuring the liberties of the American people from tyranny and you are doing everything you can to undo their work. FUCK YOU".

I don't see what would be the point to burn bridges. If you have an account, and now you no longer want an account, is that what you were doing? In my book, it's usually preferable to attempt to keep your options open.

My coinbase account has been around forever and I have never done the KYC they now require, comprehende?

I even understood that point before your latest clarification post. Go figure?

In other words, to me it sounds like you are both burning bridges and acting out with way too many emotion regarding such situation, but hey, that's your choice, of course. Do what you like. Tongue

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: fillippone on July 04, 2019, 10:39:55 AM

Quote from: d_eddie on July 04, 2019, 10:33:06 AM

Quote from: fillippone on July 04, 2019, 10:21:49 AM

Quote from: d_eddie on July 04, 2019, 10:14:03 AM

Quote from: fillippone on July 04, 2019, 10:10:58 AM

Quote from: d_eddie on July 04, 2019, 10:02:44 AM

Indeed if settling in bitcoin, it is necessary that both parts hold as much physical bitcoin as necessary. Otherwise, with sufficient volatility, insolvency will ensue. That's one of the reasons I think in-kind ETFs and derivatives are medium term bullish AF.

Not necessary the case.
The future can be settled in bitcoin.
Daily margining can be done with cash.
In case of Bakkt futures are only 1 day forward, so marining or variation not a problem.
Not sure about Erisx, couldn't find product specifications.
Not so bearish on EFT or other BTC-related Derivatives then.

All right, then edit my previous response: maybe not "hold as much physical btc", but "be ready to buy, and actually buy if necessary, as much physical btc as necessary, at whatever price it takes (market buy)", which is nearly the same thing even if collateral is posted as fiat (which I doubt anyway).

Does this sound right?

Yes, but it's like any other future.
No difference.

Like any other future settled in kind, which is uncommon for most futures. This would lead to actual btc changing hands. I thinks it matters and does make a definite difference.

Commodity future (closest to BTC future, I think) are physically settled futures.

Quote

So the difference might be or in the liquidity of the underlying or in an unfair bias of the regulators (see above message about CXBTF)

Ah! You speak from a regulatory standpoint? I was looking more at the possible effects on the btc market.

Oh , sorry, Yes, this clarifies misunderstandings. Yes.
I guess futures are net positive on BTC market as gates for institutional money, not because futures per se.

Futures that don't settle in BTC are a scam as they don't reflect the iliquidity of the market or an asset that becomes rarer over time for that matter. Artificially adding liquidity does not help holders.

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on July 04, 2019, 11:22:08 AM

XRP SOON ABOVE 60$ ?!

My ass LOL

XRP total supply = 99,991,588,101

$60 each XRP means $5,999,495,286,060

Do they have any idea about what they talk?

No, but the retards that buy that shit have even less of a clue.

BitcoinGirl.Club

legendary

Activity: 2800

Merit: 2736

Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o

XRP SOON ABOVE 60$ ?!

My ass LOL

XRP total supply = 99,991,588,101

$60 each XRP means $5,999,495,286,060

Do they have any idea about what they talk?

Hueristic

legendary

Activity: 3836

Merit: 4969

Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: VB1001 on July 04, 2019, 10:50:59 AM

Bitcoin CME Futures’ price action plays a key role in predicting spot prices for BTC

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Bitcoin was built as a tool that would provide respite from fiat, but it is also being used as a speculative asset for trading. Institutions like CME, CBOE, Grayscale, etc have developed products based on Bitcoin’s price movements for investors who do not want to risk it.

Bitcoin CME Futures has been gaining a lot of traction and is being used as a tool to help traders understand the correlation between Bitcoin spot prices and futures markets.

https://ambcrypto.com/bitcoin-cme-futures-price-action-plays-a-key-role-in-predicting-spot-prices-for-btc/

Curious the relationship as the gaps fill.

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BitcoinGirl.Club

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Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o

So most of us know that we are going to very close to $14k soon?

JayJuanGee

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Self-Custody is a right. Say no to"Non-custodial"

Quote from: VB1001 on July 04, 2019, 09:34:32 AM

Pompliano 75% Confident Bitcoin Price is $100,000 by End of 2021

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Anthony “Pomp” Pompliano — co-founder of crypto asset management firm Morgan Creek Digital Assets — predicts bitcoin (BTC) will hit $100,000 by the end of 2021.

https://cointelegraph.com/news/pompliano-75-confident-bitcoin-price-is-100-000-by-end-of-2021

https://twitter.com/APompliano/status/1146707848279150592

Assigning 75% confidence to that level would put bitcoin's present value a whole hell of a lot higher, for someone like that, and it could lead to very foolish behaviors, perhaps?

It is a pretty high allocation of probabilities, and seemingly overly exuberant, from my view.

On the other hand, if you have those levels of confidence, but you still act prudently with your money, then you actions seem to be a bit out of line with your beliefs even if you have that kind of expectation that the value of your stash is going to go up more than 8x in 2 years. Could be that your other behaviors become less rash, too, because you kind of take it for granted that you are going to be around 8x richer in a bit more than 2 years...?

Hueristic

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: JSRAW on July 01, 2019, 09:32:34 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on July 01, 2019, 08:52:05 PM

^^^--- Damn I'm far behind, I need to find a JSRAW recap/ Cheesy

^ sorry bro i skipped last week posts as well because i was traveling, almost 90+ page Cheesy

But i did notice some old interesting posts. you were active during that time, i guess?

BTC pump

1. lots of memes, i mean alooooot!!
2. Mic shooting at the wall with pee's pic.( Meanwhile Kenzawak having Breakfast)
3. serveria.com suggest 100K party venue and he seems to be excited when mic post pee's pic.
4. Mr gembitz pops up
5. fillippone's ikea post and lambo wish (+1 to Italian stallion )
6. @everyone has interesting story - sold bitcoin for this -that- ( not me i am new)
7. Infofront locks the WO, every one panics- V8 opens new thread- Theymos saves the day
8. Searing,JoJo, JJG : Tulip Traiangle
9. Bob+Rick+ranch = happy family
10. JJG still offtopic -talking about BTC- ( Dude reads every post, i must say)
11. Hueristic struggling to keep up with WO
12. long time lurkers on the floor - Welcome Ladies-
13. r0ach's wisdom about Multiculturalism. ( on funny note " ladies When you go brown, other colors let you down "
14. kenzawak, LFC_Bitcoin, Pamoldar = 44,33,37
15. JimboToronto : Consistent with his post (Good morning-observing BTC in CAD )
16. MrFreeRoMan got Banned sadly
17. Biodom's approach to Child upbringing - Very Asian-Indian in good way-
18. nutildah & micman - HANGOVER 4 ( no comment on outcome Cheesy

)
19. Gysur is back
20 Bromance inbetween Hueristic and JJG
~~21. r0ach's point of view on diet-exercise ( i agree)~~
22. 2 kids talking about age then Legends comes.
23. Yes, Legend has a name "JimboToronto"
24. jbreher is travelling i suppose?
25. gentlemand says and i quote "The rich stay rich by acting poor. The poor stay poor by acting rich." well said sir!! now please give Kohinoor back Cheesy

26. JJG's travel plans.
27. Arriemoller still reading book and not updating anyone.

Log till page 24311

Then I jump directly at page 24407

1. Loyse -fillippone - data = love traingle
2. Dont know who Stolfi is?
~~3. realr0ach being creative with name calling~~
4. Btc prediction q2 over = 11,262 (winner didn't claim the price money, s/he/it forget his alt account's PW Cheesy

)
5. Kenzawak says and i quote "Fuck is my favorite English word." wish i can translate this word in Hindi,punjabi,urdu
6. Failed haiku attempt here and there.
7. Cricket - England wins, India lost.
8. nutildah says " fuck, fucked up my fuck table" humping table? dont know
9. proudhon - hon is not proud-
10. oh, JJG talking to himself here sorry bhai
11. Banter inbetween Gyrsur, JJG and Mic
12. BTCDump is always manipulation and uptrend is organic growth Cheesy

13. Sex robots replacing Men by 2050

In short, can't help much with last week backlog. sorry Cry

thanks man, I completely missed all the Bolded, and the strikeout doesn't matter!

Thats funny somone tried to cheat and use an Alt account and forgot the PW. Karma baby.

BitcoinGirl.Club

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Activity: 2800

Merit: 2736

Farewell LEO: o_e_l_e_o

Good afternoon. We are moving sideways and I am happy with that.

Observing @ $11,780

Hueristic

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Activity: 3836

Merit: 4969

Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 01, 2019, 09:19:59 PM

Quote from: Hueristic on July 01, 2019, 08:16:30 PM

Quote from: eddie13 on July 01, 2019, 01:48:06 PM

Coinbase depth looking oversold

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: ivomm on July 01, 2019, 04:16:18 PM

This "correction" starts to smell fishy to me. It all started with 800 BTC sell on CB that caused the crash from 13880. There is something suspicious in the way the sells are executed in CB in the last few days. Each time Bitstamp shows buying activity, some fat sell order on CB brings down the price with 3-4%. It looks as if some whale was in a hurry to unload tens of thousands of bitcoins in 11-13K area. And of course the weak hands follow with their panic sells. It may as well be a coordinated bears effort to look like the 2018 long and nasty crashes, but it happens too quickly. They may try to produce an awful chart, so that trolls will explain how Bitcoin is doomed. But at the same time they hope to cheat the n00bs to sell their precious coins before the halving. If some trolls are telling us that Bitcoin won't go beyond the ATH, they are lying. They know it as much as we do!

Fuck Coinbase, those pieces of shit had the nerve to send me a questionnaire the other day after I started the KYC then said fuck that when I saw the questions they ask.

The Questionnaire asked "on a 0 to 10 scale what is the chance you would recommend coinbase to your friends. I of course chose 0 (or maybe it was one I forget already) and then it asked why and I wrote "My forefathers gave their lives ensuring the liberties of the American people from tyranny and you are doing everything you can to undo their work. FUCK YOU".

I don't see what would be the point to burn bridges. If you have an account, and now you no longer want an account, is that what you were doing? In my book, it's usually preferable to attempt to keep your options open.

My coinbase account has been around forever and I have never done the KYC they now require, comprehende?

VB1001

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Bitcoin CME Futures’ price action plays a key role in predicting spot prices for BTC

Quote

Bitcoin was built as a tool that would provide respite from fiat, but it is also being used as a speculative asset for trading. Institutions like CME, CBOE, Grayscale, etc have developed products based on Bitcoin’s price movements for investors who do not want to risk it.

Bitcoin CME Futures has been gaining a lot of traction and is being used as a tool to help traders understand the correlation between Bitcoin spot prices and futures markets.

https://ambcrypto.com/bitcoin-cme-futures-price-action-plays-a-key-role-in-predicting-spot-prices-for-btc/

Curious the relationship as the gaps fill.

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